If you’re healthy, a cotton mask will do

[webfact 86012]

If you’re healthy, a cotton mask will do

By The Nation

 

 

The number of confirmed Covid-19 virus infections in Thailand remained unchanged at 43 on Wednesday (March 4), with 31 people recovered, 11 still under medical care and one death, the Public Health Ministry reported.

 

It noted that Thailand ranks 17 among countries and territories globally for the number of cases confirmed. 

 

Citing a shortage of top-grade surgical masks, Dr Bancha Khakhong, deputy chief of the ministry’s Department of Health, said people showing no flu-like symptoms can feel safe wearing simple cloth masks.

 

 

They can even make their own, he said, using cotton or “salu cotton”, which have the benefit of shrinking in mesh size the more they’re washed, right down to the width of one micron. 

 

Even the simplest cotton mask can prevent 54-59 per cent of airborne germs from entering the respiratory system, which is sufficient for preventing virus infection in healthy persons, Bancha said.

 

Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha meanwhile said the government had established a second Covid-19 surveillance and management centre to share the workload of the one at the Health Ministry.

 

He made the remark after a meeting of state agencies on the return of thousands of Thai labourers from South Korea.

 

“Many people have been worried about phi noi being allowed to self-quarantine,” he said, using the term “little ghost”, a name for Thais working illegally overseas. 

 

“The government has issued a clear requirement for all those returning from Daegu and North Gyeongsang province [South Korea’s hardest-hit locales] to be quarantined in government facilities for 14 days.”

 

 

Source: https://www.nationthailand.com/news/30383354

 

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[unamazedloso 5080]

Um, im not bothering to read it. In other words no mask is fine if your healthy!! The filter itself doesnt filter down the strength of the virus idiot. This IS fake news to those smart enough to have a little common sense....

[rodknock 388]

read the u.s. cdc notices. they say the masks will not stop virus.

the mask is good for smog particles.

[ianezy0 2192]

I agree. Something to cover your mouth and be regularly disposed  of should suffice at this moment in time.

A lot of you posters should do this. It might muffle the whinging a little

But I love you all really!

[Nyezhov 15283]

I use a paisley bandanna cowboy style, which has the extra advantage of making me look mean, albiet not lean.

[sapson 1554]

So its all under control you can believe the daily [email protected] government statements...............

 

Yet it seems that every pharmacy in my area has a no masks available sign and the millions that were supposed to be made available at 7/11s have vanished.

 

So if you are at risk due to age or having to be amongst a crowd etc or with a sick person or visiting a hospital or simply wanting a mask to protect from the air quality you cant ......... unless you have a sewing machine to hand.

 

Stunning planning and logistics by the half wits.

 

The ministers couldnt get pished in a brewery or get laid in Pattaya even if their were five thousand working girls! 

Edited March 4, 2020 by sapson

[TallGuyJohninBKK 26594]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

Even the simplest cotton mask can prevent 54-59 per cent of airborne germs from entering the respiratory system, which is sufficient for preventing virus infection in healthy persons, Bancha said.

 

I have no idea where he's getting that percentage range or assumption from. Never heard such a claim before.

 

But I do know, the WHO does NOT recommend people to wear cloth masks, probably out of concern that they won't be regularly cleaned and disinfected. (And of course, cloth masks do nothing for preventing inhaling of PM2.5 air pollution).

 

Kinda funny how the Thai authorities all of a sudden start talking about cloth masks now when, despite everything being "under control," there continue to be widespread shortages of even the crummy paper drugstore face masks that they claimed they could produce enough of locally, not to mention hand cleaning gel and all kinds of other health/disinfecting related products.

 

Maybe time to get out that old beggar's cup again and start asking Big Brother China for some more help or hand-me-downs, because clearly Thailand can't handle the situation on its own.

 

[ianezy0 2192]

2 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

But I do know, the WHO does NOT recommend people to wear cloth masks, probably out of concern that they won't be regularly cleaned and disinfected. (And of course, cloth masks do nothing for preventing inhaling of PM2.5 air pollution).

Why bash the Thai's when WHO is not recommending wearing a mask, either cloth or N95. Surely something around your mouth is better than nothing, which Thailand is suggesting? Many differing opinions out there huh.

 

Follow the link for further WHO info....29 Jan 2020.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/documents/advice-on-the-use-of-masks-2019-ncov.pdf

 

Here is an excerpt from the link - WHO:

• -  a medical mask is not required, as no evidence is

  available on its usefulness to protect non-sick persons. However, masks might be worn in some countries according to local cultural habits. If masks are used, best practices should be followed on how to wear, remove, and dispose of them and on hand hygiene action after removal (see below advice regarding appropriate mask management).

Another Website below:

 

 

[Lacessit 23530]

Coronavirus is far more likely to be transmitted via surfaces. Western medical authorities recommend avoiding touching the face. Given the number of nosepickers in Thailand, it's a fair bet the spread is inevitable.

[DrTuner 24558]

And, if you don't clean that mask after use, you won't be healthy for a long as it becomes a moist petri dish for bacteria to grow on. 

[TallGuyJohninBKK 26594]

16 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

Why bash the Thai's when WHO is not recommending wearing a mask, either cloth or N95. Surely something around your mouth is better than nothing, which Thailand is suggesting? Many differing opinions out there huh.

 

There's a huge difference between claiming people shouldn't wear masks because they might not be effective vs. because they are effective but someone has decided you really don't need one.

 

The U.S. CDC absolutely and strongly recommends that all emergency services personnel who may deal with potential or actual CV cases should wear masks, face protection, gowns, gloves, etc. Because, the masks and other PPE (personnel protective equipment) DO work in preventing their exposure to the virus -- if the PPE is worn and handled properly.

 

The same notion absolutely would apply to any general member of the public who's in a situation/place where they have the potential to come into contact with potential or actual CV positive people.  Except, because there's a worldwide shortage of such PPE, the various medical authorities are taking the public position, in essence, that medical workers need the masks and other equipment more than the general public does. Thus the public message delivered by some like the WHO, you don't really need to wear a mask.

 

Well, in my case, I have my own stock of N95 masks that pre-dated the whole CV outbreak (because of terrible PM2.5 air pollution in Thailand). So I'm not taking masks away from anyone else who needs them. But as I've said throughout this entire ordeal, if the masks are good enough for health care workers, then they're good enough for me too. And I do know how to properly fit and wear them, even though a lot of the authorities somehow think that's beyond the comprehension of an average citizen.

 

As for cloth masks, I think the reason they tend to get negative reviews is the re-use element, and users not necessarily handling them in a way that ensures they're clean and sanitary with each successive use. Whereas with disposable N95 or drugstore masks, you wear the mask a couple of times and then discard it for a fresh one, ensuring your facewear is going to be reasonably sanitary on an ongoing basis.

 

From Newsweek:

Quote

 

The WHO estimated that 89 million medical masks, 76 million gloves and 1.6 million goggles would be needed each month for health care workers to respond to the outbreak. Without protecting people on the front line, it will be impossible to stop COVID-19, according to Ghebreyesus.

"WHO has shipped nearly half a million sets of personal protective equipment to 27 countries but supplies are rapidly depleting," Ghebreyesus said. "Supplies can take months to deliver, market manipulation is widespread and stocks are often sold to the highest bidder."

 

 

[NCC1701A 54617]

all first responders in the USA must now wear masks and gloves.

 

meanwhile in Thailand.

 

 

[ianezy0 2192]

12 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Well, in my case, I have my own stock of N95 masks that pre-dated the whole CV outbreak (because of terrible PM2.5 air pollution in Thailand). So I'm not taking masks away from anyone else who needs them. But as I've said throughout this entire ordeal, if the masks are good enough for health care workers, then they're good enough for me too. And I do know how to properly fit and wear them, even though a lot of the authorities somehow think that's beyond the comprehension of an average citizen.

 

As for cloth masks, I think the reason they tend to get negative reviews is the re-use element, and users not necessarily handling them in a way that ensures they're clean and sanitary with each successive use. Whereas with disposable N95 or drugstore masks, you wear the mask a couple of times and then discard it for a fresh one, ensuring your facewear is going to be reasonably sanitary on an ongoing basis.

 

From Newsweek:

 

Good post mate.

I also bought a stock of N95 masks bcos of the air quality, plus some hand gel, for some reason, before this outbreak! 

[ianezy0 2192]

1 minute ago, NCC1701A said:

all first responders in the USA must now wear masks and gloves.

 

meanwhile in Thailand.

 

 

PK2.5, Covid 19, tear gas, sewage work.....this mask is for me

[pdtokyo 557]

54 minutes ago, ianezy0 said:

<snip> Surely something around your mouth is better than nothing <snip>

Not at all ... as someone said earlier ... having something around your mouth that is not regularly cleaned will actually accumulate narsties.

 

Me? i prefer to stroll around Bangkok facially naked and allow my natural reflexes to kick in ... hacking and coughing and spitting freely. Always get a seat on BTS, even without my fake Baby On Board sticker.  

[Yadon Toploy 2284]

1 hour ago, ianezy0 said:

Why bash the Thai's when WHO is not recommending wearing a mask, either cloth or N95. Surely something around your mouth is better than nothing, which Thailand is suggesting? Many differing opinions out there huh.

 

Follow the link for further WHO info....29 Jan 2020.

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/documents/advice-on-the-use-of-masks-2019-ncov.pdf

 

Here is an excerpt from the link - WHO:

• -  a medical mask is not required, as no evidence is

  available on its usefulness to protect non-sick persons. However, masks might be worn in some countries according to local cultural habits. If masks are used, best practices should be followed on how to wear, remove, and dispose of them and on hand hygiene action after removal (see below advice regarding appropriate mask management).

Another Website below:

 

 

"No evidence they protect."

 

"Cultural habits".

 

Reaffirms my opinion that masks are bogus totems worn by idiots.

 

 

[pdtokyo 557]

3 minutes ago, Yadon Toploy said:

<snip>

"Cultural habits".

Reaffirms my opinion that masks are bogus totems worn by idiots.

 

i stand to be corrected but i believe the habit of wearing surgical masks (outside of surgeries of course) originated in Japan in the 70's, where the primary purpose is for someone who has a cough or cold ... but must still go to work on a crowded subway of course ... to wear a mask to protect and show respect to everyone around him/her ... which seems like a pretty neat cultural habit devised by a smart and considerate group of people.

 

but i have to admit that original concept has been horribly corrupted and the mask is now treated everywhere simply as a defensive weapon ... or to look on the bright side ... handy for bank jobs (''he was about your height and wearing a surgical mask officer'')

[ianezy0 2192]

4 hours ago, Yadon Toploy said:

"No evidence they protect."

 

"Cultural habits".

 

Reaffirms my opinion that masks are bogus totems worn by idiots.

 

 

Why idiots? You must be one of these people with a superiority complex.

[Chazar 8650]

10 hours ago, webfact said:

“little ghost”, a name for Thais working illegally overseas. 

its  not what they call Farangs  doing it though is  it, theyre  pure  scum.

[Salerno 4888]

 

[Tayaout 4119]

7 hours ago, Yadon Toploy said:

"No evidence they protect."

 

"Cultural habits".

 

Reaffirms my opinion that masks are bogus totems worn by idiots.

 

 

Yes they don't protect idiots who can't read between the lines, learn how to use them and take the time to read what research papers by actual scientist have to say. 

Edited March 4, 2020 by Tayaout

[simon43 13668]

8 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

all first responders in the USA must now wear masks and gloves.

 

meanwhile in Thailand.

 

 

Finally I can 'come out' and practice my secret fantasy in public 

[faraday 12378]

12 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

I use a paisley bandanna cowboy style, which has the extra advantage of making me look mean, albiet not lean.

C'mon, let's see another picture, this time without the shades.

[dinsdale 5623]

15 hours ago, webfact said:

They can even make their own, he said, using cotton or “salu cotton”, which have the benefit of shrinking in mesh size the more they’re washed, right down to the width of one micron. 

Wow good idea. The only thing is the virus is smaller than one moron micron. 

[Emdog 6538]

".. people showing no flu-like symptoms can feel safe wearing simple cloth masks."

Key word is feel safe as opposed  to be safe

I'm gonna carry some herbs in my pockets and a new amulet to feel safe. Ought to do the trick

[George Aylesham 480]

14 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

all first responders in the USA must now wear masks and gloves.

 

meanwhile in Thailand.

Very practical and improves the blood circulation a bit further down too!

 

 

[tomauasia 897]

I believe you. By the way how are all the Thai hub of hub break through cures going. 

[AgMech Cowboy 1401]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

...people showing no flu-like symptoms can feel safe...

No mask needed unless air pollution is high in your area.

[tifino 9121]

18 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

I use a paisley bandanna cowboy style, which has the extra advantage of making me look mean, albiet not lean.

you'd 'look' if you found that banks stopped bandanna wearers (not masks) from entering!

[Dustdevil 1167]

The U.S. Surgeon General told the public to stop buying masks.