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TM28: Thai immigration scraps requirement for foreigners to report when they stay away from home for 24 hours

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5 minutes ago, Number 6 said:

This is a totally false assumption made by you and the author of the article.

 

Someone got smart and realized that many like myself were boycotting travel within Thailand unless and until this stupid legal requirement was lifted.

 

Foreigners petitioning the Thai government did exactly nothing. It was realized that money that was right under foot, tourist dollars were being lost.

 

The petition was crudely written and riddled with grammatical errors. It was shockingly poorly written. All those signed evidently semi literate.

The petition was for the TM.30 which is still active.

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On 2/20/2020 at 5:21 PM, Chicken George said:

So.. No more reporting TM30. Which our local IO insisted I do even for one night away from my permanent address? 

Incorrect, still required to do TM 30, the change affects TM 28. As understand from TV article, if away from main address more than 24 hrs , required to submit TM30. 

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3 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

The petition was for the TM.30 which is still active.

Yes, I edited my post quickly but you'd already captured my post.

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On 2/20/2020 at 6:00 PM, Moonlover said:

Is this not official enough for you then?

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/read?content_id=5e468147cf638702b11f9cb9

Nothing will ever be official for me as far as immigration are concerned, I would not trust them as far as I could throw them, I can never see IOs all having the same rules, not ever.

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In reference to 6.15 (attached)

 

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Under patronage meaning to be supported, in regards to being a spouse does this mean you are exempt only if you are not the main supporter as in the case with say a foreign woman marrying a Thai where the foreign woman's support reliance financially isn't required to get the NON-O visa as the husband is considered the patronage.

Does this make sense or am I getting confused here and or does this matter.

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The title of the article is misleading and will put anyone not fully versed in the intricacies of thai immigration law on the wrong foot, resulting in almost 250 posts - and still counting - of utterly confused Forum members.

TM28: Thai immigration scraps requirement for foreigners to report when they stay away from home for 24 hours

A short summary of what it means and - more important - whether it will affect you:

1. The TM28 form - to notify IO of a change of 'permanent residence' (move/relocation to a different address than your previous residence) has been scrapped and replaced by the TM27 form.

So in effect no change, as you still need to notify IO when moving/relocating to a different address, but now need a different form to do it. 

2. No changes re 90-day reporting.

3. No changes re TM30 reporting.

 

Wow, no changes at all > that's Big News!

A 'fart in a bottle' as they say in my home-country... 😁

 

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A post containing an inflammatory comment to another member has been removed. 

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I think none of these forms really fit into today’s technology world and also, I have no idea what purpose it serves for. Literally, today everyone is carrying biometric passports, which makes immigration jobs way more easier by just scanning them — all your information will pop up on the screen and tells when and which airport you entered through into this country’s debt. Also, the information is connected to their home countries and can track down their criminal records. The immigration just needs one machine that can scan foreigners’ passports and connect to the immigration system so they can check from the screen what are their statuses, traveling history, and where they reside, without filling a bundle of papers or being inquisitive.

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oh so sad ! I didn't even have time to submit one of these idiot forms ❤️

 

As most of you can see, it is very smart to be an obedient-scare-by-his-own-shadow-foreigner !

 

you are so funny to follow these stupid laws ! I have never and will never, I have too much pride to follow as a foreigner sheep...

 

 

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43 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

1. The TM28 form - to notify IO of a change of 'permanent residence' (move/relocation to a different address than your previous residence) has been scrapped and replaced by the TM27 form.

This is wrong.

This was never the purpose of the TM28 form

The form TM27 didn't replace TM28, the form TM27 existed at least since 1979, and it's purpose has never been changed.

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2 minutes ago, jackdd said:

This is wrong.

This was never the purpose of the TM28 form

The form TM27 didn't replace TM28, the form TM27 existed at least since 1979.

I am pretty sure you are correct, but does it matter? 

Basically nothing changed, except that they now clarified that a TM27 now has to be used for reporting a change of permanent address and that the TM28 has been made almost redundant.

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5 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Basically nothing changed

Correct

 

5 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

except that they now clarified that a TM27 now has to be used for reporting a change of permanent address

This was added by the person who wrote the OP, not by immigration, and is wrong.

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7 minutes ago, jackdd said:

Correct

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This was added by the person who wrote the OP, not by immigration, and is wrong.

Hi Jackdd > We are in agreement that basically nothing changed.

But what is the procedure then now when you move/relocate to a different address and need to notify IO?

The TM-27 title reads < see below >, so to me that looks like the form to use.

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They should scrap TM30 because we already report out address every 90 days anyway. 

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