dbrenn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Artisi said: We hear you, and yes somethings you say true/worth considering, but they ain't the Messiah and they certainly can't walk on water however hard they try. Who can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted February 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, dbrenn said: Call it what you like, but it's in charge, peace has been restored, and students should be studying for their exams anyway, or they'll fail them and their futures will be extinguished. All it takes for Evil to prevail in this world is for enough good men to do nothing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsertNameHere Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, dbrenn said: Call it what you like, but it's in charge, peace has been restored, and students should be studying for their exams anyway, or they'll fail them and their futures will be extinguished. Call it what you like? Peace been restored? I do not you learn anything about history and movements. As the older generations fade newer generations emerge and no matter what and when things do change no matter where you go. Revolutions have been around for generations and they are formed when the new get tired of the old. This not like in the US where movements are hardly formed and the people are not scared of dying Thailand may have a hold on the situation for now but do they really just look around you. You can not say that thing here are peaceful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, InsertNameHere said: Call it what you like? Peace been restored? I do not you learn anything about history and movements. As the older generations fade newer generations emerge and no matter what and when things do change no matter where you go. Revolutions have been around for generations and they are formed when the new get tired of the old. This not like in the US where movements are hardly formed and the people are not scared of dying Thailand may have a hold on the situation for now but do they really just look around you. You can not say that thing here are peaceful. But the old have all the guns, and all the cash, so don't hold your breath. Edited February 24, 2020 by dbrenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, RJRS1301 said: All it takes for Evil to prevail in this world is for enough good men to do nothing. What is your definition of evil? Anything that contradicts liberal lefty western dogma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, dbrenn said: Who can? Not a matter of who can, the problem is the one's who think they can ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsertNameHere Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1 hour ago, dbrenn said: But the old have all the guns, and all the cash, so don't hold your breath. this is true it only takes mass killings as you know thais do not care about dying it is the wealthy that care about death. Its like the saying a dog will bite back once it feels it is in danger. Whether or not changes will happen in or not in our lifetime the wealthy can not stay rich for ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Kenny202 said: I actually found the opposite in the first village I lived. I did several things, in a very low key manner and seemed it never ended well. I remember going to the temple one morning and seeing all the old ladies trudging up this mud road to get there. I suggested to my missus we chip in and order 3000-5000 baht of gravel to pave the road a bit. Maybe one of the local guys could get a couple of tractors, spread it around. People were holding their hand out everywhere. No one wanted to do anything unless I paid them, even people that were well off. I remember going to the local shop one time, couple of kids there, bought them an ice cream or something. The old grandmother got the huffs because she was older than the kids and I should show her respect and buy her something. She actually went to the fridge and selected an armful of stuff. Another time we took a couple of kids lived across the road to the markets. Parents weren't home for days sometimes and they spent a lot of time at our house. Boy 6 and girl 10. Bought them a couple of pairs of shoes each. Turns out the parents thought we were treating them as poor because why didn't we think they could buy shoes for their kids. Another time I suggested we buy another lady a gas burner, told my wife tell her come and tell us when she needs a refill and Ill take care of it. She was working her farm 14 hours a day then coming home looking for wood to make a fire and cook. Her husband thought I was trying it on with her. Offered the guy next door some really nice shirts and shorts I didn't fit any more. All were like near new, some where new. he had about 2 pairs of shorts and shirts to his name. He asked my girl why we not give him new. I don't know how many times people came with us to the city or local town and bought them lunch. They'd order 4 dishes each, eat 1/4 of it and not even take the rest home. Always left a sour taste in my mouth. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. It's just what I experienced and it was very disheartening. In all cases it wasn't like me being the big bwana throwing money around or making a big deal. I like you could just see areas where for so little money you could make peoples lives easier or help make someone happy. But you make one person happy and another jealous or envious. My Mrs was born and raised in the village and even she didn't understand it. A Thai teacher I knew told me later Thais, particularly village Thais don't understand a charitable act. If you give someone something for no reason they think you either want something in return or you are stupid. I can understand that. We had a similar problem with one particular family and the more we helped the more they wanted, so in the end my wife just cut them off. it was a shame really as the husband (her third or fourth I think) is a really nice guy and a hard worker. My wife tells me that he split up with her and left her with the 4 kids (only the youngest was his) and we rarely see him any more. She has started sniffing around again but if she wants, she pays, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, InsertNameHere said: this is true it only takes mass killings as you know thais do not care about dying it is the wealthy that care about death. Its like the saying a dog will bite back once it feels it is in danger. Whether or not changes will happen in or not in our lifetime the wealthy can not stay rich for ever. Sadly they and their families will stay rich forever, but when you die all the money in the world can't go with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, InsertNameHere said: this is true it only takes mass killings as you know thais do not care about dying it is the wealthy that care about death. Its like the saying a dog will bite back once it feels it is in danger. Whether or not changes will happen in or not in our lifetime the wealthy can not stay rich for ever. The rich may have a lot of the guns but the Army is about 50% conscripts but if you put them into a position where they may have to kill their grannies, Mum, Dad, and their siblings, I certainly wouldn't like to be the one who orders open fire. That is one reason why you will never see Thai generals anywhere near the action. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny202 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, billd766 said: I can understand that. We had a similar problem with one particular family and the more we helped the more they wanted, so in the end my wife just cut them off. it was a shame really as the husband (her third or fourth I think) is a really nice guy and a hard worker. My wife tells me that he split up with her and left her with the 4 kids (only the youngest was his) and we rarely see him any more. She has started sniffing around again but if she wants, she pays, Yes there were a few other instances too....one where I drove a woman and her sick kid 60km round trip to the hospital, bought medication. Happy to help and of course didn't expect anything in return. Next day she was at the front of our home selling some weeds she had harvested from the river to my missus for 20 baht. I asked my Mrs about it and she just smiled. Another time some official was coming to the area, and the head man asked that everyone tidy up the front of their "homes". Ridiculous really and I am sure no offical would have been coming to our part of the moo ban but anyway. I had a strimmer and lawn mower so I cleared in front of about 6 of the neighbours houses. Not one said even thank you except the lady next door who bought me a coke and a big thank you, which made it all worth while. Apart from the greedy ones trying to take advantage I just think they don't know what to make of anyone doing them a good turn. In fact not only do they not say thank you they seem to try and avoid you lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, nahkit said: Did I say that everyone has a fridge? I was replying to the post from Britmantoo who wrote:- " Electricity is free, as she only uses a fridge and a few lights. " If you use less than 50 units a month it's free. IN 2009 when I first arrived in CM, I lived in a gf's house out beyond Hang Dong, no aircon, just fridge, Tv, lights. Every other month we got free electricity, without the TV it would have been free every month.. https://www.pier.or.th/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/pier_dp_087.pdf "This study evaluates the performance of Thailand’s Free Basic Electricity (FBE) program" Edited February 24, 2020 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 34 minutes ago, InsertNameHere said: this is true it only takes mass killings as you know thais do not care about dying it is the wealthy that care about death. Its like the saying a dog will bite back once it feels it is in danger. Whether or not changes will happen in or not in our lifetime the wealthy can not stay rich for ever. Only the wealthy care about death? Don't kid yourself. I was (foolishly) in Ratchadamnoen Avenue in Black May 1992. Everyone ran for their lives when the shooting started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CLW Posted February 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2020 This evening about 2,000 students gathered at Kasetsart University Bangkhen to protest against the dissolution of Future Forward party. Normally, this university is not well known for political engagement so one can just imagine what Thammasat and Chulalongkorn are planning in the future and how many people will join. I also heard unconfirmed reports that the student unions of Thailand are planning a demonstration on Ratchadamnoen road soon. This is certainly going to be interesting how this plays out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 16 hours ago, dbrenn said: In the western world: Apprenticeships: gone - nowadays half the population gets up to its eyeballs studying for degrees that are useless in the real world Working poor: the western world has lots of those. Try living on a minimum wage when your minimum pay will never make end meet and you get into a cycle of payday debt Education: dumbed down by lefties who abhor selective schooling and insists on prizes for all - see "Apprenticeships" above Retirement: try living on a state pension over there - old people freeze to death because they can't pay their greenie-inflated power bills ...... but that's why you're in Thailand, right? I tend not take anybody seriously who can't be bothered to read all the posts in a thread to keep themselves updated, you apparently fall into that category ???? I previously answered a comment on UK pensioners , and my residence status, you are well out of touch. Also apprenticeships are back in vogue in the UK, you really gotta learn to keep up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 24 minutes ago, 473geo said: I tend not take anybody seriously who can't be bothered to read all the posts in a thread to keep themselves updated, you apparently fall into that category ???? I previously answered a comment on UK pensioners , and my residence status, you are well out of touch. Also apprenticeships are back in vogue in the UK, you really gotta learn to keep up. Huh? I have to trawl through each and every post you make? What a funny thing to suggest. Fact is that Thailand is not such a bad place. And to suggest that the west is any better is nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
473geo Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dbrenn said: Huh? I have to trawl through each and every post you make? What a funny thing to suggest. Fact is that Thailand is not such a bad place. And to suggest that the west is any better is nonsense. Again as you have not bothered to read my comments fully, or failed miserably to understand them, you are not capable of having a sensible discussion. Bye See when I read your thread about your citizenship some years ago now, I noted you did not relinquish the citizenship of your country of birth, that struck me as bit indecisive considering the effort you put in to become a Thai citizen. Edited February 24, 2020 by 473geo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrenn Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 4 hours ago, 473geo said: Again as you have not bothered to read my comments fully, or failed miserably to understand them, you are not capable of having a sensible discussion. Bye See when I read your thread about your citizenship some years ago now, I noted you did not relinquish the citizenship of your country of birth, that struck me as bit indecisive considering the effort you put in to become a Thai citizen. Why on earth would I relinquish something that I'm perfectly entitled to keep? have you ever heard of dual and multiple nationality? Lots of people have it, as it confers freedom to live and work in different places. And no, I just don't have time to read your entire posting history. Hence my answer only to your specific comments where you denigrated Thailand in favour of places that are no better, and worse in many cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monkfish Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) Video in English at Mahidol University picking up momentum go go go!https://t.co/xeg0tdLyDB?amp=1 Edited February 25, 2020 by monkfish 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 7:12 PM, billd766 said: The rich may have a lot of the guns but the Army is about 50% conscripts but if you put them into a position where they may have to kill their grannies, Mum, Dad, and their siblings, I certainly wouldn't like to be the one who orders open fire. That is one reason why you will never see Thai generals anywhere near the action. That's only a minor reason, the real reason has something to do with no-balls. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/23/2020 at 8:17 AM, Hayduke said: The populace needs to support democracy, True, but first they need to grow a pair and understand that this is *their* problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nahkit Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 7:29 PM, BritManToo said: If you use less than 50 units a month it's free. IN 2009 when I first arrived in CM, I lived in a gf's house out beyond Hang Dong, no aircon, just fridge, Tv, lights. Every other month we got free electricity, without the TV it would have been free every month.. https://www.pier.or.th/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/pier_dp_087.pdf "This study evaluates the performance of Thailand’s Free Basic Electricity (FBE) program" Did your girlfriend have to register as being a low-income family in order to receive the benefit described in the pdf? I just paid 3 electricity bills yesterday, two of them had less than 50 units of use but I still had to pay. In fact, one bill showed 0 units as having been consumed but I had to pay the tax on the monthly service fee (but not the monthly service fee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, nahkit said: Did your girlfriend have to register as being a low-income family in order to receive the benefit described in the pdf? I just paid 3 electricity bills yesterday, two of them had less than 50 units of use but I still had to pay. In fact, one bill showed 0 units as having been consumed but I had to pay the tax on the monthly service fee (but not the monthly service fee). Nope, we did nothing, the bill turned up as normal with all the usual itemised items, then at the bottom, payment due 0.00bht. I think you have to be on the right meter. Edited February 27, 2020 by BritManToo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenny202 Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 1 minute ago, BritManToo said: Nope, we did nothing, the bill turned up as normal with all the usual itemised items, then at the bottom, payment due 0.00bht. I think you have to be on the right meter. Got a feeling it is only rural areas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritManToo Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Just now, Kenny202 said: Got a feeling it is only rural areas Might be, we were half way between Hang Dong and San Patong near what used to be the CarreFour supermarket. On a failed housing estate, 100 plots and only 3 houses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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