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I have a question about driver license renewals in CM and possible changes in requirements.

 

I had lunch with a friend yesterday who owns a coffee shop in CM with his wife that is popular with the expat crowd. He told me several long-term expats had come into the coffee shop lately complaining of a change in the license renewal requirements. He conveyed that the new requirement is to provide a reason why you need a driver license in Thailand and that this is done at Immigration when you get a residency certificate for the renewal. I've never heard of such a thing, but we all know how things change here from time to time. Anyone experienced this new requirement or heard of it? 

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Just because someone at the LTO said it's valid, doesn't necessarily make it so. The police might still issue a fine if they stop you and, more importantly, your insurance may not be  valid. You shoul

I just opened a thread on that in the Motor forum. https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1162668-driving-license-renewalextension-restarts-from-may-7-2020  

I went up there today,to make an appointment for December, the lady at the window talked me into doing it now,so I agreed, who knows what the future holds,so i had copies of pages of my

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Perhaps the expat's stories were not clear.  I only had to give a reason for needing the certificate(s).

 

At the Immigration's 2nd floor residency certificate scam desk I was asked the reason I needed the certificate.  I'm a recent arrival so at that time I was unaware that I would need two certificates.  One was for opening a bank account and one for DL.  They told me the certificates were specific to the reason and I needed to fill out and sign two applications but pay only 1 "fee" for expedited service.

 

When I received the certificates they were identical except each included the specific reason.

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35 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

Perhaps the expat's stories were not clear.  I only had to give a reason for needing the certificate(s).

 

At the Immigration's 2nd floor residency certificate scam desk I was asked the reason I needed the certificate.  I'm a recent arrival so at that time I was unaware that I would need two certificates.  One was for opening a bank account and one for DL.  They told me the certificates were specific to the reason and I needed to fill out and sign two applications but pay only 1 "fee" for expedited service.

 

When I received the certificates they were identical except each included the specific reason.

yes, that's exactly it.
My wife has been to the 500 baht desk in the stairwell twice in the past 3 weeks for Residency certificates. Both times she was asked what it was for. Her answers were never more than 3 words -- "driver's license renewal' and "buy a scooter".  he says she was never asked why she needed a license but the answer would be 3 words -- "It's the law"

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Residency Certificates are no longer available from C.M. Immigration. You have to get one from your Embassy (no Consulates). Effective about 2 days ago. There have been several reports of this on other forums in the last two days.

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1 hour ago, elektrified said:

Residency Certificates are no longer available from C.M. Immigration. You have to get one from your Embassy (no Consulates). Effective about 2 days ago. There have been several reports of this on other forums in the last two days.

thanks for the updated info. Fortunately I can't think of why i would need one for years. But I'm curious, does that mean most people have to go to Bangkok to get one?

 

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3 hours ago, elektrified said:

Residency Certificates are no longer available from C.M. Immigration. You have to get one from your Embassy (no Consulates). Effective about 2 days ago. There have been several reports of this on other forums in the last two days.

Hopefully one can still use a yellow book in lieu of a residency certificate.

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3 hours ago, el jefe said:

thanks for the updated info. Fortunately I can't think of why i would need one for years. But I'm curious, does that mean most people have to go to Bangkok to get one?

 

I was reading earlier about one guy who today, was able to get one in C.M. by going to the Consulate and being hooked-up on a video-conference with an Embassy official, signing a document, holding it up to the camera, etc. $50 USD. So I guess there is a way to do it.

 

Also I saw a post from a lawyer who says that if one is involved in an accident while in possession of an expired license that the insurance companies are required to pay claims during this time. He posted a document which I assume is the official directive, but it's so small that I can't read it. I'll post it but it's really low-resolution.

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5 hours ago, elektrified said:

I was reading earlier about one guy who today, was able to get one in C.M. by going to the Consulate and being hooked-up on a video-conference with an Embassy official, signing a document, holding it up to the camera, etc. $50 USD. So I guess there is a way to do it.

 

Also I saw a post from a lawyer who says that if one is involved in an accident while in possession of an expired license that the insurance companies are required to pay claims during this time. He posted a document which I assume is the official directive, but it's so small that I can't read it. I'll post it but it's really low-resolution.

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Thanks for the update.


Everyone complained about the 500 baht "fee". Now (for US citizens) it has tripled, you need a specific appointment sometimes weeks in advance, and it will be much more time consuming.
This is a system that just can't last. Hopefully, for everyone else, they figure something better out soon. For people from countries without a consulate in CM it means a trip to Bangkok.

 

As for the insurance, the optimal time to renew your license is as soon as possible after the expiration date. Regardless of the letter above, everyone needs to determine their own risk tolerance. i ride a scooter and waited a while after expiration before renewing. If I drove a car, I would have renewed much sooner.

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I was there to renew my drivers license on January 8th, 2021.  They informed me that the mandatory drivers Ed course has now been cancelled due to covid.

 

So no Drivers License Renewals now.

 

Further informed me that my license was good for 1 year after the expiry date and I didn't have to worry - fingers crossed.

 

SM

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13 hours ago, STUDMEYER said:

I was there to renew my drivers license on January 8th, 2021.  They informed me that the mandatory drivers Ed course has now been cancelled due to covid.

 

So no Drivers License Renewals now.

 

Further informed me that my license was good for 1 year after the expiry date and I didn't have to worry - fingers crossed.

 

SM

One year after the expiry date? Is that normal or just because of Covid?

 

Not like TH to pass up an opportunity to take money off foreigners.

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7 hours ago, stament said:

One year after the expiry date? Is that normal or just because of Covid?

 

Not like TH to pass up an opportunity to take money off foreigners.

Just because someone at the LTO said it's valid, doesn't necessarily make it so. The police might still issue a fine if they stop you and, more importantly, your insurance may not be  valid. You should check with your insurance company to find out if that is true.

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On 1/17/2021 at 9:52 AM, STUDMEYER said:

I was there to renew my drivers license on January 8th, 2021.  They informed me that the mandatory drivers Ed course has now been cancelled due to covid.

 

So no Drivers License Renewals now.

 

Further informed me that my license was good for 1 year after the expiry date and I didn't have to worry - fingers crossed.

 

SM

Now, as long as your insurance company pays out if you're unlicensed and get into an accident? 

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Tried to renew a couple of days ago in Lamphun.  They aren't open until April 1st or so they say.

The gave my wife a piece of paper.  Download the DLT Smart Queue application from the Play Store. 

I'll let you know right now, DLT Smart Queue is not too smart.

You open the app, choose a language and then are presented with two choices. 
1) Register using your Thai ID or 2) Register using your Passport.
However - only the 1) Register using your Thai ID option works. 
The Passport option will not highlight and does nothing when pressed.

So, I have a pink Thai ID so I tried that.  I was able to get to the next screen and enter registration data but was unable to submit that data.  Or should I say, I submitted the data and got a little 'processing' logo spinning in the corner of the screen forever.  I just let it go for 30 minute but it never connected.

So that's it for the Foreigner option.

  • Can't register in person. 
  • Can't register using a Passport. 
  • Can't register using a Pink Thai ID card. 


If anyone else is able to get this charming piece of Thai technology to function, please send me a message and let me know how you did it.

Other than that, it's another xenophobic day in paradise. 
"All farangs to the back of the bus.  I may be a long, long time before we issue you foreign folk a driver's license.  Please enjoy an alternate form of transportation. Taxi, tuk tuk, songthaw."
I live in the middle of the country side in rural Thailand.  The only way in or out is by private vehicle.
"Sucks to be you farang.  Have you tried ox-cart? <snickering>  NEXT.

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Just now, connda said:

Tried to renew a couple of days ago in Lamphun.  They aren't open until April 1st or so they say.

The gave my wife a piece of paper.  Download the DLT Smart Queue application from the Play Store. 

I'll let you know right now, DLT Smart Queue is not too smart.

You open the app, choose a language and then are presented with two choices. 
1) Register using your Thai ID or 2) Register using your Passport.
However - only the 1) Register using your Thai ID option works. 
The Passport option will not highlight and does nothing when pressed.

So, I have a pink Thai ID so I tried that.  I was able to get to the next screen and enter registration data but was unable to submit that data.  Or should I say, I submitted the data and got a little 'processing' logo spinning in the corner of the screen forever.  I just let it go for 30 minute but it never connected.

So that's it for the Foreigner option.

  • Can't register in person. 
  • Can't register using a Passport. 
  • Can't register using a Pink Thai ID card. 

If anyone else is able to get this charming piece of Thai technology to function, please send me a message and let me know how you did it.
 

FYI.  I tried using both Thai language and English.  Neither will accept the Register with a Passport option. 
They obviously offer a button with no code behind it. 

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