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I have an HIV positive 45 year old Thai friend located in Nakhon Nayok. She is currently prescribed GPO-VIR Z250 antiretroviral medication, for which she is charged 15,000 baht/month by her local hospital.  This is beyond her means, and I have been assisting with the payments. Is it possible for her to get this medication, or an alternative, at a lower price?  She has contacted the Thai Red Cross who, according to her, would not offer any saving.

Any advice please?

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Price sounds suspiciously high. No idea about antiviral costs but PrEP is 400 baht a month, I'd expect antivirals to be much cheaper than 15k a month

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Try the big hospital at the Victory Monument intersection in Bangkok.

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19 minutes ago, Sheryl said:

It is a scam as I have already informed the OP by PM. Apparently he refuses to believe it.

 

This medication does not cost remotely this much even at a top tier private  hospital. More like 1,500 a month,  and less at a government hospital for the few who have to pay full price at one.

 

Thais can get it for free at the government hospital they are registered at. She is absolutely lying.

 

 

 

 

I know this for first hand. Had an ex who had it. All free. In fact it could be her 5555. Chatting to a friend of mine in oz the other day hes been sending his Thai gf serious sums of money for operations. I asked him why she was going to a private hospital and not a government hospital? He told me she was going to a government hospital. Sent him photos of her in the ward etc. Phone went awful quiet when I told him Thais get free medical lol

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2 hours ago, Kenny202 said:

I know this for first hand. Had an ex who had it. All free. In fact it could be her 5555. Chatting to a friend of mine in oz the other day hes been sending his Thai gf serious sums of money for operations. I asked him why she was going to a private hospital and not a government hospital? He told me she was going to a government hospital. Sent him photos of her in the ward etc. Phone went awful quiet when I told him Thais get free medical lol

Thais do not get free medical this is a myth.  I know countless Thais who have had surgery or care at a hospital and every one had to pay.  If fact one was the nephew of a senior nurse and he still had to pay.  All were low income. 

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19 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Absolute, total and utter rubbish with all due respect. The only way a Thai has to pay is if they do not go to the government hospital to which they have been assigned or they choose to go to a private hospital with no insurance. My son was born in a government hospital here, my GF had a major operation on her leg last year motorbike accident, and a ton of follow up, and a previous GF had an ongoing chronic issue were she spent lots of time at the hospital, as an outpatient and admitted. The only thing thy have to pay is 30 baht

I would say your post is rubbish.  Perhaps you were lucky enought to get free service at some point but I can tell you that I have seen poor thais pay for charges at government hospitals many times.

 

How long have you lived here? Tell me one Thai govt program not open to corruption?

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30 minutes ago, Kenny202 said:

Absolute, total and utter rubbish with all due respect. The only way a Thai has to pay is if they do not go to the government hospital to which they have been assigned or they choose to go to a private hospital with no insurance. My son was born in a government hospital here, my GF had a major operation on her leg last year motorbike accident, and a ton of follow up, and a previous GF had an ongoing chronic issue were she spent lots of time at the hospital, as an outpatient and admitted. The only thing thy have to pay is 30 baht

Thais do get almost free medical. It is one of their greatest achievement. As other members have said, they must go to the hospital they are assigned to. For a serious disease like HIV, she must change her assigned hospital which is also possible but may not be easy. Even if she goes to an unassigned hospital, as  a Thai she pays very little. They pay a little if they want to upgrade to VIP room for a overnight stay, or if she wants to get something expensive done like an MRI for a headache which a doctor thinks not required. 

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1 minute ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

she must change her assigned hospital

This is a reason they often end up paying - the assigned hospital can be 100's of miles away from where they now live and the address has never been changed, then they crash the motorbike and suddenly there's a bill that needs paying.

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19 minutes ago, CartagenaWarlock said:

Thais do get almost free medical. It is one of their greatest achievement. As other members have said, they must go to the hospital they are assigned to. For a serious disease like HIV, she must change her assigned hospital which is also possible but may not be easy. Even if she goes to an unassigned hospital, as  a Thai she pays very little. They pay a little if they want to upgrade to VIP room for a overnight stay, or if she wants to get something expensive done like an MRI for a headache which a doctor thinks not required. 

Look I dated a gal who was a senior nurse at a govt hospital in a large Thai city.  Her nephew had a motorbike accident and broke a finger.  He was  a poor engineering student.  She escorted him to the government run hospital that she works at. I said to her "gee that's good to have 30 baht care".  She replied she had to pay two thousand baht. She is one of the most honest individuals I have ever met and does not lie. Nor did she ask me for money.  There may be instances where the 30 baht is applied but it is by no means universal.

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37 minutes ago, tlandtday said:

I would say your post is rubbish.  Perhaps you were lucky enought to get free service at some point but I can tell you that I have seen poor thais pay for charges at government hospitals many times.

 

How long have you lived here? Tell me one Thai govt program not open to corruption?

What the hell are you talking about? Ive lived here 8 years. Corruption? Thais get free medical if they go to their assigned hospital. The only way they have to pay is if they choose a different hospital and possibly if they have an accident without compulsory tax / insurance. You and your "I know a friend" lol. What a crock. Like a child at the kiddies table trying to get in on the conversation 5555. You dont know what your talking about and now your just making up stories to shore up your ridiculous nonsense fairy tales. Have a look what the other posters have said. Ive had 3 family members in hospital, moved medical to a different province with them. Not a "gal" or a friend of a friend or I read somewhere. Your fantasies arent factual and particularly when referring to medical dealings toxic. Not once did I say I get free medical. Foreigners pay

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1 hour ago, tlandtday said:

Look I dated a gal who was a senior nurse at a govt hospital in a large Thai city.  Her nephew had a motorbike accident and broke a finger.  He was  a poor engineering student.  She escorted him to the government run hospital that she works at. I said to her "gee that's good to have 30 baht care".  She replied she had to pay two thousand baht. She is one of the most honest individuals I have ever met and does not lie. Nor did she ask me for money.  There may be instances where the 30 baht is applied but it is by no means universal.

You guys always lard out your unbelievable stories with ridiculous statements such as "poor Engineering student". I for one have never met a poor engineering student, his folks would be stumping up around 150k a year for fees alone let alone accomodation etc. And please don't plunge yourself in deeper with the back story of the poor rice picker from Baan Nok nowhere who won the scholarship etc lol. Your comments about free medical a myth and seen people pay many times are in fact rubbish. I think we all agree that under some circumstances they need to pay but it isn't the norm and it isn't a myth. Or scenario 2 maybe you yourself got duped. You said she didn't ask you to pay but you never said who did 5555. You do realise they never ask you to pay, well not directly anyway. She would have told you stories of how she wont be able to eat for a week, and wont be able to buy milk for her baby, but it will be ok....that's when you put your hand in your pocket hahaha. 

 

My mother always said, better to keep your mouth shut and possibly appear stupid, rather than open your mouth and remove all doubt. Normally I would not engage in a battle of wits with someone such as yourself, as you are clearly fighting unarmed, but far too many like you on TV spreading misinformation. Possibly how the OP got duped in the first place. If you want to tell stories go to farang pub forum. This is a specific medical forum and replies should be factual. 

 

I got a 3yo son tells better story and flips me better fibs than you do lol

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