Russia is trying to help Trump win in 2020, lawmakers warned

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Sujo said:

So that makes it ok? Are you ok with a foreign govt interfering in elections?

 

I am not sure with this new fangled thing called the internet it can ever be stopped. Who really changes their vote from dem to Trump because of Russian bots? 

[bendejo]

42 minutes ago, johnmcc6 said:

He is a shoe in to win

All his (and the GOP's) subterfuge to influence the election results is because they are so assured of their win.

[Chomper Higgot]

6 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I am not sure with this new fangled thing called the internet it can ever be stopped. Who really changes their vote from dem to Trump because of Russian bots? 

Paper ballots would negate the possibility of voting machines being hacked.

 

[Sujo]

5 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I am not sure with this new fangled thing called the internet it can ever be stopped. Who really changes their vote from dem to Trump because of Russian bots? 

Why do candidates advertise, its because it works. Why do they post on social media, because it works.

How would you know if what you heard and believe was from a russian bot.

 

Even trump said he gets his message out on social media.

 

Then again, some will be happy enough to vote the putin/trump ticket in november.

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Paper ballots would negate the possibility of voting machines being hacked.

 

 

[Cryingdick]

1 minute ago, Sujo said:

Why do candidates advertise, its because it works. Why do they post on social media, because it works.

How would you know if what you heard and believe was from a russian bot.

 

Even trump said he gets his message out on social media.

 

Then again, some will be happy enough to vote the putin/trump ticket in november.

 

That's social media buyer beware. We all know that. What if German hackers support whoever they would on the left? Like this isn't happening on both sides. The left is famous for trying to control the narrative. You speak out you get cancelled. 

 

I am not for government interference but I also know people who shouldn't internet like Warren have a "plan" for it. I am for freedom of speech. Not some sort of quasi-fascist overly moderated, generic internet which is becoming the theme of the day.

[amexpat]

You guys have too much time on your hands if you are arguing with Trump Cult members.

 

Nothing, nothing at all can penetrate the bubble. 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Completely out of context and before we learned of Russia’s interference in the last election, let alone Russia’s on going interference in the next.

 

You have an in answered question awaiting your attention:

 

Do you think foreign governments interfering in US elections is acceptable?

 

And I’ll add another:

 

Do believe it a duty of the President and his administration to protect US elections from foreign interference?

[Cryingdick]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Completely out of context and before we learned of Russia’s interference in the last election, let alone Russia’s on going interference in the next.

 

You have an in answered question awaiting your attention:

 

Do you think foreign governments interfering in US elections is acceptable?

 

And I’ll add another:

 

Do believe it a duty of the President and his administration to protect US elections from foreign interference?

 

I am not a fan of snow either but that won't stop it. It is happening on both sides. People need to think for themselves. How many dem votes do you think are going to go Trump's way because of some hackers in Siberia. It simply ludicrous. 

 

If you feel enough people in your voting block can be swayed by Facebook bots that's a problem for you and you alone. People who vote with conviction won't be swayed.

 

It's time to get used to how globalism is panning out if you want to win.

Edited February 22, 2020 by Cryingdick

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

That's social media buyer beware. We all know that. What if German hackers support whoever they would on the left? Like this isn't happening on both sides. The left is famous for trying to control the narrative. You speak out you get cancelled. 

 

I am not for government interference but I also know people who shouldn't internet like Warren have a "plan" for it. I am for freedom of speech. Not some sort of quasi-fascist overly moderated, generic internet which is becoming the theme of the day.

So you want it both ways. Freedom of speech but no interference.

 

If there is evidence of it for either repub or dems it should be known and dealt with.

 

The real national security issue is that trump had a hissy fit simply because there was a briefing about it. He wasnt angry that russia is doing it. He just doesnt want to hear it, so will do nothing.

 

Its a serious national security issie when intel agencies cannot provide briefings for fear of losing their job.

[Sujo]

15 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I am not a fan of snow either but that won't stop it. It is happening on both sides. People need to think for themselves. How many dem votes do you think are going to go Trump's way because of some hackers in Siberia. It simply ludicrous. 

 

If you feel enough people in your voting block can be swayed by Facebook bots that's a problem for you and you alone. People who vote with conviction won't be swayed.

 

It's time to get used to how globalism is panning out if you want to win.

So you are ok with a govt interfering and nothing should be done.

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

So you want it both ways. Freedom of speech but no interference.

 

If there is evidence of it for either repub or dems it should be known and dealt with.

 

The real national security issue is that trump had a hissy fit simply because there was a briefing about it. He wasnt angry that russia is doing it. He just doesnt want to hear it, so will do nothing.

 

Its a serious national security issie when intel agencies cannot provide briefings for fear of losing their job.

 

When accusations are just thrown out there will nilly you will never get to the bottom of it. I am for freedom of speech with no interference. I hold my freedom of speech higher than what laws would be passed to protect a bunch of frauds from being elected. 

 

Interestingly enough FB is asking to be regulated. Why? So they become one of the only approved channels of information and nobody else can get into the game. Phillip Morris at one point took this position for advertising cigs.

 

I would rather the Russians did whatever they have to do then have some idiot in Washington control individual expression online. So yes I don't want the first amendment to be interfered with.

[looking on the bright side]

Here it is again, the stupid story ''Russia did it''. 

I am not an American, nor am I taking sides. Just reading the news from all sides. I have understood that American people voted for Trump because they want a change. The smug  Amer. elite  ridicule the good, hardworking Amer. people who  are Trump voters .

When it comes to  a certain foreign interference ,undoubtedly it was the Steele dossier, an anti-Trump collection of fake information which was based on rumours, gossip and lies .  Steele is British  I think. And that 'incriminating' dossier, which is rubbish , was ordered by some Fuse group ( the name is something like that) , financed by the Clintons. The fake dossier was a base for Mueller to start an investigation against Trump. We know the result.

Whether you like Trump or not, take an objective and unbiased view of the situation: he hasn't committed any crime, otherwise he wouldn't have been in the W.H. office. He is even more popular now,he really gives a better impression than any Dem. candidate.

I do enjoy reading all about what is going on now in the US, it is better than  'House of cards' (netflix famous series )

[yogi100]

On 2/21/2020 at 12:48 AM, Sujo said:

How is that in any way relevant to the topic.

 

Trump throws his toys out of his pram simply because he is told the truth.

 

A real president would try and do something about it.

It's relevant because the American public knows that Trump is good for their prosperity and the future of their nation and won't be needing any help from Russia in re electing him.

[pmarlin]

Again the liberal news in america got it wrong or who leaked to them got it wrong. It is now being reported that it was Bernie Sanders they are trying to help not Trump. CNN has already backed off the  claim it was to help Trump.  Even the Security folks have denied they briefed that Russia was trying to help trump like it was reported.

[Chiphigh]

The media and their democrat handlers will never give up pushing this nonsense. 

 

They'll still claim that he was reelected by Russia. 

 

 

Idiots 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

 

55 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

Again the liberal news in america got it wrong or who leaked to them got it wrong. It is now being reported that it was Bernie Sanders they are trying to help not Trump. CNN has already backed off the  claim it was to help Trump.  Even the Security folks have denied they briefed that Russia was trying to help trump like it was reported.

 

Russia efforts to help Trump win re-election are not in conflict with promoting Sanders. In fact, if you wanted to help Trump, probably one of the best ways is to help Sanders win the Democratic nomination. Because for whatever merits Sanders may have, he's simply not going to be a presidential choice for the majority of Americans.  Sanders is nominated. Trump's re-elected. Russia job for Trump done!

 

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, yogi100 said:

It's relevant because the American public knows that Trump is good for their prosperity and the future of their nation and won't be needing any help from Russia in re electing him.

Then why is he doing nothing to stop it.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

14 minutes ago, Chiphigh said:

They'll still claim that he was reelected by Russia. 

 

Re 2016, the truth hurts...don't it....

 

But Trump wasn't elected BY Russia, since they can't vote here (at least not yet). He was elected BECAUSE of Russia... So Putin has his man in the White House.

 

[allen303]

On 2/21/2020 at 8:49 AM, Sujo said:

Because its a foreign govt doing it, not just joe public.

 

You are ok for a foreign govt to interfere in the election. Noted.

The question was why someone run to the NYT and leak a classified briefing the same day! The leakier got one minor thing wrong. The briefing stated they were trying to help sanders, not Trump, YOU THINK! They have already briefed Sanders on it and he has issued a statement in reference to the briefing, since sanders love the communist so much. Russia Russai Russai.

Edited February 22, 2020 by allen303

[Sujo]

59 minutes ago, pmarlin said:

Again the liberal news in america got it wrong or who leaked to them got it wrong. It is now being reported that it was Bernie Sanders they are trying to help not Trump. CNN has already backed off the  claim it was to help Trump.  Even the Security folks have denied they briefed that Russia was trying to help trump like it was reported.

Again you got it wrong. Intel briefed russia is helping trump.

It can also help bernie to win dem selection.

[Sujo]

1 minute ago, allen303 said:

The question was why someone run to the NYT and leak a classified briefing the same day! The leakier got one minor thing wrong. The briefing stated they were trying to help sanders, not Trump, YOU THINK! They have already briefed Sanders on it, since sanders love the communist so much. Russia Russai Russai.

No, repubs were getting angry when told it was to help trump.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

1 hour ago, pmarlin said:

Again the liberal news in america got it wrong or who leaked to them got it wrong. It is now being reported that it was Bernie Sanders they are trying to help not Trump. CNN has already backed off the  claim it was to help Trump.  Even the Security folks have denied they briefed that Russia was trying to help trump like it was reported.

 

And, no, CNN hasn't backed off the notion that all of this is Russia working on behalf of Trump:

 

Quote

Russian interference in the last presidential election -- which the US intelligence community believes was aimed at boosting Trump's candidacy and hurting his opponent, Hillary Clinton -- led to special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation. Part of the election interference included a Russian government-linked troll operation that sought to help Trump's candidacy and undercut that of Clinton in part by posting messages in support of Sanders.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/21/politics/bernie-sanders-russia-election-interference/index.html

 

Russia apparently has used this same exact Trump-Sanders playbook before.

 

 

Quote

 

Russia has tried to assist Sanders in the past.

In a February 2018 indictment of 13 Russian individuals and three companies alleged to have orchestrated the 2016 social media scheme, prosecutors charged that the group “engaged in operations primarily intended to communicate derogatory information about Hillary Clinton, to denigrate other candidates such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, and to support Bernie Sanders and then-candidate Donald Trump.”

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/bernie-sanders-briefed-by-us-officials-that-russia-is-trying-to-help-his-presidential-campaign/2020/02/21/5ad396a6-54bd-11ea-929a-64efa7482a77_story.html

 

Edited February 22, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[WalkingOrders]

Election meddling by the Intelligence Apparatus of the USA, and media lackeys once again trying to rig an election. Frightening

 

 

[WalkingOrders]

On 2/21/2020 at 6:16 AM, Somtamnication said:

Irrespective of who is president, I have always respected the office of the president. As an old soldier, you salute the rank not the person. But this guy is dangerous. What he is doing is creating a rollercoaster ride that will not stop and endanger national and world security.

 

He got into a hissy fit because the DNI head briefed Schiff, who is part of the intel committee? Am I missing something?

Yeah, you are missing that the Security apparatus of the USA, is trying to control power. They are trying to control US foreign policy in particular.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Yeah, you are missing that the Security apparatus of the USA, is trying to control power. They are trying to control US foreign policy in particular.

So now you’ve gone full tin foil hat.

[WalkingOrders]

On 2/21/2020 at 6:24 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Well it looks to me like the Democrats know full well who will win in November. As I said since 2016, it is time to stop the crushing negativity and run on some positive messages of how they can change Americans lives for the better. But no, the negativity deepened constantly up until their humiliation at the senate with the botched overthrow of Trump. So now they are in a real pickle. This is as good an excuse for losing as any I suppose. Just a bit boring listening to Russia, Russia, Russia for another 4 years.

Leftists now side with an entrenched bureaucracy that has become frightening. Why? They presume they are in control of it. The neocon/neoliberal Consensus refuses to let go. Trump is just the guy to expose them.

[allen303]

2 hours ago, Sujo said:

So you want it both ways. Freedom of speech but no interference.

 

If there is evidence of it for either repub or dems it should be known and dealt with.

 

The real national security issue is that trump had a hissy fit simply because there was a briefing about it. He wasnt angry that russia is doing it. He just doesnt want to hear it, so will do nothing.

 

Its a serious national security issie when intel agencies cannot provide briefings for fear of losing their job.

Its a serious national security issie when intel agencies cannot provide briefings for fear of losing their job.

 

No, it’s a serious national security issue when democrats run to the news media and leak classified information the same day they get it. Then lie about what was in the briefing.

As for Russia interference in 2016, you need to ask Obama why he did nothing since he was in charge then.

[blazes]

On 2/20/2020 at 4:08 PM, Puchaiyank said:

Intelligent sources "think" the Russians are planning to interfere in the 2020 Presidential elections.  

 

Wow!  What a revelation!  Who could have thought up such a clever scenario?  Probably a GS-15 or more desk jocky... ????

 

The swamp is still running the asylum!

 

"Think"??  No, the word was even more comical: it was "believe".
I believe, therefore, it is TRUE.

[blazes]

On 2/20/2020 at 5:49 PM, Sujo said:

Because its a foreign govt doing it, not just joe public.

 

You are ok for a foreign govt to interfere in the election. Noted.

 

I love that "noted"!!!!!

 

I thought the Stasi had disappeared with the Berlin Wall!!!