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2 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

"Masks worn by patients may not offer as great a degree of protection against aerosol transmission"

 

Also from the same article.

Yes they talk about patients spreading aerosol. Not healthy individuals trying to protect themselves. 

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But how many nonsense to advertise himself, because Thailand does not have many patients simply because there is never winter temperatures, the virus develops better in people who are subjected to low temperatures with the antibody defences lowered, it is certainly not because Thai doctors are the best in the world and not even because of incompetent Thai ministers

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On 3/4/2020 at 3:47 PM, unamazedloso said:

Um, im not bothering to read it. In other words no mask is fine if your healthy!! The filter itself doesnt filter down the strength of the virus idiot. This IS fake news to those smart enough to have a little common sense....

Very correct.

It's been know for years that these surgical masks offer no protection for the user.  They DO protect others if the user is ill.

Unfortunately, issuing all these types of statements make it seem that something is actually being done and this is good news.

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20 hours ago, briansbiology said:

never trust anyone who uses the term "germs" to describe pathogens. Scientifically the word germ means life giving and has no relation to viruses and bacteria. s

 

secondly: 54 % of germs blocked.......bacteria are thousands of times bigger than viruses so that means they dont block viruses at all and juts block the larger bacteria.

 

Thirdly: masks are useful in that they can stop a person idly touching their mucous membranes...thus reducing chance of infection; 

 

A mask that any microbiologist would use (yes i have) is the N95 mask. these are larger, uncomfortable, expensive and not practical. everything else is ineffective at stopping airborne viral particles. 

 

 

These muppets must not even consult properly trained microbiologists.....

Wiki contradicts your explanation.

In biology, a pathogen in the oldest and broadest sense, is anything that can produce disease. A pathogen may also be referred to as an infectious agent, or simply a germ. The term pathogen came into use in the 1880s. Wikipedia

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2 hours ago, neeray said:

Wiki contradicts your explanation.

In biology, a pathogen in the oldest and broadest sense, is anything that can produce disease. A pathogen may also be referred to as an infectious agent, or simply a germ. The term pathogen came into use in the 1880s. Wikipedia

nothing is contradicted. again the word germ has a specific meaning in science ...how it may be used is beyond the confines of science. shellfish arent fish is another example of how words are used outside of science incorrectly. 

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17 hours ago, DrTuner said:

And ears have a canal to the nose as well, so no picking them either. Basically, keep your hands away from your head.

 

This might be effective and it's cheap too:

 

I don’t think the majority of people pick inside their ears, but maybe you want headphones or earplugs?

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2 hours ago, Redline said:

I don’t think the majority of people pick inside their ears, but maybe you want headphones or earplugs?

We breathe in through nose, and have mucous inside it which not only allows for an entry but also warm wet environment for breeding, most of us do not inhale through our ears, and not a good breeding ground

 

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On 3/5/2020 at 1:42 PM, briansbiology said:

never trust anyone who uses the term "germs" to describe pathogens. Scientifically the word germ means life giving and has no relation to viruses and bacteria. s

 

secondly: 54 % of germs blocked.......bacteria are thousands of times bigger than viruses so that means they dont block viruses at all and juts block the larger bacteria.

 

Thirdly: masks are useful in that they can stop a person idly touching their mucous membranes...thus reducing chance of infection; 

 

A mask that any microbiologist would use (yes i have) is the N95 mask. these are larger, uncomfortable, expensive and not practical. everything else is ineffective at stopping airborne viral particles. 

 

 

These muppets must not even consult properly trained microbiologists.....

"Thirdly: masks are useful in that they can stop a person idly touching their mucous membranes...thus reducing chance of infection; "

 

80% correct. If anything this is a legitimate means of not touching,itching or rubbing  your mouth,nose and face with your hands. Now the eyes ?

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On 3/4/2020 at 5:46 PM, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

I have no idea where he's getting that percentage range or assumption from. Never heard such a claim before.

 

But I do know, the WHO does NOT recommend people to wear cloth masks, probably out of concern that they won't be regularly cleaned and disinfected. (And of course, cloth masks do nothing for preventing inhaling of PM2.5 air pollution).

 

Kinda funny how the Thai authorities all of a sudden start talking about cloth masks now when, despite everything being "under control," there continue to be widespread shortages of even the crummy paper drugstore face masks that they claimed they could produce enough of locally, not to mention hand cleaning gel and all kinds of other health/disinfecting related products.

 

Maybe time to get out that old beggar's cup again and start asking Big Brother China for some more help or hand-me-downs, because clearly Thailand can't handle the situation on its own.

 

Cloth masks are as useless for covid-19 as cloth condoms would be for stds....????

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On 3/6/2020 at 3:52 PM, RJRS1301 said:

We breathe in through nose, and have mucous inside it which not only allows for an entry but also warm wet environment for breeding, most of us do not inhale through our ears, and not a good breeding ground

 

Exactly 

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On 3/6/2020 at 3:52 PM, RJRS1301 said:

We breathe in through nose, and have mucous inside it which not only allows for an entry but also warm wet environment for breeding, most of us do not inhale through our ears, and not a good breeding ground

It's the ear canal that allows the connection between ears and nose. The one you pop when the surrounding air pressure changes. Squeeze your nose and mouth shut and blow and you'll feel it. That's why doctors specialize in ENT - Ears, Nose & Throat.

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Here is one more study specifically on homemade mask. Unfortunately, I don't have access to the full text. 

 

"Results

The median-fit factor of the homemade masks was one-half that of the surgical masks. Both masks significantly reduced the number of microorganisms expelled by volunteers, although the surgical mask was 3 times more effective in blocking transmission than the homemade mask.

Conclusion

Our findings suggest that a homemade mask should only be considered as a last resort to prevent droplet transmission from infected individuals, but it would be better than no protection. (Disaster Med Public Health Preparedness. 2013;0:1–6)"

 

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/disaster-medicine-and-public-health-preparedness/article/testing-the-efficacy-of-homemade-masks-would-they-protect-in-an-influenza-pandemic/0921A05A69A9419C862FA2F35F819D55

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Masks have more benefits that seem to be missed. First of all its hard to argue the results of countries that use them. They work for the following reasons:
1. They stop you touching your mouth and nose. These are the 2 main ways a virus gets inside your body.

2. When everyone is wearing a mask we are doubly protected: The person coughing stops most of the particles leaving their body, and the person walking into those remaining particles gets mostly stopped by the mask they are wearing.

3. The mask you wear reduces the number of particles landing in and around your mouth.

Top virus doctor from South Korea sites a study that proved masks and washing hands together reduce transmission chances by around 70%.

These lessons were learned during the SARS virus and the countries that were affected learned to right protocols. Look at the stats of Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, Vietnam and Thailand. They have far fewer infections and deaths than most western countries. And Taiwan didnt lock down anywhere near as much as other countries.

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