Authorities ponder pleas from struggling airlines

[webfact]

Authorities ponder pleas from struggling airlines

By THE NATION

 

CAAT director-general Chula Sukmanop

 

The Civil Aviation Authority of Thailand (CAAT) will ask the Civil Aviation Board when it meets on March 6 to consider measures proposed by some 20 airlines suffering the effects of the COVID-19 virus outbreak.

 

CAAT director-general Chula Sukmanop said on Wednesday (February 25) that one proposal is for a 50-per-cent reduction through year’s end in fees charged to the airlines – for landing, parking, office rentals and other services.

 

Others would see the two-week process for approving requests for flight adjustments shortened and passenger-service charges halved to encourage more people to fly.

 

Nearly 9,800 flights to Thailand scheduled for March have been cancelled, representing a loss of three million passengers, Chula said.

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/business/30382906?utm_source=homepage_hilight&utm_medium=internal_referral

 

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[Marknreston]

LOL. How does this story not directly contradict the previous story regarding tourism numbers.  Amazing 

[mtls2005]

Health Minister:

 

At the briefing, the health minister again discouraged Thais from unnecessary travel. "For the airlines, please reduce promotions," Mr Anutin said.

"Even though tickets are cheap, it could be your last holiday."

 

 

New TAT tag-line: Come to Thailand, it could be your last holiday

 

 

9 minutes ago, Marknreston said:

LOL. How does this story not directly contradict the previous story regarding tourism numbers.  Amazing 

 

Various "government" factotums largely out of their depth, wandering around the yard like chickens. Not really amazing, but surely expected.

 

They do fine until something happens, then it's stage a coup, kill your own citizens, run the country into the ground, draft a new constitution. Rinse, repeat

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited February 27, 2020 by mtls2005

[Burma Bill]

Quote:-

"Nearly 9,800 flights to Thailand scheduled for March have been cancelled"

I wonder how TAT will juggle figures to show in increase - fake news possibly!!

[digger70]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Authorities ponder pleas from struggling airlines

Wow , is there no end to those Go fund me Cries  here?  A new one cries/begs every few days . For Satans sake they running a Business . I can't pay my Bentleys payments I lost  2 days work per week for the last 2 months, Can I ask the Government to cut the monthly Repayments by 50% till my boss can give more work maybe in 6 months time ? Yea Right What a lot of no hopers they are.

[Rancid]

Hmm, reminds me of the US years ago bailing out banks, car companies and insurance companies. The rich all hate socialism, except when its for them. Of course countries bailing out dead businesses pay for it from taxes, so of course the bill gets paid later by all the taxpayers.

 

If a company dies and the government considers it in the national interest then nationalize it, no CEO golden parachutes and shareholder bailouts.

[spidermike007]

7 minutes ago, Rancid said:

Hmm, reminds me of the US years ago bailing out banks, car companies and insurance companies. The rich all hate socialism, except when its for them. Of course countries bailing out dead businesses pay for it from taxes, so of course the bill gets paid later by all the taxpayers.

 

If a company dies and the government considers it in the national interest then nationalize it, no CEO golden parachutes and shareholder bailouts.

Anything, absolutely anything to avoid letting some air out of the hot balloon. Had they allowed many of the banks and companies to fail, back in 2007-2008, the economy might have been far more fundamentally sound right now. It is teetering. 

[Forza2002]

Nearly 9,800 flights to Thailand scheduled for March have been cancelled, representing a loss of three million passengers, Chula said. That's an average just over 300 passengers for each flight??

 

[DannyCarlton]

1 hour ago, Burma Bill said:

Quote:-

"Nearly 9,800 flights to Thailand scheduled for March have been cancelled"

I wonder how TAT will juggle figures to show in increase - fake news possibly!!

In future all tourists will arrive on cruise ships.

 

BTW. Thai news reporting that Air Asia is suspending operations for 3 months.

[Bangkok Barry]

4 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

BTW. Thai news reporting that Air Asia is suspending operations for 3 months.

 

Source? Nothing on Google news.

[mtls2005]

People don't want to fly. Some to avoid the virus, others to avoid getting stuck somewhere.

 

The PSC (700 THB intl) is buried in the ticket price, passengers hardly make travel decisions based on this, or to save 350 THB.

 

Passengers don't pay landing fees, parking fees, etc.

 

Repeat: People do not want to fly, I doubt FAs and pilots want to either? No amount of incentives will get people to want to fly. And we're told by the "authorities" (some of them anyway)  that we should stay home and not take advantage of low fares.

 

The ineptitude here is always eye-opening, perhaps never moreso that during crises.

 

 

 

[sammieuk1]

Sure 40 million arrivals will now just walk in to save the day and a face or two ????

[miamiman123]

But we got the Indians and Russians coming ..?hahahaga 

crazy as barn yard rats on a leaky raft floating down the Mekong river in a thunder storm on a sunny day eating bananas for lunch! 

[DannyCarlton]

3 minutes ago, miamiman123 said:

But we got the Indians and Russians coming ..?hahahaga 

crazy as barn yard rats on a leaky raft floating down the Mekong river in a thunder storm on a sunny day eating bananas for lunch! 

Seem to be less Indians not more. More Russians but usually come with family/girlfriend. Keep themselves to themselves and few problems.

[ivor bigun]

Greta is dancing with delight ,mind you walking around the world to each protest is going to take her years.

[stouricks]

51 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Passengers don't pay landing fees, parking fees, etc.

Who DOES pay them then, please?

[mtls2005]

2 minutes ago, stouricks said:

Who DOES pay them then, please?

 

Airlines.

 

 

[stouricks]

1 minute ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Airlines.

 

 

And who pray tell me pays the airlines?

[mtls2005]

1 minute ago, stouricks said:

And who pray tell me pays the airlines?

 

Passengers.

 

 

But passengers do not pay AoT for landing fees, parking fees, et al. (Passengers do pay the PSC, as a separate line item on a ticket, but it is buried.)

 

Your next question will attempt to link "costs" with "fares". Feel free to go there.

 

 

 

 

[stouricks]

6 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

Passengers.

 

 

But passengers do not pay AoT for landing fees, parking fees, et al. (Passengers do pay the PSC, as a separate line item on a ticket, but it is buried.)

 

Your next question will attempt to link "costs" with "fares". Feel free to go there.

 

 

 

 

I shall go there. Where do the airlines get the money to pay the landing fees etc from? If passengers pay the PSC, do the airlines not use some of that, or a bit of the ticket price, or profit from selling a Mama noodle on board, to pay those fees.

Edited February 27, 2020 by stouricks

[mtls2005]

3 minutes ago, stouricks said:

If passengers pay the PSC, do the airlines not use some of that

 

No. Airlines pass all of the PSC to AoT. That's why it is a separate line item, coded as "TS".

 

 

 

 

[stouricks]

4 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

No. Airlines pass all of the PSC to AoT. That's why it is a separate line item, coded as "TS".

 

 

 

 

Whatever you want to say, the money to pay for landing fees etc has come from THE PASSENGERS, however it may be coded.

Edited February 27, 2020 by stouricks

[mtls2005]

22 minutes ago, stouricks said:

Whatever you want to say, the money to pay for landing fees etc has come from THE PASSENGERS, however it may be coded.

 

You're confusing landing fees, parking fees, etc. which the airport authority (entity operating the airport) charge airlines, with the PSC. These are not at all related.

 

I guess my point is that reducing operating costs to the airlines does not equate to more passengers. It can. It may. It might. But so many factors go into ticket prices. I won't even go into the 15 different fare buckets in economy.

 

And if people do not want to fly they will not be tempted by slightly lower prices. That's why these "proclamations" are so silly.

 

 

[mtls2005]

31 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

 

No. Airlines pass all of the PSC to AoT. That's why it is a separate line item, coded as "TS".

 

 

 

 

 

Back in the day we had to pay this in cash (baht) upon departure. It was called a Departure Tax. It was viewed generally as a PITA, people had to save 500 baht to pay, so it was added into the price of the ticket. And bumped to 700 baht. Some blah blah blah about bumping it up to 800 baht, but no action. Assume it will go up soon.

[cracker1]

• Thai Airways Promotions from their Web Page today (27 Feb 2020) Let us take you to heavily infectious cities in Asia !
• FLIGHTS FROM BANGKOK TO OSAKA
• FLIGHTS FROM BANGKOK TO SEOUL
• FLIGHTS FROM BANGKOK TO TAIPEI
• FLIGHTS FROM BANGKOK TO HANEDA
• FLIGHTS FROM BANGKOK TO SAPPORO
• FLIGHTS FROM BANGKOK TO GUANGZHOU

[Krataiboy]

The climate change alarmists must be laughing themselves silly.

 

They've been desperately trying to persude us all not to fly. Now a little virus is doing the job for them.

 

Wait a minute. . .

 

No, surely not!

Edited February 27, 2020 by Krataiboy

[billd766]

6 hours ago, Forza2002 said:

Nearly 9,800 flights to Thailand scheduled for March have been cancelled, representing a loss of three million passengers, Chula said. That's an average just over 300 passengers for each flight??

 

That is 316 flights and 96,775 passengers per day.