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Hi.

Will be applying for a 1 year non-immigrant  O-A visa from the New York Consulate.

One of their requirements is a Bank statement showing proof I have sufficient funds to cover my 1 year stay in Thailand.

They also want “A letter of guarantee from the bank (an original copy) is required”.

(Question):

What should I ask my banker to write in the guarantee letter to satisfy the Thai Consulate in New York requirement?

Should the guarantee state Mr X has sufficient funds will not run out of money and be stranded in Thailand?

 

Thanks.

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Since it's perfectly possible to print out (and therefore falsify) a bank statement from your home computer they want your local bank manager to verify that it corresponds to their records by using his official bank manager stamp on the printout, sign and date it. It's no different than any other requirement to verify the genuineness of the document - or at least that's been all that was required by the Canberra and Sydney Consulates when friends of mine have (successfully) applied

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It a letter verify your account is valid and the balance in your account on the day it is written.

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Hi Tomx2,

I PM-ed you some information re the mandatory health-insurance requirement when applying for the Non Imm OA (long-stay) Visa.

To access your PM-messages just click the letter-icon next to your Profile when logged in to the Forum

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The Bank will know what to write, but you must get the letter on the same day as you apply AND draw cash out from the ATM AND then get your bank book updated all for that day. 

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11 hours ago, tomx2 said:

What should I ask my banker to write in the guarantee letter to satisfy the Thai Consulate in New York requirement?

Give them a call, 212-754-2536 / 212-754-2538 / 212-754-1770

I've dealt with them in the past. Convenient, helpful, perfect english, your better off speaking to them directly before you show up. Ask them exactly what they require for your visa. Documents, moneys, etc.

 

Good luck.

 

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2 hours ago, Surelynot said:

The Bank will know what to write, but you must get the letter on the same day as you apply AND draw cash out from the ATM AND then get your bank book updated all for that day. 

Hi.

 

Just a quick clarification as I got a little confused.

 

At the end of the month, I get mailed a (hard copy) bank statement showing my Checking/Savings account for that month. It may be delivered to my apartment 2-3 days in the next month.

Let say on February 29th I have $50,000 in my Bank account.

 

On March 10, 2020 I go to my banker requesting a guarantor certificate confirming I have $50,000 in my Bank account. I have not withdrawn any funds from February 29th thru March 10th.

 

On March 15th I go to the Thai Consulate presenting my (February)Bank statement and guarantor doc from my banker.

 

Will this be OK? Or do I have to get the guarantor letter on March 15th.

 

Thanks.

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Thanks all for your reply.   Peter Thanks for the info.

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7 hours ago, tomx2 said:

Hi.

 

Just a quick clarification as I got a little confused.

 

At the end of the month, I get mailed a (hard copy) bank statement showing my Checking/Savings account for that month. It may be delivered to my apartment 2-3 days in the next month.

Let say on February 29th I have $50,000 in my Bank account.

 

On March 10, 2020 I go to my banker requesting a guarantor certificate confirming I have $50,000 in my Bank account. I have not withdrawn any funds from February 29th thru March 10th.

 

On March 15th I go to the Thai Consulate presenting my (February)Bank statement and guarantor doc from my banker.

 

Will this be OK? Or do I have to get the guarantor letter on March 15th.

 

Thanks.

It's perfectly ok

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7 hours ago, tomx2 said:

Just a quick clarification as I got a little confused.

 

Ignore that post. It is incorrect info. He was writing about applying for an extension of stay based upon retirement at a immigration office here.

What you wrote is correct. But the bank might print out a new statement when the bank does the letter.

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I would definitely NOT be going for an  Non-Immigrant O-A Visa if it were me.

Many currently on that Visa type  here are  already  changing to a Non-Immigrant O Visa.

Reread Peter Dennis's Private Message and come in without a Visa and receive a 30 day Visa Exempt stamp and start the process here  , is my advice.

 

 

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59 minutes ago, zaZa9 said:

I would definitely NOT be going for an  Non-Immigrant O-A Visa if it were me.

Many currently on that Visa type  here are  already  changing to a Non-Immigrant O Visa.

Reread Peter Dennis's Private Message and come in without a Visa and receive a 30 day Visa Exempt stamp and start the process here  , is my advice.

Hi, just to clarify.

I did not send the full Roadmap to @tomx2 but only the Addendum, explaining the caveats and hoops you have to go through when currently applying for a Non Imm OA Visa in your home-country.

Imo the Non Imm OA Visa is still the Golden Visa and very worthwhile if you can get it, PROVIDED you have international health-insurance that covers you while in Thailand AND are able to persuade your insurer to fill-in and sign the Foreign Insurance Certificate. 

And it is indeed recommended - as zaZa9 wrote - when you don't meet those 2 conditions to apply for a Non Imm O - retirement Visa that does not require thai IO-approved health-insurance (and of course it is at same time highly recommended to also subscribe to a health-insurance policy that meets your needs, instead of succumbing to the thai IO-approved insurance scam).

>> I just PM-ed the OP the full Roadmap, which explains in full detail all options to apply for or convert to a Non Imm O - retirement Visa and subsequent 1-year extension, which would be helpful when he does not succeed in getting the Non Imm OA (long-stay) Visa in his home-country. 

 

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Got through that once , a Bank Statement is not enough !

a Bank Guarantee not older than 3 Days signed by a Supervisor !

Do a movement on that Day , before you get the Guarantee Letter ( 100 THB )

That shows time period correct in your Bank Book .... They want to see the last

3 Month on an Acount that is used . ( Copy those Pages from your Book . 

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2 minutes ago, bugattiklaus said:

Got through that once , a Bank Statement is not enough !

a Bank Guarantee not older than 3 Days signed by a Supervisor !

Do a movement on that Day , before you get the Guarantee Letter ( 100 THB )

That shows time period correct in your Bank Book .... They want to see the last

3 Month on an Acount that is used . ( Copy those Pages from your Book . 

Wrong info. That is info for an extension of stay application at immigration office.

From the OP.

On 2/22/2020 at 10:18 AM, tomx2 said:

Will be applying for a 1 year non-immigrant  O-A visa from the New York Consulate.

 

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Thanks all for your feedback. Will be getting FBI check + medical certificate completed next week.

Purchased Thai Aetna insurance in December 2019 that meets the IO  1yr visa requirements. This was done after my not-so-friendly experience with immigration last year. (will explain later).

 

Some of you have suggested why not just get a Tourist Visa or Visa exempt and sort out the retirement in Thailand with a 1yr Non O retirement Visa. Your correct less hassle & paperwork.

 

But I may be playing Russian Roulette showing up at Suvarnabhumi airport this year with a Tourist Visa after last year's encounter with IO. I'm just not sure how they will react to me having a Tourist Visa and possibly being deported.

 

Here was my experience last year (2019):

 

 

Wanted to share my story almost being deported back to the US having a METV Visa. Since this was my experience, you should not consider this being a standard practice by Thai Immigration for someone having a METV. I am 64 and retired.

 

The last 4 years I have been coming to Thailand using a METV Visa doing the following:

- Stay 6 months.

- Go to Phnom Penh Cambodia (for 1 month), get a Thai SETV visa.

- Return to Thailand for 2 months.

- Then back to USA.

So total time in Thailand was roughly 8 months. Never thought of getting a retirement Visa.

 

BIG mistake on my part.

 

In (2019) I lost my passport at home(New York) and applied/received a new USA passport.

As usual, I then got my regular METV visa at the New York Thai Consulate. While preparing my itinerary, I wanted to take advantage of extending my METV visa to 8 months(first time). Phnom Penh is very strict giving SETV visa to all Tourist recently, Posted Questions on this forum whether METV visa can be extended past 6 months. The feedback was positive. “You will get a new 60 day when leaving/returning to Thailand as long as you do not return past the expire date”

 

So after 5 months in Thailand, went to Cambodia for 1 month returned to Suvarnabhumi airport 3 days prior to my METV visa expire date. The IO reviewed my passport and called another IO who walked me back to their office. One IO interviewed me at this time, Another one entered the office later.

 

The conversation went as follows:

IO: You have been coming to Thailand for long-stay on a Tourist Visa.

Me: I didn't know I was doing anything illegal.

Then IO became very loud and belligerent.

IO: How long will you stay in Thailand now!

Me: 3 months.

IO: Where?

Me: Pattaya mainly. Here is my hotel card.

IO: Raising his voice, You are not a Tourist if you only stay in Pattaya. You are a LongStayer.

Me: I am not working in Thailand.

IO: We don't want you working in Thailand.

IO: Sit Down we are going to get you out of Thailand in 5 hours!

Me: Some of my clothes, money and my Laptop are still at my Pattaya hotel. Can someone get them and bring back to airport?

IO: Please set down.

IO: In your country, you can stay only 30 days on a Tourist Visa. But you stay here Long Time on T.V.

IO: Do you know you did a same day Visa Run to Cambodia.

Me: Yes, to initiate a second entry on my METV visa. Used a visa agency van full of Tourists.

IO: That's illegal.

IO: Your METV visa is illegal. No Good!

Me: I purchase it at the Thai Embassy in New York for $200.00.

A Female IO officer intervene. Pointed to the wall where 3 bullet points were written.

I remember only 2. You must have sufficient funds to enter(Which I had available). IO has the right refuse entry regardless of a valid Visa.

 

At this point, I was upset, not the anticipated deportation, but rather not getting my clothes, U.S. cash money and laptop back from my Pattaya residence to the airport before they send my home.

 

About 10 minutes later a younger IO officer (I'll call him IO2) came in and spoke to the first IO officer.

He smiled, appeared more friendly. He grab a chair to sit next to me.

 

 

IO2: First let me say you did nothing wrong.

IO2: The problem is, you are using a Tourist Visa to stay for longtime in Thailand.

Me: But I thought METV allows you to extend up to expire date.

IO2: You need a Long Stay visa. 1 year Non-Immigration, Retirement Visa, or Elite Visa..

IO2: You also should open a Thai bank account and put money in it.

IO2: You are paying Tourist Visa taxes not LongStay visa taxes.

Me: What taxes are you referring to?

IO2: Lodging, Food, Clothes...

Me: But I still pay for these using my METV visa.

IO2: When you don't pay taxes for longstay, we “Thai” people have to pay your longstay tax bill.

Me: What if I use METV visa for 6 months next time. 6 months in, then return to USA.

The IO2 officer grinned but stated I needed long stay visa.

 

After talking to the first IO officer, IO2 said we will extend your METV visa for your 60 days.

Next time you return to Thailand, have a 1 year Non-immigration visa so you will not be hassled again.

I shook his hand had the required photo taken and left.

 

So anticipating I would not arrive to Thailand in 2020 with a TV, I applied/received  a Bank Book and Aetna Thai Insurance (before leaving) as a prerequisite for Non O-A visa requirement.

 

Looking back, I should have applied for a Retirement Visa, during my 4 years coming here. But staying 7 ½ months, the METV visa was the perfect fit for my time spent.

To be honest it never occurred to me I was breaking the law. I saw METV as a double entry visa that could be extended till the expire date.

 

Also staying in one region for a long period of time (Pattaya and sometimes Bangkok) I am really not considered a Tourist in their eyes.

 

 

 

 

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