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Hello ,all

maybe somebody from TV members can advice.

I have a Filipino young lady and want to bring her to Thailand for a long time.

The first try to pass the border was unsuccessful and Philippines immigration doesn't allow her to pass their border.

I think there are 2 options to use now.

1.To get a work permit [very hard and expensive];

2.To bring her to Lao or Cambodia as a member of a tourist group [5-7 days] ,I hope this will be much easier and then receive a visa to Thailand in the consulate of Thailand in that countries with a help of agents.

What do you think?

Has anybody any experience in this field?

Thanks and sorry for bad English,the world is so big...

 

 

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If the Phillipines immigration wont let her leave how is she going to go anywhere ?

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Get advice from an immigration lawyer in the Philippines. It is well known that (especially young single female) Philippine citizens have a hard time getting permission to leave, but there are ways. As I understand it, going through an official course that advises Filipinas on what they are allowed to do and how to stay safe is viewed as an important step by Philippine immigration.

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A suggestion has been mentioned before is to do a affidavit of support for her that can help overcome the hurdles put up by Philippine immigration.

See: https://bangkokpe.dfa.gov.ph/consular-office/services/notarial-services/affidavit-of-support

Download for it is here. https://bangkokpe.dfa.gov.ph/images/consular/affidavit/Affidavit-of-Support.pdf

It may even help when applying for a tourist visa at the Thai embassy.

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Different port, different time she'll be allowed to leave. Just bring her in via Singapore, they are very relaxed with Filipinas. Start with a tourist visa, then if it works out you can apply for a martial arts ED visa for her for one year in Chiang Mai.

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17 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Different port, different time she'll be allowed to leave. Just bring her in via Singapore, they are very relaxed with Filipinas. Start with a tourist visa, then if it works out you can apply for a martial arts ED visa for her for one year in Chiang Mai.

He's not worried about getting her into Thailand, but OUT of the Philippines. This is the hard part and I suspect with Duterte it's getting even harder... for unemployed, uneducated, and poor young ladies to leave. There have been too many cases of abuse abroad and they do this to protect their citizens. It's very hard to give advise on this as the situation constantly changes. You need to find someone who has done this recently.

 

Your relationship with the Filipino is the key. They need to know you're in a genuine relationship with the lady. Prove financial support over a period of time. Put some money (not 10 pesos) on her bank account. Show some history together. Get a letter from her parents. It's a Catholic country, so they frown upon relationships outside of marriage. It's still illegal to have sex with another if you're married, so that should give you an idea of the mentality you're up against. There is no divorce. Illegitimacy is still a thing. It's a whole different mindset in the Philippines (compared to Thailand).

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It's not hard at all. It just depends on the individual immigration officer. Just a matter of trying a different place. I had an unemployed, uneducated and poor young Filipina leave many times, without issues. She doesn't need money in her bank account either, just a letter of support from you.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Logosone said:

It's not hard at all. It just depends on the individual immigration officer. Just a matter of trying a different place. I had an unemployed, uneducated and poor young Filipina leave many times, without issues. She doesn't need money in her bank account either, just a letter of support from you.

 

 

It is notoriously difficult, even with support letters. If you are with her, they will ask her questions in her language, and ask you questions. You'll get quite an interview asking a number of personal questions (you won't know what they asked her unless you understand Tagalog) and may possibly be escorted to an interview room to be interviewed by the senior officer (this happened to me once). Just a support letter without your presence and no money in the bank - absolutely no chance at all. They are not stupid - anyone can write a support letter. If the girl hasn't got a decent amount of cash (at least 20,000 peso) on her, they'll even ask her to go and withdraw the money from an ATM at the airport. I've personally witnessed this at NAIA. All the Immigration officers have the same policy, but so what? You can't try a different window if you've been knocked back. She'd blow her ticket, hotel accommodation and the cost of transport to the airport from whatever province she is from. That could involve a long sea trip, bus trip or domestic flight. Are you suggesting the girl should try different airports (Cebu, Clark and Manila) in the hope she will be able to get through? Clark is more difficult than Manila due the number of bar girls that live there.

 

Obviously the OP needs reliable information from someone who has done this recently. I don't think they just want to keep trying "different places" (whatever that is supposed to mean), hoping they might be successful. I managed with my then girlfriend really easily once, but that was 15 years ago. Times have changed.

 

I remember years ago speaking to a girl about the problems she had leaving the Philippines to meet up with her boyfriend in Thailand. She tried I think 3 times without success. They knocked her back just because she looked too young. They didn't believe her passport age. In the end he had to come and get her. If they say "no", it's no, no matter how unreasonable it may seem. It's a good idea to do your homework before you try.

 

You will definitely need proof of hotel accommodation, a return ticket, and a travel itinerary. A tourist visa would be an advantage too, at both ends.

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On 2/29/2020 at 12:44 AM, tropo said:

It is notoriously difficult, even with support letters. If you are with her, they will ask her questions in her language, and ask you questions. You'll get quite an interview asking a number of personal questions (you won't know what they asked her unless you understand Tagalog) and may possibly be escorted to an interview room to be interviewed by the senior officer (this happened to me once). Just a support letter without your presence and no money in the bank - absolutely no chance at all. They are not stupid - anyone can write a support letter. If the girl hasn't got a decent amount of cash (at least 20,000 peso) on her, they'll even ask her to go and withdraw the money from an ATM at the airport. I've personally witnessed this at NAIA. All the Immigration officers have the same policy, but so what? You can't try a different window if you've been knocked back. She'd blow her ticket, hotel accommodation and the cost of transport to the airport from whatever province she is from. That could involve a long sea trip, bus trip or domestic flight. Are you suggesting the girl should try different airports (Cebu, Clark and Manila) in the hope she will be able to get through? Clark is more difficult than Manila due the number of bar girls that live there.

 

Obviously the OP needs reliable information from someone who has done this recently. I don't think they just want to keep trying "different places" (whatever that is supposed to mean), hoping they might be successful. I managed with my then girlfriend really easily once, but that was 15 years ago. Times have changed.

 

I remember years ago speaking to a girl about the problems she had leaving the Philippines to meet up with her boyfriend in Thailand. She tried I think 3 times without success. They knocked her back just because she looked too young. They didn't believe her passport age. In the end he had to come and get her. If they say "no", it's no, no matter how unreasonable it may seem. It's a good idea to do your homework before you try.

 

You will definitely need proof of hotel accommodation, a return ticket, and a travel itinerary. A tourist visa would be an advantage too, at both ends.

I know there is this internet rumour that it's notoriously difficult. All I can tell you is that I've done this in 2018, I booked the ticket, did a letter of financial support and she did not get a visa before flying to Bangkok, she did not have a huge amount of cash and was not asked to produce any. She also was paranoid that they wouldn't let her leave, but there was no problem at all. It very much depends on what kind of immigration officer you have in front of you. To be fair she was 29 at the time, so not 20, maybe it would have been harder for a 20 year old. I can't comment on being with her, I've only ever had her come to me. And it was ALWAYS, ALWAYS without problems, though she raised all kinds of hell about being afraid to leave.

 

Obviously travel within Philippines is absolutely free. If an instance arose where this girl would have been refused in Davao airport say, she could have travelled to Manila or Cebu instead and tried there. There are plenty of options for leaving the Philippines. Travel within Philippines is very inexpensive.

 

It would make sense that Clark is more difficult, but leaving from Davao, I've had her leave from there about 8 times. Never an issue.

 

Yes, of course she'll need proof of accomodation, return ticket and travel itinerary, but she'd need that anyway to get the visa in Thailand.

 

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