US embassy, Amnesty International oppose dissolution of Future Forward party

[rooster59]

US embassy, Amnesty International oppose dissolution of Future Forward party

 

 

The US embassy in Bangkok has expressed concern that the Constitutional Court’s decision on Friday, to dissolve the Future Forward party, risks disenfranchising more than six million Thai voters who voted for the party in the March 24th 2019 general election.

 

In a statement issued on Saturday, the embassy said “The United States strongly supports democratic governance around the world, and appreciates Thailand’s recent seating of a democratically elected government.  While the United States does not favor or support any particular political party in Thailand, more than six million voters chose the Future Party in March 24 elections.  The decision to disband the party risks disenfranchising those voters and raises questions about their representation within Thailand’s electoral system.”

 

Meanwhile, Amnesty International (AI) called on Thai authorities to reverse the dissolution decision and to restore genuine rights to freedom of expression and association in Thailand.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/us-embassy-amnesty-international-oppose-dissolution-of-future-forward-party/

 

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[rooster59]

Ex-NIA deputy chief accuses US embassy of interference in Thailand’s internal affairs

 

 

Thailand’s former National Intelligence Agency deputy director Nanthiwat Samart has accused the US embassy in Bangkok of interfering in Thailand’s domestic affairs over the Constitutional Court’s decision on Friday to dissolve the Future Forward party and to ban its executive committee from politics for ten years.

 

In an online open letter, addressed to the US embassy, Mr. Nanthiwat said that each country has its own history, culture and tradition which does are not necessarily the same as each other’s.

 

“Friendly countries can express their fondness, concern and good wishes toward one another, but must respect each other’s differences and laws, which vary from country to country.  The US judicial system is completely different from that in Thailand.  America must not interfere and refrain from criticizing the law and judicial process of Thailand,” said the ex-NIA deputy chief.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/ex-nia-deputy-chief-accuses-us-embassy-of-interference-in-thailands-internal-affairs/

 

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[Puchaiyank]

Chinese must be loving the direction Thai politics is going...

[BestB]

I guess that’s the last reaction big heads wanted or expected. In addition to protest things may get ugly and get ugly fast 

[neeray]

My wishes are for many countries and organizations to loudly express their disapproval with the dissolution of FFP.

 

When the heat gets too hot, get out of the kitchen (or maybe I should say "chow hall" in this instance).

[bluesofa]

2 minutes ago, BestB said:

I guess that’s the last reaction big heads wanted or expected. In addition to protest things may get ugly and get ugly fast 

I think that's less likely. I'd have thought a spontaneous protest would have shown genuine feelings.

Sure, there might well be protests organised, but I feel the government will do their best to ignore it.

'Get ugly fast' - it's now been a couple of days already.

We'll see. I hope something does happen, but I'm not holding out much hope.

 

There have been plenty of foreign governments giving their opinion on dissolving the FFP.

Unless there are economic sanctions involved, no one in the Thai puppet government will give a sh!t.

[sammieuk1]

In an online open letter, addressed to the US embassy, Mr. Nanthiwat said that each country has its own history, culture and tradition which does are not necessarily the same as each other’s.

 

Well he is right it sure does have its own tradition history and culture all right????

[lujanit]

Do you think that Prayut, Prawit, Anutin (ai farang) or any other Thai politician in this illegal ‘government’ give a toss about what any country thinks.  No way do they care.

[AussieBob18]

1 minute ago, bluesofa said:

I think that's less likely. I'd have thought a spontaneous protest would have shown genuine feelings.

Sure, there might well be protests organised, but I feel the government will do their best to ignore it.

'Get ugly fast' - it's now been a couple of days already.

We'll see. I hope something does happen, but I'm not holding out much hope.

 

There have been plenty of foreign governments giving their opinion on dissolving the FFP.

Unless there are economic sanctions involved, no one in the Thai puppet government will give a sh!t.

Economic sanctions are definitely possible in the future. Immediately if/when Thai defaults on US airline purchases, but also likely as the true nature of the Thai/Chinese government control and abuse of the Thai people becomes visible in the West.  This will only happen of course, when protests become much larger and louder - which will flow on from the impending economic and Baht collapse.  

[BobbyL]

each country has its own history, culture and tradition 

 

A rigged election with an election commission and constitutional court that were handpicked by the establishment. This has all the hallmarks of how the Roman emperors would bribe the senate to keep their hold of the empire. That was over 2000 years ago. 

[bluesofa]

5 minutes ago, BobbyL said:

each country has its own history, culture and tradition 

 

A rigged election with an election commission and constitutional court that were handpicked by the establishment. This has all the hallmarks of how the Roman emperors would bribe the senate to keep their hold of the empire. That was over 2000 years ago. 

2,000 years ago. Welcome to Thailand 4.0

[rkidlad]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

 

In an online open letter, addressed to the US embassy, Mr. Nanthiwat said that each country has its own history, culture and tradition

Saying, “it’s my culture” isn’t an excuse for being a ****. 
 

There are universal rights and wrongs. 

[sungod]

31 minutes ago, BestB said:

I guess that’s the last reaction big heads wanted or expected. In addition to protest things may get ugly and get ugly fast 

FF said they want to break the cycle of prolonged protests.

[BestB]

31 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

I think that's less likely. I'd have thought a spontaneous protest would have shown genuine feelings.

Sure, there might well be protests organised, but I feel the government will do their best to ignore it.

'Get ugly fast' - it's now been a couple of days already.

We'll see. I hope something does happen, but I'm not holding out much hope.

 

There have been plenty of foreign governments giving their opinion on dissolving the FFP.

Unless there are economic sanctions involved, no one in the Thai puppet government will give a sh!t.

Seems they not ignoring it, according to another OP, health ministry said it was a no no due to corona.

 

i do not see it’s just dying off, US has spoken , EU has spoken already ,if anything Gaining momentum.

 

sanctions are also a possibility but depends on response from the big heads and considering their lack Of intelligence , it’s fairly possible 

[BestB]

16 minutes ago, sungod said:

FF said they want to break the cycle of prolonged protests.

From my understanding it’s not FF who is behind the protest but students union

[holy cow cm]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

America must not interfere and refrain from criticizing the law and judicial process of Thailand,” said the ex-NIA deputy chief.

Athenian, Machiavellian, Suppressive, Hypocritical are just a few select words that this and all those people need to hear. But the words Democracy or Democratic should never touch his or their lips. Let the Heat Begin coming from all the Western and Asian developed Nations and International groups as this is a travesty against the Thai people and Young generation who need to take control having their turn at life. Not the Elite and the Military for the farce reasons they want to stay in power. Thailand should be showing the way for being a role model country in the world, but unfortunately the mold needs to be broken before it can move ahead.

Edited February 23, 2020 by holy cow cm

[Liverpudlian]

Thoughts of chairman mao! change must come ... thru the barrel of a gun.

[BestB]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

Ex-NIA deputy chief accuses US embassy of interference in Thailand’s internal affairs

Foreigner go away and do not dare to speak but whenever a  disaster strikes, foreigners must help. Got to love the mentality 

[Nyezhov]

48 minutes ago, rkidlad said:

There are universal rights and wrongs. 

Yes, but who decides what they are?

 

This is all much ado about nothing IF the embassy acted in accordance with the direction of the State Department in this statement. We point out out X, they point out Y and thens its business as usual. There will be no sanctions or consequences from the USA. And they Thais will still know where, in the end, their bread is buttered.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, rkidlad said:

Saying, “it’s my culture” isn’t an excuse for being a ****. 
 

There are universal rights and wrongs. 

More like a moral obligation to the people of Thailand, unfortunately morals and ex Junta are incomapable. 

[ParkerN]

1 hour ago, lujanit said:

Do you think that Prayut, Prawit, Anutin (ai farang) or any other Thai politician in this illegal ‘government’ give a toss about what any country thinks.  No way do they care.

 

Spot on. The headline suggests USA and the UN don't like the demise of Future Forward. Nobody in the government is interested and nobody will do anything about what the USA or the UN thinks. Thailand has been ignoring the rest of the world for decades, nothing happens.

 

There's only one opinion that matters in Thailand and that's the problem, the elephant in the room.

 

 

[spiekerjozef]

1 hour ago, rooster59 said:

“The United States strongly supports democratic governance around the world, and appreciates Thailand’s recent seating of a democratically elected government.

What? Does the outside world sees it that way?

[spinner2020]

Anyone else see this yesterday from ABC? Purports to be from FFP boss's 9-year-old daughter.

Clever Greta-style marketing.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-22/rights-groups-condemn-banning-of-thai-political-party/11991538

If it gets wider attention after the weekend, it could become significant. At least, added to the virus, shootings etc it would give pause to farangs perhaps planning holidays in LoS.

As others have said, economic boycotts are the only thing that might hurt the [non] junta and the elephant in the room.

[Matzzon]

2 hours ago, rooster59 said:

Thailand’s former National Intelligence Agency deputy director Nanthiwat Samart has accused the US embassy in Bangkok of interfering in Thailand’s domestic affairs over the Constitutional Court’s decision on Friday to dissolve the Future Forward party and to ban its executive committee from politics for ten years.

Yes, It´s easy to understand why they interfere. Somebody has to tell them they don´t have their head properly screwed to their necks.

[tifino]

1 hour ago, lujanit said:

Do you think that Prayut, Prawit, Anutin (ai farang) or any other Thai politician in this illegal ‘government’ give a toss about what any country thinks.  No way do they care.

well, it did pinch a raw nerve or two 

[ChrisY1]

China will be having a field day with this news....it will make it so much easier to simply just walk in.

[ParkerN]

33 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

What? Does the outside world sees it that way?

 

If it were me, I think I'd just shut up. Opinions like this from countries like the USA are laughable.

 

Kiss of death.

[bluesofa]

 

6 minutes ago, tifino said:

15 minutes ago, bluesofa said:

20 minutes ago, Assurancetourix said:

Unless the USA intervenes directly and this economically;
it is them, the USA , which prevented the geographical division of Thailand that China and the UK had secretly signed in the event of defeat of the evil coallition

Can you give us more details about this?

back in 1945/6?

Yes, I assumed it was then.

So far I can't find any information about the UK and China signing anything about Thailand.

[ParkerN]

12 minutes ago, tifino said:

well, it did pinch a raw nerve or two 

No. It's politic to pretend they care, but they don't. There's only 1 opinion they care about and it doesn't come from a foreigner. Not the USA anyway. China perhaps.

[faraday]

Does anyone have a link to this Statement by the US embassy, please?

 

On the US site, it has a translate tab, but it doesn't translate it.