Jonathan99 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) My gf is in one of islands in Thailand and staying there for a while and bought a cheap bike with no green book. The deed has been done already. My question now - if the bike happens to be stolen and police stops her and check the registration , can she get into some kind of troubles besides a fine and the bike being taken from her ? We don’t care so much about the money as it was a cheap bike, but I don’t want her to get into some kind of troubles driving a stolen scooter. Thanks In advance for any help Edited February 28, 2020 by Jonathan99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Is it stolen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan99 Posted February 28, 2020 Author Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Kwasaki said: Is it stolen? I really hope it’s not , owner told her he just lost the green book, but I guess buying one without a green book You always Run the risk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jonathan99 said: I don’t want her to get into some kind of troubles driving a stolen scooter. Buy her one with a green book that is fully legal..you might take a chance and ask at the Local police station if they can check if the bike is stolen or at the Department of Land transportation..its still risky best to never buy a bike without a green book unless its never ever going to be on the public roads again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Peterw42 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 It appear your girlfriend has not purchased a bike, she has given someone some money and is driving around on a bike of unknown ownership. So long as the tax sticker is paid up to date, police wouldn't be asking to see the green book or proof of ownership etc. Always a risk that the actual owner may report stolen 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, Peterw42 said: police wouldn't be asking to see the green book or proof of ownership etc. Well they do ask to see at least a copy of green book in some places like Pattaya. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Does that mean you paid for it ? 10/1 it's stolen. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, johng said: Well they do ask to see at least a copy of green book in some places like Pattaya. Yes, thats right, technically you are supposed to carry a copy but usually not something police ask for, unless its looking for donations in expat areas. Most of the time a license and current tax sticker is enough for a checkpoint. Even if the OPs GF had the green book/copy, it doesn't constitute ownership. If her name isn't in the greenbook, she still doesn't own it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 16 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: So long as the tax sticker is paid up to date Which you can't renew without green book. So she might get fined for driving an un-taxed bike. If she gets into an accident then insurance doesn't cover either. If the bike is stolen she might have some explaining/proving to do with the police as well. I hope she has at least some proof of purchase with the ID card of the previous "owner". The story about green book lost is always fishy. Not a huge hassle to get a new one from the DLT if one really wanted. I'd never ever purchase a bike or car without book. Immediate red flag. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, johng said: Well they do ask to see at least a copy of green book in some places like Pattaya. If it's legal like the person she bought off she can get a new book from DLT, don't see why all the gloom and doom, she is on an island. Copy of house book of bike owner, copy of I'D card, recept of of payment and off to DLT. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 Island life can be different...don't worry too much...in the unlikely event she's stopped, a smile and a few red ones, she'll be on her way 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: she can get a new book from DLT, Yes but if its so easy ..why did the seller not get a new green book themself and so be able to ask more money for the bike ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bkk6060 Posted February 28, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, johng said: Well they do ask to see at least a copy of green book in some places like Pattaya. Lived here for 5 years been stopped probably 50 times not once asked for a green book. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, eisfeld said: Which you can't renew without green book. So she might get fined for driving an un-taxed bike. If she gets into an accident then insurance doesn't cover either. If the bike is stolen she might have some explaining/proving to do with the police as well. I hope she has at least some proof of purchase with the ID card of the previous "owner". The story about green book lost is always fishy. Not a huge hassle to get a new one from the DLT if one really wanted. I'd never ever purchase a bike or car without book. Immediate red flag. OP's g/f can tax & insure if she gets paperwork from the previous owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkk6060 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, johng said: Well they do ask to see at least a copy of green book in some places like Pattaya. Lived here for 5 years been stopped probably 50 times not once asked for a green book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Just now, bkk6060 said: Lived here for 5 years been stopped probably 50 times not once asked for a green book. Lived in Pattaya ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, johng said: Yes but if its so easy ..why did the seller not get a new green book themself and so be able to ask more money for the bike ? No money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: If it's legal like the person she bought off she can get a new book from DLT, don't see why all the gloom and doom, she is on an island. Copy of house book of bike owner, copy of I'D card, recept of of payment and off to DLT. Without a green book, you dont know who the owner is. Not much use having housebook and ID for someone who isnt the owner, or worse, when the owner in the green book is Honda finance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Kwasaki said: No money. Ahh yes no money no honey eerrrr I mean green book ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: OP's g/f can tax & insure if she gets paperwork from the previous owner. Really? They always required the green book when I wanted to renew the road tax. Isn't it even printed into the book? I don't have one right now to check. Just now, Kwasaki said: No money. Doesn't cost that much I'd assume? At least the seller should be open to getting a new book after the sale, worst case the buyer covers the cost. If the seller doesn't want to do that then I'd strongly suspect something is amiss. The bike could also be still on finance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: Without a green book, you dont know who the owner is. Not much use having housebook and ID for someone who isnt the owner, or worse, when the owner in the green book is Honda finance. Well ever heard of a number plate and a visit to DLT will reveal all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 minute ago, eisfeld said: Really? They always required the green book when I wanted to renew the road tax. Isn't it even printed into the book? I don't have one right now to check. Doesn't cost that much I'd assume? At least the seller should be open to getting a new book after the sale, worst case the buyer covers the cost. If the seller doesn't want to do that then I'd strongly suspect something is amiss. The bike could also be still on finance. You all and most are missing the point, g/f goes DLT for new book and renews tax & insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: You all and most are missing the point, g/f goes DLT for new book and renews tax & insurance. Don't think I missed the point. I strongly suggest to get a new green book. Only saying that if the previous "owner" doesn't play ball then something is wrong. It's not too much effort to get a new book from the DLT. BTW they might want a "lost greenbook" police report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: You all and most are missing the point, g/f goes DLT for new book and renews tax & insurance. But the DLT wont be giving the GF a replacement green book, she isnt the owner. Thats no different to me taking my neighbors bike and going to the DLT and asking for a green book., Even if the GF goes to the DLT and confirms the person she gave money to is indeed the owner, she still wont have a green book and she still doesnt own the bike. Until the owner can produce a greenbook (with their name in it), the bike cannot be sold, the tax cannot be payed. Edited February 28, 2020 by Peterw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve187 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 a vehicle can be taxed with a copy of the green/blue book if on finance the company will hold onto the book and supply a copy, does the bike have a number plate so either stole or still on finance or a lazy previous owner, take your pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Peterw42 said: But the DLT wont be giving the GF a replacement green book, she isnt the owner. Thats no different to me taking my neighbors bike and going to the DLT and asking for a green book., Even if the GF goes to the DLT and confirms the person she gave money to is indeed the owner, she still wont have a green book and she still doesnt own the bike. Until the owner can produce a greenbook (with their name in it), the bike cannot be sold, the tax cannot be payed. No not at my DLT maybe yours. Well I got a new green book for my bike just needed the owners paperwork and a trip to DLT . It's the same procedure if book is lost but as said green book police report lost may be required by DLT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 She just "borrowed" it from somebody and forgot where she was. That can happen after so many drugs and alc. Hicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominion Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Would you buy a bike from your home country without the document. I'm sure you wouldn't. Same rules apply here that is why in Thailand they have a green book. My advise to you is not to ride it and get rid of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhaoYai Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Kwasaki said: Well ever heard of a number plate and a visit to DLT will reveal all. Correct. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Maybe her thai boyfriend gave it to her and she invented a purchase story hence why she didn't tell you until afterwards. Has to be stolen so won't be able to get tax and insurance in future, fine 2000 baht? i think it went up but I'm not sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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