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7 minutes ago, Redline said:

???????????? you got the story down congratulations!  Are you looking for an ambassadorship?

What are trying to say? What point are you bringing here? Are you perhaps in agreement to degree on some points, not on others, would like to add, detract? Apply a different perspective? Correct me? What ? What do you bring?

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5 hours ago, gargamon said:

Obviously they want to help Bernie as they see him as the easiest candidate for Trump to beat. And the general populace is dumb enough to fall for it. It worked with them in 2016 when they got Trump elected the first time.

Go back to 2004.  The GOP wanted Kerry to get the Dem nomination because they had the playbook on him all set and ready.  Remember that famous sound that Howard Dean made when he found out he lost NH?  That was the sound a man getting politically eff-ed.  Rove et al ran Kerry ads in NH.  And then came the swift boats, all as planned.  But Kerry could have had a better campaign, and with a little more presence and charisma (or ANY charisma) he would have won. 

These days, from things that have slipped out from the likes of Bannon and DT it appears that they have the whole game plan on Bernie ready to go, probably laid it out 4years ago.  And it's gonna be ugly if Bernie gets the nom.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, bendejo said:

Go back to 2004.  The GOP wanted Kerry to get the Dem nomination because they had the playbook on him all set and ready.  Remember that famous sound that Howard Dean made when he found out he lost NH?  That was the sound a man getting politically eff-ed.  Rove et al ran Kerry ads in NH.  And then came the swift boats, all as planned.  But Kerry could have had a better campaign, and with a little more presence and charisma (or ANY charisma) he would have won. 

These days, from things that have slipped out from the likes of Bannon and DT it appears that they have the whole game plan on Bernie ready to go, probably laid it out 4years ago.  And it's gonna be ugly if Bernie gets the nom.

 

 

Bernie is a socialist  the game plan is obvious, just let Bernie speak for himself as a socialist

As for Kerry, he has the charisma of a dust covered rock. Doomed never to be President.

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17 minutes ago, bendejo said:

And it's gonna be ugly if Bernie gets the nom.

I think it's gonna get ugly, inside and outside, at the Democrat National Convention if Bernie does NOT get the nomination.

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42 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

What are trying to say? What point are you bringing here? Are you perhaps in agreement to degree on some points, not on others, would like to add, detract? Apply a different perspective? Correct me? What ? What do you bring?

You are towing the propaganda line, but I am shocked you moved on from Hillary-thank you ???????? 

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1 hour ago, WalkingOrders said:

Yeah Lets see 17 cases of FISA abuse, 2 failed attempts to impeach the potus. The top two heads of the FBI documented liars. It aint over, Durham is investigating exactly that, meanwhile they all take jobs at CNN, CNBC.....and you think you need a tinfoil hat to see it?

Funny how you obsess about other people lying, but not Trump.  Also funny that you find it suspicious that CNN and CNBC hire qualified, experienced experts.  Perhaps you should be concerned about the news sources that don't.

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13 minutes ago, rudi49jr said:

Have you ever heard of the troll factory in St. Petersburg? And I don't mean the one in Florida, but the one in Russia. I even believe they opened a second one, because there was so much work that one troll factory simply couldn't handle it all. Hundreds and hundreds of people work there around the clock, just to throw as much disinformation into the world as they can.

Source please.

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1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said:

As has been explained, they are helping both, and doing anything else they can to discredit the election.

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1 hour ago, WalkingOrders said:

Let me help, elites representing a worldview best explained by Clinton, Bush II , Obama, once called the two headed coin, is attempting to ensure no outsiders to this consensus gain control of power in the USA, while they oppose Trump, they likewise oppose Bernie. Which is not to say that Trump or Sanders are aligned, except in opposition to this consensus. Think; Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, Hillary Clinton, Obama...they all talk different but put forward the same <deleted> in a different envelope. 

 

Some people don't realize that anyone who opposes the consensus must be opposed. Msnbc, Cnn, etc are their mouthpieces. FOX had lost its neo-conservative center during later Obama years, but now they got Paul Ryan on the board and now they are re-shaping themselves again to Neocon central again.

 

People here look at policy outcomes sometimes but dont follow the whole story. People accuse Trump as big bully strongman. So strong, right. But fighting the battle of his life against a bureaucracy that rose to claim their power and have been trying to remove him.

 

Assisted by the professors out there who constantly post MSNBC links that quote absolute nobodies reporting from spoonfed anon intel sources. They are on the payroll. This is a first for me.

 

Yeah, a conspiracy, but not a theory.

Ok, then it's not a conspiracy theory, it is a conspiracy opinion, and a far-fetched one at that.

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38 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Factually, all kidding or side taking put to the side. The Democrats are in big trouble going into this election. 

 

Can you image poor Barack Obama has to come out and support a communist or an Billionaire oligarch Bloomberg known for far more racist comments then they ever could dream up on Trump. A man who used his money to break the DNC rules. Think about that.

 

Now when you respond, please try and do so without talking about Trump. You don't see the DNC, and Intel apparatus both, conspiring against Bernie?

The DNC is screwed.  Bernie is not a communist ????

How is Bloomberg an oligarch ???? I credit you for memorizing talking points!

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6 minutes ago, Redline said:

The DNC is screwed.  Bernie is not a communist ????

How is Bloomberg an oligarch ???? I credit you for memorizing talking points!

Thanks for giving my memory credit, but I roll this on the fly. Bernie has always been a Communist, just like everyone else who belongs to an organization where people refer to themselves as comrade. As for Bloomberg. Take definition two and yes we all know he isn't Russian, but it's a nice word that still fits:

ol·i·garch
/ˈäləˌɡärk/
noun
  1. 1.
    a ruler in an oligarchy.
     
  2. 2.
    (especially in Russia) a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence.
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Just now, WalkingOrders said:

Thanks for giving my memory credit, but I roll this on the fly. Bernie has always been a Communist, just like everyone else who belongs to an organization where people refer to themselves as comrade. As for Bllomberg. Take definition two and yes we all know he isn't Russian, but it's a nice word that still fits:

ol·i·garch
/ˈäləˌɡärk/
noun
  1. 1.
    a ruler in an oligarchy.
     
  2. 2.
    (especially in Russia) a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence.

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49 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

Thanks for giving my memory credit, but I roll this on the fly. Bernie has always been a Communist, just like everyone else who belongs to an organization where people refer to themselves as comrade. As for Bloomberg. Take definition two and yes we all know he isn't Russian, but it's a nice word that still fits:

ol·i·garch
/ˈäləˌɡärk/
noun
  1. 1.
    a ruler in an oligarchy.
     
  2. 2.
    (especially in Russia) a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence.

Still can’t differentiate between socialist and communist. By the way, is subsidy a socialist act? 

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1 hour ago, KenKadz said:

"The person, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the matter's sensitivity"

Fake News!, Liars!, and Cowards!

Why is it fake. How do you kmow its a lie. A coward is one thst refuses to hear evidence.

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9 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

 

I am not sure with this new fangled thing called the internet it can ever be stopped. Who really changes their vote from dem to Trump because of Russian bots? 

If true, why campaign at all?

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the barking carnival clown will go to the lowest of lows to get elected /the number of court cases agents him when out of office are unreal /a lot with jail able sentences / for him and family/  corruption and money laundering are some

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5 hours ago, Redline said:

  Bernie is not a communist ????

How is Bloomberg an oligarch ???? I credit you for memorizing talking points!

 

Sure, Trump loves Russia and Putin, why just look what he did Tuesday to help their green economy. He announced new sanctions on a subsidiary of Russian oil company Rosneft for helping Venezuela evade sanctions on oil exports meant to squeeze the Maduro regime.

 

The difference between a communist and a socialist is a socialist is to stupid to know he is a communist!

 

 

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