Captain Monday Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 A Thai Airways A330-300 has nearly ripped the tail off a Gulfstream IV private jet during a taxiing accident in Vientiane, Laos.The accident occurred in darkness on 9 March as the A330 (HS-TEU) prepared to operate flight TG575 on the Vientiane-Bangkok Suvarnabhumi route, according to Thai Airways.“When the pilot took the plane out to the taxiway, its wing collided with the tail of a small personal plane.” Images on social media show that the outboard leading edge of the A330’s left wing suffered damage.As for the private jet, M-YWAY, the entire tail plane was nearly torn off, coming to rest on the right-side horizontal stabilizer. The front landing gear also appears to have been severely twisted in its mounting. The Thai aircraft was carrying 79 passengers and 13 crew, all of whom are safe, says the airline. Cirium fleets data indicates that HS-TEU is managed by Thai and was delivered in March 2010, though it only entered service in June 2011. The private jet, M-YWAY, is managed and operated by Blue Sky Leasing of the Cayman Islands. It entered service in 2002 for Philip Morris, and was obtained by Blue Sky in 2010. Source: Twitter The Gulfstream IV saw its entire tail shorn off. https://www.flightglobal.com/safety/thai-a330-shears-tail-off-gulfstream-iv-in-vientiane/137157.article 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatOngo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Thai Airways, can they do anything right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just to add to the financial woes of Thai, they will now facing the insurance costs, and possible claims for other damage for financial loss for the Gulfsteam owners. Thank goodness to lives lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 14 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Just to add to the financial woes of Thai, they will now facing the insurance costs, and possible claims for other damage for financial loss for the Gulfsteam owners. Thank goodness to lives lost The article did not say if the Gulfstream was parked or also taxiing. A parked aircraft on a handstand should be clear of any size aircraft expected to use the adjacent Taxi way. A Tower or Ground controller if he is doing the job properly will not clear a large aircraft to use a taxiway it is that is not usable for its wingspan, and the pilot would assume it to be clear. Every accident is the result of a chain of errors, there is never one cause alone. Unfortunately once a plane is waved off by the marshaller all movement on the ground under its own power is the sole responsibility of the pilot in command. There is probably no way to repair it in situ and the whole aircraft may have to be trucked to a heavy overhaul facility where it could possibly be rebuilt to manufacturer standards. The owners' have a strong claim of full responsibility from TG if it was hit while parked. I would assume the Gulfstreamis a write-off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 31 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said: Just to add to the financial woes of Thai, they will now facing the insurance costs, and possible claims for other damage for financial loss for the Gulfsteam owners. Thank goodness to lives lost Typo, Thank goodness no lives lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, PatOngo said: Thai Airways, can they do anything right? how do you know this accident was not the result of an error made by the gulfstream pilot or air traffic control? accidents like are often the result of a chain of events/decisions. why are some people here so quick to be judgmentally negative about thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedemon Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Captain Monday said: The article did not say if the Gulfstream was parked or also taxiing. A parked aircraft on a handstand should be clear of any size aircraft expected to use the adjacent Taxi way. A Tower or Ground controller if he is doing the job properly will not clear a large aircraft to use a taxiway it is that is not usable for its wingspan, and the pilot would assume it to be clear. Every accident is the result of a chain of errors, there is never one cause alone. Unfortunately once a plane is waved off by the marshaller all movement on the ground under its own power is the sole responsibility of the pilot in command. There is probably no way to repair it in situ and the whole aircraft may have to be trucked to a heavy overhaul facility where it could possibly be rebuilt to manufacturer standards. The owners' have a strong claim of full responsibility from TG if it was hit while parked. I would assume the Gulfstreamis a write-off. I was told by another TG pilot that the Gulfstream had parked while the A330 was in transit so it wasn't there when taxiing after landing. Apparently the parking aprons had recently been rearranged and the taxiway centreline markings repainted in a different position. However the old centreline markings, which should have been removed were still visible. Also the apron lights were out of order. When taxiing for takeoff (it was dark by then) the pilot inadvertently followed the old markings hence the subsequent collision. So unfortunately for TG, despite some mitigation due to poor apron management, it is still pilot error on their part as it is ultimately the Captain's responsibility to make sure they are clear of other aircraft. I think you are right about the Gulfstream. At 18 years old it will be a write-off. I would guess that the A330 will be patched up at VTE and flown back to Bangkok for full repair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Monday Posted March 11, 2020 Author Share Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, samsensam said: how do you know this accident was not the result of an error made by the gulfstream pilot or air traffic control? accidents like are often the result of a chain of events/decisions. why are some people here so quick to be judgmentally negative about thailand? Because we are assuming TG crashed into an aircraft parked on stand. Ground damage happens to airlines all around the world I cannot tell you about the major Airline I work for and 2 serious incidents over the past few months caused by ground damage, one plane almost brand new! Edited March 11, 2020 by Captain Monday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jai Dee Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 This story is continued in the Thailand News Forum here. /Closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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