Canada concerned over ‘disenfranchising’ of six million Future Forward voters

[webfact]

Canada concerned over ‘disenfranchising’ of six million Future Forward voters

By The Nation

 

The Embassy of Canada in Thailand has joined the US and the European Union in raising concerns about the dissolution of the Future Forward Party.

 

In a statement on its Facebook page, the statement said: “The Embassy of Canada to Thailand expresses its concerns following the dissolution, under court order, of a leading opposition party in Thailand on Friday. Thailand had made significant progress in restoring

 

democracy through holding a general election in March 2019, which resulted in an elected parliament with seats held by a wide range of political parties. The freedom of those parties to assemble, and to represent their constituents’ views, remains one of the central pillars of democratic rule. 

 

“While the consistent application of domestic laws is the sovereign purview of a country's judiciary, the effect of this decision is to disenfranchise over six million voters who cast ballots in favour of their preferred party. The full exercise of fundamental political rights -- of expression, assembly and representation - is imperilled when political parties are no longer allowed to act on behalf of the citizens they were elected to serve.

 

“Parliamentary politics are by nature complex and give rise to competing visions. Debate and dialogue are hallmarks of democracy, and should be at the heart of efforts to overcome political differences.”

 

The statement said that Canada will continue to monitor the situation “in line with our global commitment to democracy, human rights, and respect for international law”.

 

The US Embassy in Bangkok, the European Union in Brussels and other international human rights groups had also raised questions about the Thai Constitutional Court’s verdict to disband the Future Forward Party and bar its executives from politics for 10 years.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30382684

 

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[Matzzon]

Doesn´t matter how many countries that are raising concern about anything, when the country concerned are not concerned.

[sirineou]

3 minutes ago, Matzzon said:

Doesn´t matter how many countries that are raising concern about anything, when the country concerned are not concerned.

Concerned countries have tools in their toolbox to induce concern in unconcerned countries. Let's see if talk is translated to action, so far I don't see anything other than talk, and I would not hold my breath while waiting.  

[colinneil]

Canada and many other countries are concerned, sad thing is the muppets in government here are not.

As every day passes they dream up more BS to stifle any legitimate opposition.

[Colabamumbai]

"We stand on guard for thee O Canada". 

[FarFlungFalang]

Being openly pointed and laughed at by the global community is not a thing to be sneezed at.

[canuckamuck]

Canada knows about disenfranchising, just ask anyone in the oil industry.

 

[RichardColeman]

If the junta cannot see that other countries see through their 'democracy' antics, they are even more deluded than most of us think they are

[Creasy]

All that matters to the Junta and its sycophants is that  China gives a big thumbs up to the move.

[mtls2005]

Disenfranchising FFP voters is a feature, and not a bug.

 

Disciplining party leaders as individuals would have left the party standing. You can't have that.

 

 

 

 

[Assurancetourix]

3 hours ago, sirineou said:

Concerned countries have tools in their toolbox to induce concern in unconcerned countries. Let's see if talk is translated to action, so far I don't see anything other than talk, and I would not hold my breath while waiting.  

I also go in this direction.
If these are just words, you might as well shut your mouth;
on the other hand if it is followed by severe economic sanctions, there, I will applaud with both hands and even with my feet if I get there

[TKDfella]

I feel, like comments on the other related threads, that these statements won't mean much on their own. But then we are talking about the diplomatic agencies and rightly so that they should be the first to voice an opinion. Should there be a deterioration then I would expect other countries to consider 'further measures'. Of course it is up to the Thai people to speak out but....

[Magenta408]

Canada should focus on all the problems it has back home and keep their noses out of other people's or countries' business. 

[christophe75]

There is a simple test to do.

 

Look at the picture of the so called "prime minister" of Canada.

 

Justin Trudeau.

 

The guy who is more concerned by black-faces, with his fanatical xenophilia, constant apologies to the world, climate change hysteria and LGBT rights blabla.

He is a caricature.

 

Now... read again the "statement"...

 

It's laughable... Canada is "concerned" ? ????

 

Feel the terror ! Feel the menace !

 

For once, I will join our thai fellow people : we do not care what Justin Trudeau is thinking about anything... Especially about Thailand.

 

He can go to hell with his "concerns".

 

If this guy and this country were serious... then nobody would laugh at them.

 

My point : imagine the same headline.... But replace "Canada" with "Russia"...

 

Russia was "concerned" as well with the situation in Syria... We saw what it meant after, on the field....

 

So again : Trudeau, go back to your black-faces during your student parties... You are empty and irrelevant.

 

And on a personal note : it's easy for me to write this... knowing that i'm not particularly in love with Prayuth and his generals friends etc.

Edited February 24, 2020 by christophe75

[yellowboat]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The US Embassy in Bangkok, the European Union in Brussels and other international human rights groups had also raised questions about the Thai Constitutional Court’s verdict to disband the Future Forward Party and bar its executives from politics for 10 years.

There are no intricacies, no subtleties, no concerns with voters or the outside world.  cha cha wants power, so he can continue providing for the elites and boring the rest of the population to death little hope and job creation. 

[steve187]

44 minutes ago, Magenta408 said:

Canada should focus on all the problems it has back home and keep their noses out of other people's or countries' business. 

that's not how the world works.

[prakhonchai nick]

2 hours ago, Creasy said:

All that matters to the Junta and its sycophants is that  China gives a big thumbs up to the move.

Just as China are moving rapidly to gobble up Cambodia, no doubt they have their sights firmly set on Thailand as their next scalp.

[hotchilli]

7 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Doesn´t matter how many countries that are raising concern about anything, when the country concerned are not concerned.

It might when the "said" country comes to make trade deals in the future, and gets a frosty response!

[Matzzon]

3 minutes ago, hotchilli said:

It might when the "said" country comes to make trade deals in the future, and gets a frosty response!

They always have China

[CGW]

4 hours ago, Magenta408 said:

Canada should focus on all the problems it has back home and keep their noses out of other people's or countries' business. 

At the end of the day! - I think that is what all the "concerned" parties will do, they all have enough problems of their own to contend with, historically no action has been taken against Thailand, despite multiple coups, though in previous events they did give the power back to the people - albeit in a very contentious way!

Thailand is doing something correct in the world wide arena, they seem to be untouchable - I do wonder what they are doing to make it so, apart from the data base they will be sharing?

[Baerboxer]

Ah the 'follow the leaders" Canadians jumping on the bandwagon.

 

Good job they've such a spotless transparent leader.

[Baerboxer]

4 minutes ago, CGW said:

At the end of the day! - I think that is what all the "concerned" parties will do, they all have enough problems of their own to contend with, historically no action has been taken against Thailand, despite multiple coups, though in previous events they did give the power back to the people - albeit in a very contentious way!

Thailand is doing something correct in the world wide arena, they seem to be untouchable - I do wonder what they are doing to make it so, apart from the data base they will be sharing?

 

If they are so "concerned" about China what are the doing about China, Russia, Turkey, Venezuela, and various assorted African and South American dodgy regimes.

 

Answer - not a lot really. And some get seats on nice UN committees too!

[blazes]

I'm not sure I'd want to live in a Stalinist state....

 

BUT

As a Canadian I am 100% angry at the refusal of the Canadian "government" to go in with the army and police to enforce the law of the country, to clear the blockades of the country's rail-lines,and get the country MOVING,  just because a small minority (less than 10!!!!) of hereditary Indian chiefs say they have not been consulted on a gas line in British Columbia.  This, despite the FACT that all the ELECTED chiefs of the same tribe have given their approval to the gas line AND the First Nations community in the disputed territory will be participants in the project.

Needless to say, the hereditary chiefs would not be listened to if it were not for the squawking of the baby middle-class in Vancouver and Victoria.  Which of course the local media are happy to report on night after night. 

When the Canadian government itself enforces the rule of law in its own country, then and only then should it go about telling other countries how to enforce the law.

Until then, Canada should just shut the fk up....

[jackdd]

16 minutes ago, CGW said:

Thailand is doing something correct in the world wide arena, they seem to be untouchable - I do wonder what they are doing to make it so, apart from the data base they will be sharing?

They don't have anything that other countries want.

Just look at North Korea. If North Korea would have big oil reserves other countries would have brought democracy long ago.

[Andre0720]

9 hours ago, Magenta408 said:

Canada should focus on all the problems it has back home and keep their noses out of other people's or countries' business. 

The speeches are always about Canadians this and Canadians that.

But it is coming entirely from Justin Trudeau, not from Canadians....

[ramrod711]

5 hours ago, blazes said:

I'm not sure I'd want to live in a Stalinist state....

 

BUT

As a Canadian I am 100% angry at the refusal of the Canadian "government" to go in with the army and police to enforce the law of the country, to clear the blockades of the country's rail-lines,and get the country MOVING,  just because a small minority (less than 10!!!!) of hereditary Indian chiefs say they have not been consulted on a gas line in British Columbia.  This, despite the FACT that all the ELECTED chiefs of the same tribe have given their approval to the gas line AND the First Nations community in the disputed territory will be participants in the project.

Needless to say, the hereditary chiefs would not be listened to if it were not for the squawking of the baby middle-class in Vancouver and Victoria.  Which of course the local media are happy to report on night after night. 

When the Canadian government itself enforces the rule of law in its own country, then and only then should it go about telling other countries how to enforce the law.

Until then, Canada should just shut the fk up....

I suppose that if you were a native Canadian you may have a different view. If you had a treaty that granted you a plot of land that would be yours forever and ever after, then the government said well we didn't mean that you could prevent railways and pipelines from crossing your land. There was a 1.6 million litre oil spill in Saskatchewan recently after a train derailment. I wonder if the government would clean it, or pay to have it cleaned if it were native land? Let us assume that all the pipelines and tanker loads of oil reach the seaports and are loaded onto tanker ships, then 1.6 million litres of oil are spilled in the sea. Who pays, are the governments of Alberta and Saskatchewan willing to sign an agreement that they will pay for all environmental damage and cleanup? Nope, didn't think so. Alberta has already hatched a plan to separate from Canada, or alternatively attempt to steal part of northern B.C. so that they would have access to the port at Prince Rupert. I wonder if Alberta would approve of B.C. stealing the tar sands? As for the topic of whether Canada should express concern about human rights in Thailand, I'm proud to say they express concerns about China, Russia and many other countries. That's why we go wherever the UN goes but we didn't join the U S in Iraq.

[Artisi]

12 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Being openly pointed and laughed at by the global community is not a thing to be sneezed at.

Not in LOS, farangs don't understand - therefore what ever they say doesn't mean anything. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Looks like the Foreign Ministry and all the various other functionaries and political minions are going to be quite busy writing letters of protest in the coming weeks.

 

And I'm sure we'll read about every one of them as they're all trumpeted in local news coverage.

[blazes]

36 minutes ago, ramrod711 said:

I suppose that if you were a native Canadian you may have a different view. If you had a treaty that granted you a plot of land that would be yours forever and ever after, then the government said well we didn't mean that you could prevent railways and pipelines from crossing your land. There was a 1.6 million litre oil spill in Saskatchewan recently after a train derailment. I wonder if the government would clean it, or pay to have it cleaned if it were native land? Let us assume that all the pipelines and tanker loads of oil reach the seaports and are loaded onto tanker ships, then 1.6 million litres of oil are spilled in the sea. Who pays, are the governments of Alberta and Saskatchewan willing to sign an agreement that they will pay for all environmental damage and cleanup? Nope, didn't think so. Alberta has already hatched a plan to separate from Canada, or alternatively attempt to steal part of northern B.C. so that they would have access to the port at Prince Rupert. I wonder if Alberta would approve of B.C. stealing the tar sands? As for the topic of whether Canada should express concern about human rights in Thailand, I'm proud to say they express concerns about China, Russia and many other countries. That's why we go wherever the UN goes but we didn't join the U S in Iraq.

 

Don't know whether to laugh or cry over this lot.

I'll confine myself to oil spills:  Georgraphy test:  name some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.

Answer: the Straits of Hormuz and the Straits of Malacca.  (Maybe the English Channel?)

How many oil spills can you recall in any of those channels?

[ramrod711]

6 minutes ago, blazes said:

 

Don't know whether to laugh or cry over this lot.

I'll confine myself to oil spills:  Georgraphy test:  name some of the busiest shipping lanes in the world.

Answer: the Straits of Hormuz and the Straits of Malacca.  (Maybe the English Channel?)

How many oil spills can you recall in any of those channels?

If a spill is so unlikely, signing an agreement to pay for all damages shouldn't be a problem then. Problem solved.