webfact Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Israeli fire kills Palestinian trying to plant bomb at Gaza border - Israeli military A Palestinian, who was injured at the Israel-Gaza border, is treated at a hospital in the southern Gaza Strip February 23, 2020. REUTERS/Ibraheem Abu Mustafa GAZA (Reuters) - Israeli forces killed a Palestinian trying to plant explosives near Israel's border security fence with the Gaza Strip on Sunday, the Israeli military said. The Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad said the man was one of its members, but it did not disclose what he was doing in the area. In a statement, the Israeli military said soldiers opened fire at two Palestinians placing an explosive device next to the fence in the Hamas Islamist-run enclave. It said one of the men was killed and a military bulldozer removed his body. Witnesses and health officials said two other Palestinians were wounded by Israeli gunfire directed at a group of people who had approached the area and tried to recover the body. Video footage shot by a Gaza photographer and posted on social media showed what appeared to be a lifeless figure dangling from the mechanical arm of the bulldozer, which was escorted by an Israeli tank. The images caused an uproar in Gaza, with many on social media calling for retaliation. The Palestinian Foreign Ministry condemned "the brutal abuse of the body and its abduction". Later in the day, the militant group Islamic Jihad fired a barrage of rockets from Gaza into Israel, setting off sirens and sending residents of southern Israel running for shelters. Some of the rocket fire was intercepted by missile defences and there were no reports of any Israelis injured. Israel's military then said it carried out strikes against Islamic Jihad targets, including a rocket-launching squad. Four people were wounded, according to officials in Gaza. (Writing by Nidal Almughrabi; Editing by Giles Elgood and Peter Cooney) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-02-24 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking Thailand news and visa info 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matzzon Posted February 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2020 25 minutes ago, webfact said: Israeli forces killed a Palestinian trying to plant explosives near Israel's border security fence with the Gaza Strip on Sunday Yep, it´s never good to walk in the line of fire at the same time carrying explosives. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KC 71 Posted February 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2020 How glorious of them 1 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Self defense - wasn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Ah, such hate and loathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post puipuitom Posted February 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2020 3 hours ago, rhyddid said: Israeli fire keep killing Palestinians as clear genocide goal, meantime a lie saying that the innocents deceased humans were trying to plant a bomb, however who going to question Israeli army or ask for evidences. Shame on anyone who keep supporting this cold blood genocide ! No, the man was singing" I love peace" . When the Israeli's really would have wanted to kill hiom, the bullit would have struck another of his parts. In 1971 as student I visited these territories. Was with Israeli's at a Palestine wedding and with Palestines at an Israeli wedding. With an Israëli "chicken dockter" to help a Palestinian donkey in labour. Lasted more as a day to return, as.. we had to join the celebration. Border ? ? Just some fences with more holes in as an Emmenthaler cheese, no more. In 1982 as buyer I visited some factories at the West bank, saw MANY ( hundreds of thousands) Palestinians from the West bank and Gaza working in Israel, but... Hamas and others wanted to KILL, KILL and KILL Israëli's, so.. now their jobs are taken by Philippino's, Vietnamese and Thai. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toast1 Posted February 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2020 Thank you for this intelligent and decent comment On this site the mention of Jewish Israel causes a small number of obsessive haters to write endless childless and ridiculous hate-filled comments. They pretend to be upset about Palestinian rights but we all know what they really think. Sadly comments like yours are few and unappreciated 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted February 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 1:13 PM, rhyddid said: Israeli fire keep killing Palestinians as clear genocide goal, meantime a lie saying that the innocents deceased humans were trying to plant a bomb, however who going to question Israeli army or ask for evidences. Shame on anyone who keep supporting this cold blood genocide ! Not genocide. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspill Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 It's a common misconception that genocide has to wipe out most of a population, the term was coined by Rafael Lemkin (Jewish incidentally) and can include expulsion (700k expelled in 1948, many yet unable to return), 'causing serious bodily or mental harm' (bulldozing homes will do that), preventing births (Israel's pro natal policies really only focus on Jews), imposing poor living conditions (check). Mass killing isn't necessary, although there have been plenty of small scale massacres 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted February 27, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2020 Simply yet another Israeli war crime. Whatever the Palestinian is supposedly have done..at best destroying a fence so that he and his family can return to where his family was born..unlike the bulldozer driver! Whatever the circumstances, the IDF, supposedly the most moral army in the world (ho ho!), rather than giving assistance to a wounded combatant, attacked and wounded medics seeking to assist the injured for 2 full hours, then crossed over Israel's self imposed border line, hammered the shovel repeatedly over the injured man to make sure he was dead, then dragged him over to the unilaterally defined Israeli side to use the corpse as some future bargaining chip. All of which constitute a war crime! 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeaconJohn Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 8 hours ago, jspill said: It's a common misconception that genocide has to wipe out most of a population, the term was coined by Rafael Lemkin (Jewish incidentally) and can include expulsion (700k expelled in 1948, many yet unable to return), 'causing serious bodily or mental harm' (bulldozing homes will do that), preventing births (Israel's pro natal policies really only focus on Jews), imposing poor living conditions (check). Mass killing isn't necessary, although there have been plenty of small scale massacres Thanks for that clear definition of the term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, dexterm said: Simply yet another Israeli war crime. Whatever the Palestinian is supposedly have done..at best destroying a fence so that he and his family can return to where his family was born..unlike the bulldozer driver! Whatever the circumstances, the IDF, supposedly the most moral army in the world (ho ho!), rather than giving assistance to a wounded combatant, attacked and wounded medics seeking to assist the injured for 2 full hours, then crossed over Israel's self imposed border line, hammered the shovel repeatedly over the injured man to make sure he was dead, then dragged him over to the unilaterally defined Israeli side to use the corpse as some future bargaining chip. All of which constitute a war crime! Got To love the usual nonsense from the usual poster. so a confirmed Islamic jihadist tries to plant a bomb, most certainly not to plant a flower or a tree, gets caught and given his wish of Virgins and camels but then it’s bad IDF for not only not allowing him to carry on but also for mistreating his body. islamic jihadist with no regard for anyone’s life all over sudden deserves respect ???? any reason why you hiding out in Australia instead of being on the front lines with your cousins to fight the cause which you so much support? rhetorical question, no need for another nonsensical post 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, dexterm said: Simply yet another Israeli war crime. Whatever the Palestinian is supposedly have done..at best destroying a fence so that he and his family can return to where his family was born..unlike the bulldozer driver! Whatever the circumstances, the IDF, supposedly the most moral army in the world (ho ho!), rather than giving assistance to a wounded combatant, attacked and wounded medics seeking to assist the injured for 2 full hours, then crossed over Israel's self imposed border line, hammered the shovel repeatedly over the injured man to make sure he was dead, then dragged him over to the unilaterally defined Israeli side to use the corpse as some future bargaining chip. All of which constitute a war crime! While you and your kind bemoan the fate of the "poor plantains" move the beam between your eyes and look at Syria if only for a moment and see the carnage, the genocide and the systematic obliteration of millions of Syrian and Kurds by Russia, Turkey and Syrian forces, where indictment carpet bombing of town and cites are everyday occurrence and millions are displaced and destitute, but of course, this will be 'deflecting the issues' you'd say, but while the so called 'plight of the Palestinians' bother you and others so much, i don't see you utter a word when it comes to Russia and Turkey engaging in atrocities, begs the question: are you blind and deaf or you and your ilk just don't care?... 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, BestB said: Got To love the usual nonsense from the usual poster. so a confirmed Islamic jihadist tries to plant a bomb, most certainly not to plant a flower or a tree, gets caught and given his wish of Virgins and camels but then it’s bad IDF for not only not allowing him to carry on but also for mistreating his body. islamic jihadist with no regard for anyone’s life all over sudden deserves respect ???? any reason why you hiding out in Australia instead of being on the front lines with your cousins to fight the cause which you so much support? rhetorical question, no need for another nonsensical post I note you do not deny that the IDF mistreated the Palestinian's body... a war crime. Thank you. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexterm Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, ezzra said: While you and your kind bemoan the fate of the "poor plantains" move the beam between your eyes and look at Syria if only for a moment and see the carnage, the genocide and the systematic obliteration of millions of Syrian and Kurds by Russia, Turkey and Syrian forces, where indictment carpet bombing of town and cites are everyday occurrence and millions are displaced and destitute, but of course, this will be 'deflecting the issues' you'd say, but while the so called 'plight of the Palestinians' bother you and others so much, i don't see you utter a word when it comes to Russia and Turkey engaging in atrocities, begs the question: are you blind and deaf or you and your ilk just don't care?... Off topic deflection. The OP concerns Israeli war crimes against Palestinians. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ivor bigun Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 1:13 PM, rhyddid said: Israeli fire keep killing Palestinians as clear genocide goal, meantime a lie saying that the innocents deceased humans were trying to plant a bomb, however who going to question Israeli army or ask for evidences. Shame on anyone who keep supporting this cold blood genocide ! Well done Israel ,another bomber dead. shame on the Palastinians sending rockets into Israel and shame on anyone who supports them. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bert bloggs Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, dexterm said: I note you do not deny that the IDF mistreated the Palestinian's body... a war crime. Thank you. I read they moved it with a bulldozer ,best way ,he could have had a suicide vest on and blown someone up . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toast1 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 hours ago, ivor bigun said: Well done Israel ,another bomber dead. shame on the Palastinians sending rockets into Israel and shame on anyone who supports them. Exactly We all know who these people are, any mention of Jewish Israel and they write long, boring essays about the evil, Zionist Jewish Israelis. They pretend to be very worried about Palestinian rights. But we all know who they are and why Jewish Israel is their obsession. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 6 hours ago, dexterm said: I note you do not deny that the IDF mistreated the Palestinian's body... a war crime. Thank you. They used a bulldozer along with a tank to ensure safety of the soldiers as it was unknown if there were any explosives or if they would come under attack , no problem what so ever if you wish to label it war crime. But funny how once again you bypass the fact that he was jihadist , I guess he deserves Nobel prize for peace ???? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post toast1 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) These people are obsessed with one thing - Jewish Israel. Next door in Syria, millions have been killed and made refugees, they don't care. If its not Jewish Israel, its not news. Edited February 28, 2020 by toast1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, BestB said: They used a bulldozer along with a tank to ensure safety of the soldiers as it was unknown if there were any explosives or if they would come under attack , no problem what so ever if you wish to label it war crime. But funny how once again you bypass the fact that he was jihadist , I guess he deserves Nobel prize for peace ???? If you have even bothered to watch the appalling video clip you will see two men shot on the Gaza side of the fence. Other Palestinians went to render first aid..the IDF shot them too...that is a war crime itself. The IDF then waited for two hours for the man to slowly die preventing any further assistance. Then they crossed over to the Gaza side of the fence to mutilate the body with a bulldozer. Your concern for Israeli soldiers' safety is baloney! Why bother crossing the fence at all? Why not simply follow the Geneva Convention and allow the Red Crescent or others to render assistance to injured combatants if that's what the IDF claims. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 18 hours ago, jspill said: It's a common misconception that genocide has to wipe out most of a population, the term was coined by Rafael Lemkin (Jewish incidentally) and can include expulsion (700k expelled in 1948, many yet unable to return), 'causing serious bodily or mental harm' (bulldozing homes will do that), preventing births (Israel's pro natal policies really only focus on Jews), imposing poor living conditions (check). Mass killing isn't necessary, although there have been plenty of small scale massacres We need another word in the English language then because when the word "genocide" is used, people think that it means the act of mass killing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Orton Rd Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) On 2/24/2020 at 1:13 PM, rhyddid said: Israeli fire keep killing Palestinians as clear genocide goal, meantime a lie saying that the innocents deceased humans were trying to plant a bomb, however who going to question Israeli army or ask for evidences. Shame on anyone who keep supporting this cold blood genocide ! NOT genocide that was what the Jews suffered in Germany, not a few hundred terrorists killed over the years. These idiots could have had their Palestine in the 30's with the Jew restricted to just 20% of the area- they said NO. They said NO in 1948 and twice since. The Palestinians are not and never have been interested in a 2 state solution, they just want their own with no Israel, well tough it's not going to happen but they never seem to learn. Edited February 28, 2020 by Orton Rd 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sanemax Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 1:13 PM, rhyddid said: Israeli fire keep killing Palestinians as clear genocide goal, meantime a lie saying that the innocents deceased humans were trying to plant a bomb, however who going to question Israeli army or ask for evidences. Shame on anyone who keep supporting this cold blood genocide ! What were the Palestinians planting by the border fence ? A Tree ? 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, sanemax said: What were the Palestinians planting by the border fence ? A Tree ? Who knows..we only have the IDF's word for that. And of course the IDF has a track record of shooting Palestinian farmers who stray beyond an Israeli unilaterally imposed and frequently changing invisible proximity line.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/palestinian-farmer-killed-israeli-strike-gaza-180330053808314.html Notice: no proof of IED offered, just one mutilated corpse recovered. Or does Israel simply leave these fantasy IEDs by the fence..hmmm strange. All of which makes it obvious that the body was mutilated as an example and the bulldozer's sole purpose was to recover a corpse to be used as a future bargaining chip. All war crimes. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dexterm Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Orton Rd said: NOT genocide that was what the Jews suffered in Germany, not a few hundred terrorists killed over the years. These idiots could have had their Palestine in the 30's with the Jew restricted to just 20% of the area- they said NO. They said NO in 1948 and twice since. The Palestinians are not and never have been interested in a 2 state solution, they just want their own with no Israel, well tough it's not going to happen but they never seem to learn. You keep regurgitating garbage about the Peel Commission's partition plan of 1937 which was also rejected by Zionists at their 20th Congress because they wanted even more: the whole of Palestine which they now have.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Commission#The_Jewish_reaction Palestinians rejected it because it was unfair and involved a huge forced transfer of their population. Ben Gurion noted it was a tragic mistake, because it left 6 million Jews to be murdered by Nazis in the Holocaust, who may otherwise have had a country to escape to. Zionists learned from their tragic mistake second time around in 1948, because they knew they had the power to use it as a stepping stone to gain the whole of Palestine, which they have succeeded in doing. Palestinians objected to foreign powers giving away 55% of their land to newcomer European immigrants, when Jews formed only 31% of the population and owned a mere 6% of the land.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine#British_censuses_and_estimations But there's one thing upon which I do agree with you: the two state solution is dead. Trump's annexation plan has made sure of that. Which leaves a one state solution. In that indigenous Palestinians already outnumber and outbreed Israeli Jews, all they need do is stay put and one day Israel will be compelled to share the whole of Palestine with them with one man one vote and a Truth and Reconciliation Commission where no doubt the murky details of the OP war crime will be revealed. Edited February 28, 2020 by dexterm 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast1 Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) What kind of person spends his life obsessed with Jews? Writing long essays about cunning, evil Jews, doing bad things. Jewish history, Jewish power, Jewish mistakes, Jewish future. Obsessively detailing Jewish actions and fantasising about Jews. There is a word for this. Edited February 29, 2020 by toast1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BestB Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 23 hours ago, dexterm said: If you have even bothered to watch the appalling video clip you will see two men shot on the Gaza side of the fence. Other Palestinians went to render first aid..the IDF shot them too...that is a war crime itself. The IDF then waited for two hours for the man to slowly die preventing any further assistance. Then they crossed over to the Gaza side of the fence to mutilate the body with a bulldozer. Your concern for Israeli soldiers' safety is baloney! Why bother crossing the fence at all? Why not simply follow the Geneva Convention and allow the Red Crescent or others to render assistance to injured combatants if that's what the IDF claims. Oh no, jihadist was not carried with flags waving and crowds cheering, what an outrage. lets once again brush aside that he was a jihadist, planting a bomb. Let’s play to the tunes of your violin how he was treated after failing ???? by red crescent , you mean his jihadist buddies ? Because naturally according to your never ending rants, jihadist would never do anything bad and if they do , well then it’s well deserved. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BestB Posted February 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, dexterm said: Who knows..we only have the IDF's word for that. And of course the IDF has a track record of shooting Palestinian farmers who stray beyond an Israeli unilaterally imposed and frequently changing invisible proximity line.https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/03/palestinian-farmer-killed-israeli-strike-gaza-180330053808314.html Notice: no proof of IED offered, just one mutilated corpse recovered. Or does Israel simply leave these fantasy IEDs by the fence..hmmm strange. All of which makes it obvious that the body was mutilated as an example and the bulldozer's sole purpose was to recover a corpse to be used as a future bargaining chip. All war crimes. Yeah , who knows ????. Quit often jihadist plant trees and flowers???? attacking civilians Is resistance but taking out jihadist is a war crime ????, got ya???? Edited February 29, 2020 by BestB 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jspill Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/28/2020 at 7:18 PM, sanemax said: We need another word in the English language then because when the word "genocide" is used, people think that it means the act of mass killing Well ethnic cleansing, but they also deny there's any any of that going on. Some even deny the acts of mass killing, saying Deir Yassin was 'debunked'. Even individual deaths, American activist Rachel Corrie was run over and killed by a bulldozer 'accidentally', etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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