christophe75 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 I suffer from an extreme form of "Thai BS Fatigue Syndrome" : the TBSFS ! Worse than the Wuwuflu virus. What can I do doctor ? And after forests... should we talk about... fields burned ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post johnny49r Posted February 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2020 17 hours ago, webfact said: The government will seriously prosecute people who set fires in forests no matter whoever they are or whatever their intentions, Natural Resources and Environment Minister Varawut Silpa-archa stated. Forests are one thing but how about the rampant crop and refuse burning that one sees everyday? If government wants to get serious about anything they will need police that are willing and able to participate in enforcement. They talk the talk but can't walk the walk. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, hotchilli said: It is their responsibility to enforce the law... burning forest land is against the law! The guys at the roadblocks are actually soldiers, rather than Police and they are there to stop smugglers and illegal immigrants , they cannot just wander off trying to put fires out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo2014 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 18 hours ago, webfact said: The government will seriously prosecute people who set fires in forests no matter whoever they are or whatever their intentions, Natural Resources and Environment Minister Varawut Silpa-archa stated. So burning crop areas is ok. Should be called Minister of Destroy the environment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Toany Posted February 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2020 The government condones the burning of sugar cane by allowing 50% of sugar cane to be burnt and processed in the sugar cane factories. If the factories will not buy the burnt sugar cane, the farmers won't burn it. But, the sugar cane factories are big money. The government is unwilling to upset big money. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Benmart Posted February 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2020 The police cannot enforce a simple helmet law nationwide. To enforce burn laws is beyond the scope of their ability based on previous and present performance. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30la Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, webfact said: The government will seriously prosecute people who set fires in forests no matter whoever they are or whatever their intentions, Natural Resources and Environment Minister Varawut Silpa-archa stated. And here is another minister of an incapable government that tries to rise from the ashes like Phonix! We have read and heard these threats for years, all that will happen is that another small arsonist will be taken, presented to the media and released after a small fine! Your country is now a single immense fire! Edited February 25, 2020 by 30la Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 'Seriously' eh? Wow. That ought to impress folk. As opposed to not really seriously, which is what TL's had up to now...? OK... Edited February 25, 2020 by ParkerN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, Cake Monster said: Can these people get any more stupid ? They have obviously taken lessons in being stupid and how to make yourself look stupid in public. And they then wonder why people ridicule them And therein lies the real problem. In general, Thais do not ridicule this people; a combination of fear and the Thai culture which has permeated the indoctrination of Thais for decades ensures that ridicule is absent. The only people ridiculing this government, are foreigners, and it's fairly well-known that the opinions of foreigners are ignored in Thailand. because they aren't Thai or Chinese, and therefore don't matter. Edited February 25, 2020 by ParkerN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redline Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 They have a big military doing nothing-they should be posting them in high burn areas-lock em up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 3:51 PM, LivinLOS said: When locals are burning, and burning is banned.. Its the police who 'should' enforce that ban. They dont tho.. We have had the same in our village, keep promising my wife they would come later and dont come. I don't believe that's correct about the police. When the Head of our District had his cronies go out to each village to advise that burning off of any kind was banned from Jan. 1, the villagers were advised that they MUST (555) report offenders to their local Arbitor Office and that the Arbitor Office would impose the penalties, in our Districts case 50,000 baht fine and/or 6 months imprisonment. To date no fires during the day, but quite a few at night when it's harder to detect and identify the offenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selatan Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 15 hours ago, Sambotte said: This problem is huge to fix, to be honest. In SE Asia it's from Thailand, Laos, and Myanmar, if not China too. And from Indonesia in the south. Singapour has dealt with this issue from Indonesia in the past, but with arguable success ? First step would be to be serious indeed. Fine the earth-criminals is not going to change anything. Unless huge fine, to the owner of the land too if responsible, or confiscation, or obviously PRISON ! Real time. You can go in prison for smoking a joint or having overstay, but those who burn forest and harm millions of people are barely fined (i guess 500 bahts ? ???? If ever...). -> First step : prison risk. Or huge fine. Then you can bet police will move ???? Second step, much more difficult, is regional. Laos-Myanmar-China and Indonesia. Those farmers KILL million of people, or severely injure them. For Thailand it's of absolute importance though. Tourism is near 20% of revenu. Tourists know now (i mean more and more) about the non-viability of north Thailand during 6 months, and health hazard in Bangkok (but well, it's a big town). And some time issue in the south from Indonesia. But the main problem is in the north imo, and very differently in Bangkok. Impact, if nothing is done, could be more and more severe, and yep i mean for business. That said, yeah it's kind of... unreal, what non-mesures are taken, but does California do better for example ? Or Brazil ? For years, Indonesia have said it would prevent the fires from happening but all their warnings to landowners have failed. If you ask me, the only solution is to fire the provincial chiefs if fires originate from their provinces. That would force the provincial chiefs to do likewise to their district chiefs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Tracy Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 Sounds like an episode from Yes Minister...This is serious... Youtube, look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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