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Chiang Mai splutters: But "Curtain of Water" protects tourists as polluted city continues among world's worst

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7 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Try baking a egg or do anything near the sensor, you will soon see 300+ levels.
You have to look at multiple sensors, as well look at the actual PM levels, not air quality alone. Inside VS Outside (with AC) makes a huge difference already.

My sensor measures HCHO, TVOC, eCO 2 & PM 2.5, all levels are reading low, all doors and windows are open, 3 fans running, and no A/C, that is only used in the bedroom at night 🙂 

 

Mind you it is a cheap piece of Chinese plastic papp, so make of that what you will 🙂 

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3 hours ago, canthai55 said:

And what - pray tell - is your solution for the air pollution which comes into Thailand from other countries ?

Invasion ? A stern "Don't do that ! "

Most air pollution is invasive from neighboring countries.

There is no simple answer ...

Odd that when you visit the 'neighbouring countries' the air's fine in comparison.

Air pollution .... something no Thai would ever do!

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15 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Actually, most first time travellers do not care about it at all, they often do not even know how bad it is. Hanoi is the perfect example for that.
Neither do the Chinese and Indians care as they are used to it back home... Little stimulus to make a effective change.

 

The tourism crisis does not relate to the air pollution, it might relate to retirees and expats or locals but that would be it. 
The high exchange rate and negative events in Thailand do ruin tourism, as well over priced shops and services.

Also funny somehow that the air quality has been bad for a decade during this time,
nobody cared but since everyone got the Greta Syndrome, masks are mandatory and people scream to think they will die.

oh really

 

so is polluted toxic air and wearing a face mask "a thing" people don't care about ?

 

are you serious ?

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16 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

Not wanting to steal Chiang Mai's thunder but I have just checked my AirVisual app on my phone and the reading for Tara Pattana International school ( Pattaya) which is only 500 meters or so from my village is currently 138, strangely, the stand alone machine sitting in my lounge is only reading 33, we are in the middle of the village and away from the road, I have a feeling that the school sensor maybe close to the road which is very busy and there also some Thai food stalls not far away so plenty of pollutants in the area.

Your machine is probably giving the pm2.5 concentration.  Airvisual app shows AQI.  Not the same.  Some of the chinese sensors people buy also show aqi, but don't use the international standard conversion.

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5 minutes ago, smedly said:

oh really

 

so is polluted toxic air and wearing a face mask "a thing" people don't care about ?

 

are you serious ?

Yes I am serious and speaking the truth. Nobody ever cared until last year was the first time with big big news. 
Tourists care even less as they only visit for X days or a week, Chinese and Indians are used to it.

Hanoi is bad almost any day of the year yet it is booming with tourists, didn't see anyone wearing masks for that except locals.
It is simply a Greta syndrome to now all panic and complain, even that is justified, doesn't change what I said.

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2 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Chinese and Indians are used to it.

that might be true - from one dirty polluted dump to another

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5 minutes ago, smedly said:

that might be true - from one dirty polluted dump to another

I personally used to live in BKK first and most years in TH and always visited CM for a few days at the time, weekends often too. 
I never really knew how bad it was neither cared or checked it at all. I can imagine the same for tourists.

Similar to BKK government crying when it happens in BKK but not seeming to be aware of CM.

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4 minutes ago, Fore Man said:

I’ve been here 16 years and don’t recall complaining or worrying over poor air quality until around 2016.  

TV members, including myself, have been complaining about smoke pollution for years in the Chiang Mai forum.  

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6 minutes ago, Fore Man said:

when one sees stupid reactions such as operating large water cannons to combat pollution, instead of invoking strong preventive measures including deploying the Army and police into the area to incarcerate anyone caught burning.  

Hehe true that, there is helicopters flying for no good reason all day around CM, let them use those to photograph burners or drop water on fires instead.
Now you pass the ping bridge and get a free spray dose of dirty water that could also make you sick.

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Like every years,  I rented a house in the south, leaving my house in Chiang Mai until the rainy days arrive and these crazy people stop to burn their own land, but this time it was different, the Doctor gave me serious advice. I will come back in may.
 

See you later, Chiang Mai ! 

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4 hours ago, Farangwithaplan said:

Well at least someone is telling fibs about Pak Kret's / Chaeng Wattana's air today. I know it is not Chaing Mai, but I thought it was worth noting the vast differences in readings.

 

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Pak Kret - Air4Thai.JPG

The official PM 2.5 readings as posted by the Pluakdaeng ( close to Sattahip ) District Health Office since the new Year have been higher than these readings every day.

Many days the reading is close to 150 or more

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" Curtain of Water "

Is that the same as P*****g into the wind.

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The "curtain of water" is right up there with using ship propellers to speed up draining flooded rivers.

 

Never a shortage of mind boggling nonsense!

 

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