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I am an Engineer with a work permit. If I like to organize some private classes over weekend do I still need another work permit to teach ?

Appreciate all seniors for this relevant advise.

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If it's not a forbidden occupation according to labour law, then you are good to go, if we can accept the recent announcement by the relevant government department.

 

However, that may have been changed or recinded unknownst to us, so it might be illegal. Who knows! It's all up in the air and is unclear intentionally. 🙂

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15 hours ago, thequietman said:

If it's not a forbidden occupation according to labour law, then you are good to go, if we can accept the recent announcement by the relevant government department.

 

However, that may have been changed or recinded unknownst to us, so it might be illegal. Who knows! It's all up in the air and is unclear intentionally. 🙂

I suspect that the OP is asking, 'if I already have a work permit (WP) for my main job, do I need another WP for my second job / for other work?

 

Thai WPs just don't work like that, it's specific to the type of work stated on the work permit, and whilst your employed by the employer who gave you a contract of employment.

 

As already mentioned 'what does it say on the WP in regard to the type of work?' If it's engineering then you don't have permission to work for anything else.

 

Paid or unpaid?

 

- Paid - breaking the law because you don't have a WP for that type of work.

- Unpaid - breaking the law because you don't have a WP permit for that type of work, and if caught and you try to tell Immigration officers 'it's voluntary no charge / no income' then they won't believe you.  

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Is painting my house, or my wife has a shop so say doing a plumbing job for her to be classed as a job a thai could do and therefor against the rules.

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2 minutes ago, LivinLOS said:

Painting your house.. Despite someone getting shaken down on Phuket for this.. No, its your home and you can do your own maintenance work. 

A plumbing job at a Thais business, even unpaid, much more on or over the line in terms of how its looked at. Its not your shop, your 'engaged in a profession' etc 

My thoughts, but the line could be crossed as my home is in my wife's name, what do you think?  but of course a quick check at the IO office may be prudent.

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3 minutes ago, Almer said:

My thoughts, but the line could be crossed as my home is in my wife's name, what do you think?  but of course a quick check at the IO office may be prudent.

Check with the IO ... Maybe someone at the IO have kids who could benefit from some English teaching ? Might be useful to keep everyone happy 🙂

 

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If you go to a bureaucrat asking for permission or to ask if you need more paperwork, 99 times out of 100 the answer will be "yes."

It's job security for them.  Sometimes, of course, you just have to do the paperwork and pay the fees but for painting your own house or fixing a leaky pipe for your wife?!?

In that situation I wouldn't stick my head in the lion's mouth and go asking "permission".  If you can not work on your own family's property doing regular husband-duty style maintenance then it's time to get the heck out of Dodge.  

I feel like this tropical paradise is slowly sucking the guts out of me since I am required to be willing to be treated here in a manner that I wouldn't tolerate at home. I like it here but I don't feel allowed to think of Thailand as really home.  

 

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5 hours ago, scorecard said:

I suspect that the OP is asking, 'if I already have a work permit (WP) for my main job, do I need another WP for my second job / for other work?

 

Thai WPs just don't work like that, it's specific to the type of work stated on the work permit, and whilst your employed by the employer who gave you a contract of employment.

 

As already mentioned 'what does it say on the WP in regard to the type of work?' If it's engineering then you don't have permission to work for anything else.

 

Paid or unpaid?

 

- Paid - breaking the law because you don't have a WP for that type of work.

- Unpaid - breaking the law because you don't have a WP permit for that type of work, and if caught and you try to tell Immigration officers 'it's voluntary no charge / no income' then they won't believe you.  

"Thai WPs just don't work like that, it's specific to the type of work stated on the work permit"

The Ministry of Labour changed the way a thai wp works in 2018. It's not work specific as it used to be. Now a wp covers a wider type of work. 

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3 hours ago, rvaviator said:

Check with the IO ... Maybe someone at the IO have kids who could benefit from some English teaching ? Might be useful to keep everyone happy 🙂

 

Why would you check with immigration? they don't issue work permits.

Department of Labour might be a better place to ask.

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6 minutes ago, emptypockets said:

Why would you check with immigration? they don't issue work permits.

Department of Labour might be a better place to ask.

Thank you for the replies. It make sense at the Dept of Labour where they issue work permit. 

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I just checked the 'prohibited jobs for foreigners in Thailand'

Just wondering about 'Professional civil engineering concerning design and calculation, systemization, analysis, planning, testing, construction supervision, or consulting services, excluding work requiring specialized techniques.'

 

Shouldn't these type of jobs (not to mention electricians) be prohibited for Thais?

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10 hours ago, scorecard said:

you try to tell Immigration officers 'it's voluntary no charge / no income' then they won't believe you.  

Not a question of being believed. Performing work for which you are unpaid can still require a work permit. You could still be doing something that would otherwise provide paid employment for a Thai citizen.

 

Immigration officers don't issue work permits.

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