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16 minutes ago, samran said:

I’m kinda sympathetic to the argument of leaving schools open. For the time being it’s the preferred position of Australian state governments. The thinking is if you keep kids at school then you free up parents - many of whom will work in essential services - to keep doing their jobs at an important time. 

I understand your views and it is a difficult scenario . My point is although children are the least affected by the virus they will be carriers   , so in essence a school of 1000 pupils will have the capability of spreading this disease big time when out of school . Had the schools been closed it would not happen and therefore a large decrease of infections which in turn lessens the medical burden   

We are buying time in the hope that a vaccine is produced , in fact I read today that a vaccine is on trial with 4 volunteers in the USA taking part and bypassing animal testing but at least 18 months away from being available to the general public .

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Damned if you do and damned if you don't.... So many experts, so many differing opinions.

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Regarding the UK population as a 'Herd' and take no further shut down action doesn't  work with  Flu and won't  work  with covid 19. The idiots 'running' that country are truly demonstrating a Herd mentality worried only about the Economy and their investments not their citizens!

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No easy answers on this. Personally I would keep schools open, and most other venues as well. The virus infection is bad, and people will and are dying, but the long term effects of the shutdowns will be a far bigger disaster.

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28 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

No easy answers on this. Personally I would keep schools open, and most other venues as well. The virus infection is bad, and people will and are dying, but the long term effects of the shutdowns will be a far bigger disaster.

ONe of the huge problems associated with closing down schools is the question of income. How many of these childrens' parents have to work for a living just to make ends meet. This is an especially grave question in countries such as the USA and the UK where social benefits are low to begin with.

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5 hours ago, Laughing Gravy said:

And as soon as a child is tested positive, all schools will be closed. Who will be the clown then.

As the father of a child in school in the UK I do have some local insight.  He is in year 11 and revising for his GCSEs at the moment.  There have been a coupe of cases of teachers having Covid-19 and those schools closed for about two weeks for a deep clean. The general consensus at my son's school is that most students are very keen for the school to close and the majority of parents are very keen for it to remain open!  Probably because most parents work (both mums and dads) and it would mean at least one of them would have to stay at home.  Everyone is mortgaged up to the eyeballs around here and they need two wage packets constantly coming in.

 

I do think that eventually the schools will probably have to close for a while and our school has already set up systems to cope with that.  Lessons would be on line with all teachers available on Skype or What's App. Very doable for young teenagers but harder for the younger kids.  For Primary and Junior schools, an absolute nightmare.

 

 

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3 hours ago, chilly07 said:

Regarding the UK population as a 'Herd' and take no further shut down action doesn't  work with  Flu and won't  work  with covid 19. The idiots 'running' that country are truly demonstrating a Herd mentality worried only about the Economy and their investments not their citizens!

To be fair the economy is all important.  A weakened economy means there isn't money to care for the citizens.

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23 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

As the father of a child in school in the UK I do have some local insight.  He is in year 11 and revising for his GCSEs at the moment. 

My sincere sympathy goes out to you and your child or young adult as they probably see themselves as.

 

Sadly exam boards are still uncertain of any contingency plans. they have extended some coursework but that is it so far.

 

25 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Lessons would be on line with all teachers available on Skype or What's App. Very doable for young teenagers but harder for the younger kids.  For Primary and Junior schools, an absolute nightmare.

These E Learning platforms are not very good and have limited collaboration capacities. Classin, Zoom and a few others are better.

 

26 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Probably because most parents work (both mums and dads) and it would mean at least one of them would have to stay at home.  Everyone is mortgaged up to the eyeballs around here and they need two wage packets constantly coming in

This decision will probably be taken away from them. It is a difficult situation and one that I fully understand completely.

 

Good luck it is extremely difficult times.

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43 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

My sincere sympathy goes out to you and your child or young adult as they probably see themselves as.

 

Sadly exam boards are still uncertain of any contingency plans. they have extended some coursework but that is it so far.

 

These E Learning platforms are not very good and have limited collaboration capacities. Classin, Zoom and a few others are better.

 

This decision will probably be taken away from them. It is a difficult situation and one that I fully understand completely.

 

Good luck it is extremely difficult times.

Thank you.

 

You are right there is "no set in stone" contingency plans.  Initially it was said that the exams would be put back until July which would be summer holidays and cause chaos with those families that are committed to go away already.  That was then deemed impractical and it was suggested taking the exams in September. That wouldn't work as most boy's in my son's school are going on to college for their A levels, starting in September,  their acceptance is obviously based on their GCSE results. 

 

Then it was muted that the students didn't take the exams at all and results were given based on their predicted targets.  It certainly seems more practical but there is a fly in the ointment.  This possible option I didn't share with my son because at a time when revision is crucial, any thought of not having to take his exams would result in him throwing his books in the bin and turning on the x-box.  Unfortunately some clown at his school (his head of year) decided to share this possible option with all the GCSE students.  As is the way with kids at this age, many have taken it as gospel!  As you can imagine, us parents are not happy.

 

As for the on-line tutoring options, you are right again, none of them work in anyway other than a temporary stop gap.  The students have been getting their homework on-line for some time and of course there are many revision pods for them to use. 

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       If kids are kept at school, and a case of covid 19 is reported, then its a lot easier to contain. If kids are to stay at home or wander about, How are you going to find the source of infection if a child then becomes infected ???????

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Had an email from my ex wife in the UK who suffers with asthma . She is self isolating , tried to order food on line from Sainsburys and the next delivery date was 6th April . The UK is in panic mode she tells me .

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