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I am planning to go to HCMC and apply for an Non O for marriage in the future.  I am currently on an extension of stay from a Non O./A which expires on 27 Jul 20.  I am also going to the US to visit family in April and have a re-entry permit already.  My question is when in Jul can I leave Thailand and get rid of the Non 0/A and apply for the Non O.   If I leave on or about the 27 of July I will lose a day because the consulate will be closed on the 28th for the Kings Birthday.   Leaving Thailand a week earlier would be ideal for me.  Is this a problem?  Will I lose my O/A once I leave Thailand without an re-entry permit?  Thank you.

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Will you have a single or multiple re-entry permit when you make you trip to the states?

If a single re-entry permit there would not be a problem to apply for a single entry non-o visa the week before your current extension expires. Another option would be to apply for a extension with no supporting documents, pay the 1900 baht fee and be granted 7 days to leave the country.

You could check with your local immigration office to find out if they will change the reason for your extension from retirement to marriage to a Thai. No need to get a non-o visa if they will do it.

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I'm in a similar situation. I have a retirement extension of stay that expires on 13 Sep; I also have a multi-re-entry permit. My plan is to go to Saigon towards the expiration date of the one-year extension of stay/re-entry permit -- but I'd like to go maybe a week or two before it expires. Question: Will the Saigon consulate give me a Non Imm O visa (I have all the supporting married to a Thai supporting documents) one or two weeks before my extension expires? And if so, when I return to Thailand, will I (or can I?) be stamped in under the new Non Imm O visa for 90 days -- or will they stamp me in for the few remaining days on my exension/re-entry permit?

 

I would assume the answer to the above would also apply should I want to go to Saigon one or two MONTHS prior to the extension expiring....?

Thanx.

 

 

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1 hour ago, JimGant said:

I'm in a similar situation.

As UbonJoe already mentioned, there is no need to exit Thailand to apply for a 90-day Non Imm O - marriage Visa abroad and subsequently apply in-country for a 1-year extension of that Visa. 

It is much simpler to apply for an extension of stay based on your present OA Visa, but this time not for reason of retirement but for reason of marriage.

It is foreseen in the IO rules/regulations and several original OA Visa holders have switched already to an extension for reason of marriage, instead of one for reason of retirement (the latter requires the #$%^ thai IO-approved health-insurance).  However some rogue IOs refuse to do this, and in that case you are indeed forced to exit Thailand and make the detour of applying for a 90-day Non Imm O- marriage Visa and subsequently applying for an extension of that Visa.

 

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I want to leave Thailand and get an Non O for marriage around 19 Jul 20.  I will have no re-entry permit at that time.  My extension of stay ends 27 Jul 20.  Can I leave Thailand on the 19th of July and apply for an Non 0 on the 20th of Jul?  I do not want an Non O/A for marriage.

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13 hours ago, Mango Bob said:

I want to leave Thailand and get an Non O for marriage around 19 Jul 20.  I will have no re-entry permit at that time.  My extension of stay ends 27 Jul 20.  Can I leave Thailand on the 19th of July and apply for an Non 0 on the 20th of Jul?  I do not want an Non O/A for marriage.

Yes:

There are a couple of ways you can do it:

1: Go outside Thailand and get a 90 day Non-Imm "O" visa and then before that expires apply for an extension based on marriage to a Thai National. This extension requires you to have 400000 baht seasoned in the Thai bank for 2 months before your application of the extension or a minimum of 40000 baht for month international transfers and you must do your 90 day reports to your local immigration office.

2: Go to either Savannakhet, Laos or HCMC, Vietnam and apply for a 1 year Non-Imm "O" visa multi entry based on marriage to a Thai National. This visa application at Savannakhet requires no financials but you are required to leave Thailand every 90 days (border run). If you choose this method then 2 days before your visa expires you do another border run you will receive another 90 day stamp which will give you a total of 15 months plus if just before that 90 days expires you can go and get a 60 day extension. So you can get a total of up to 17 months from the 1 application.

You can leave Thailand and get your Non-Imm"O" visa without having to get a re-entry permit as you will be entering Thailand on a new visa. 

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Correct information, some comments/options added.

 

16 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Yes:

There are a couple of ways you can do it:

1: Go outside Thailand and get a 90 day Non-Imm "O" visa and then before that expires apply for an extension based on marriage to a Thai National. This extension requires you to have 400000 baht seasoned in the Thai bank for 2 months before your application of the extension or a minimum of 40000 baht for month international transfers and you must do your 90 day reports to your local immigration office.

You need to exit Thailand (in order to 'kill' your present permission to stay), but need not necessarily apply for the 90-day Non Imm O - marriage Visa in a neighboring country.  You can also - after returning VisaExempt or on a Tourist Visa - apply in Thailand at your local IO.  

Link to the requirements > https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_79

Note that also the monthly-funds-transfer (min 40.000 THB/month) method is allowed, but not yet mentioned in the requirements from the Immigration website, and that you won't need 12 months of transfers to be proven (as it is a NEW application).

 

17 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

2: Go to either Savannakhet, Laos or HCMC, Vietnam and apply for a 1 year Non-Imm "O" visa multi entry based on marriage to a Thai National. This visa application at Savannakhet requires no financials but you are required to leave Thailand every 90 days (border run). If you choose this method then 2 days before your visa expires you do another border run you will receive another 90 day stamp which will give you a total of 15 months plus if just before that 90 days expires you can go and get a 60 day extension. So you can get a total of up to 17 months from the 1 application.

You can leave Thailand and get your Non-Imm"O" visa without having to get a re-entry permit as you will be entering Thailand on a new visa. 

 

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42 minutes ago, Peter Denis said:

Correct information, some comments/options added.

 

You need to exit Thailand (in order to 'kill' your present permission to stay), but need not necessarily apply for the 90-day Non Imm O - marriage Visa in a neighboring country.  You can also - after returning VisaExempt or on a Tourist Visa - apply in Thailand at your local IO.  

Link to the requirements >

 

Note that also the monthly-funds-transfer (min 40.000 THB/month) method is allowed, but not yet mentioned in the requirements from the Immigration website, and that you won't need 12 months of transfers to be proven (as it is a NEW application).

 

 

Why do you try to confuse things when the simple fact is that if you leave the country it is easier to get your 90 day Non-Imm "O" visa from the country that you have gone to instead of all the stuff that you are saying about coming back into Thailand on a visa exempt then applying here for the 90 day Non-Imm "O' visa and if you bothered to read my post I stated that you could use the 40000 baht monthly income. 

Applicants wishing to stay in the Kingdom longer than 90 days have to file their application either at the Thai consular mission aboard or at the Office of Immigration Bureau in Bangkok located on Government Center B, Chaengwattana Soi 7, Laksi, Bangkok 10210, Tel 0-2141-9889

This is the link from MFA. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html

You should read the last Police Order which is what immigration work by. Here is a lead to the latest Police Order.

You need to do a bit more research before you post because you do not have all the information that is available. Go to this link and you will find a lot more information that you are missing.

 

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5 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Applicants wishing to stay in the Kingdom longer than 90 days have to file their application either at the Thai consular mission aboard or at the Office of Immigration Bureau in Bangkok located on Government Center B, Chaengwattana Soi 7, Laksi, Bangkok 10210, Tel 0-2141-9889

False info from the MFA website. There are almost 80 immigration offices where extension can be apply for now.

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5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

False info from the MFA website. There are almost 80 immigration offices where extension can be apply for now.

Sorry ubon but are we talking about the same thing because I am talking about the 90 day Non-Imm "O" visa application and not the extensions. 

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3 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Sorry ubon but are we talking about the same thing because I am talking about the 90 day Non-Imm "O" visa application and not the extensions. 

It is the same for non immigrant visa applications. All local immigration offices can now accept the application that are then sent for approval at the Immigration Division headquarters for where they are located.

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8 minutes ago, Russell17au said:

Why do you try to confuse things when the simple fact is that if you leave the country it is easier to get your 90 day Non-Imm "O" visa from the country that you have gone to instead of all the stuff that you are saying about coming back into Thailand on a visa exempt then applying here for the 90 day Non-Imm "O' visa and if you bothered to read my post I stated that you could use the 40000 baht monthly income. 

Applicants wishing to stay in the Kingdom longer than 90 days have to file their application either at the Thai consular mission aboard or at the Office of Immigration Bureau in Bangkok located on Government Center B, Chaengwattana Soi 7, Laksi, Bangkok 10210, Tel 0-2141-9889

This is the link from MFA. http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15398-Issuance-of-Visa.html

You should read the last Police Order which is what immigration work by. Here is a lead to the latest Police Order.

You need to do a bit more research before you post because you do not have all the information that is available. Go to this link and you will find a lot more information that you are missing.

 

Why such an aggressive attack on my post?

You provided correct information in your initial post, and I only added some additional info of relevance.

But I do not agree with your present post in which you state that applying abroad for the Non Imm O Visa is easier than doing it in-country.  After doing a same-day border-run you can apply in-country at your local IO which will often be far more convenient than applying at the thai embassy/consulate of the neighboring country.

It has also been pointed out already many times on the Forum that unfortunately the information on the MFA website is incorrect.  It is definitely possible to apply for a 90-day Non Imm O Visa at your local IO.

Re the monthly-fund-transfers, I only added that you do not necessarily need 12 months of such transfers when applying as it is a new application.

Thanks for the link to the regulations, but already often browsed that thread when doing my research.

 

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5 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

It is the same for non immigrant visa applications. All local immigration offices can now accept the application that are then sent for approval at the Immigration Division headquarters for where they are located.

thanks for that ubon much appreciated info

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 I posted two questions in the last week and seen nothing but a lot of fighting back and forth.  I got the information I needed now.  Please close Mod.  Thank you.

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