Popular Post bristolboy Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Berkshire said: You're in no position to "guarantee" anything. More like wishful thinking. Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason: he's not Trump. No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. What these Trump backers don't understand is that most likely this presidential election won't be decided on the basis of personality but on the issues because of the economic and health crisis occasioned by COVID. And on that basis, Democrats have a huge advantage. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Berkshire said: You're in no position to "guarantee" anything. More like wishful thinking. Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason: he's not Trump. No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. I sincerely hope you're right! Unfortunately, no one has ever accused trump supporters of being sane or rational, yet they are the most tenacious of voters. Independents not so much. Edited March 19, 2020 by J Town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Berkshire said: You're in no position to "guarantee" anything. More like wishful thinking. Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason: he's not Trump. No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. Great platform and vision for America. "Im not Trump". Might work, but then again, maybe not. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 10 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: 18 minutes ago, Berkshire said: You're in no position to "guarantee" anything. More like wishful thinking. Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason: he's not Trump. No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. Great platform and vision for America. "Im not Trump". Might work, but then again, maybe not. Actually, it's rather powerful. "I'm not a lying, corrupt conman looking to line my own pockets and those of my buddies with your tax dollars!" There's much more of course. Biden's campaign must be licking their chops at the prospect of going after Trump, with sooooo much material out there. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Actually, it's rather powerful. "I'm not a lying, corrupt conman looking to line my own pockets and those of my buddies with your tax dollars!" There's much more of course. Biden's campaign must be licking their chops at the prospect of going after Trump, with sooooo much material out there. I guarantee you, if the Democrats run a campaign based on what they are against rather than what they are for (and what they are for better get a lot more progressive quickly) they will lose. Crazy as that possibility might seem right now. Edited March 19, 2020 by lannarebirth 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, lannarebirth said: I guarantee you, if the Democrats run a campaign based on what they are against rather than what they are for (and what they are for better get a lot more progressive quickly) they will lose. Crazy as that possibility might seem right now. Given that on most issues, the majority of voters support the Democrats, you can relax. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, Orton Rd said: well they certainly give that impression the pair of them, Sanders is now a has been and Biden needs to keep his hands to his self. No amount of character assassination against Biden holds a candle what is fully known about 45. Such lines of attack only are believed by the already converted 45 cult of personality followers. But I guess it makes such people feel better now that they've lost all the stock market gains of their dear one's presidency. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, bristolboy said: Given that on most issues, the majority of voters support the Democrats, you can relax. But the majority of voters support Bernie, and look where that's gotten. I really hope I'm wrong but I see Biden as a milk toast candidate, deserving of an overwhelming "meh." 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, J Town said: But the majority of voters support Bernie, and look where that's gotten. I really hope I'm wrong but I see Biden as a milk toast candidate, deserving of an overwhelming "meh." What majority of voters? Certainly not primary voters. Polls don't support you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Town Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 16 minutes ago, bristolboy said: What majority of voters? Certainly not primary voters. Polls don't support you. Biden drew crowds of blue hairs by the dozens. Bernie had tens of thousands of supporters on a regular basis. They just didn't vote. Sum num na, young people. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 13 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: You should be investigated by the police if you think old men touching little kids is something acceptable. As far as i know there is no law against thinking. If that were the case many trump supporters would be in trouble. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jingthing Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 50 minutes ago, J Town said: But the majority of voters support Bernie, and look where that's gotten. I really hope I'm wrong but I see Biden as a milk toast candidate, deserving of an overwhelming "meh." No. No. No. The majority of voters don't support Bernie. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jingthing said: No. No. No. The majority of voters don't support Bernie. You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts. The "fact" is that the people who vote in the primaries are Democrats. Therefore you can't claim that these people are "voters". You will only be able to use the term "voters" when it comes to the general election on November 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, blazes said: The "fact" is that the people who vote in the primaries are Democrats. Therefore you can't claim that these people are "voters". You will only be able to use the term "voters" when it comes to the general election on November 3. When the odds are overwhelming that Sanders won't be the Democratic candidate? Anyway, the pre-primary polls tracked very nicely with Biden's and Sander's results and there's no good reason to think that they aren't doing the same for the national elections. Where's your evidence to the contrary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Berkshire said: You're in no position to "guarantee" anything. More like wishful thinking. Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason: he's not Trump. No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. Correction: no sane or rational individual wants a dementia prone, morally deviant and pro china idiot like Biden in charge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Berkshire Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 12 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: 4 hours ago, Berkshire said: You're in no position to "guarantee" anything. More like wishful thinking. Independents and moderates will flock to Biden for one primary reason: he's not Trump. No sane and/or rational thinking individual wants four more years of Trump. Correction: no sane or rational individual wants a dementia prone, morally deviant and pro china idiot like Biden in charge. Whatever you may think of Biden, Trump is much, much worse. But I will concede that the incumbent President typically has a huge advantage going into an election with a strong economy and booming stock market. Oh wait.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lannarebirth Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Berkshire said: Whatever you may think of Biden, Trump is much, much worse. But I will concede that the incumbent President typically has a huge advantage going into an election with a strong economy and booming stock market. Oh wait.... I hear you, but if your campaign's strongest selling point is that you're going to turn back the clock to a style of governance that led people to vote for Trump, I'm not sure that's a very compelling message. I know no one can conceive of it right now, but there are worse people than Trump out there waiting for their moment. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 minute ago, lannarebirth said: I hear you, but if your campaign's strongest selling point is that you're going to turn back the clock to a style of governance that led people to vote for Trump, I'm not sure that's a very compelling message. I know no one can conceive of it right now, but there are worse people than Trump out there waiting for their moment. What's this nonsense about style. Ya think health care is a matter of style? Ya think being guided by science rather than by quackery and kookery is a matter of style? This is exactly the kind of pop analysis that the worst sort of pundits engage in. The issues are against Trump. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, bristolboy said: What's this nonsense about style. Ya think health care is a matter of style? Ya think being guided by science rather than by quackery and kookery is a matter of style? This is exactly the kind of pop analysis that the worst sort of pundits engage in. The issues are against Trump. Joe thinks healthcare is just fine. He and Obama fixed it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bristolboy Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 Just now, lannarebirth said: Joe thinks healthcare is just fine. He and Obama fixed it. Please. Have you even read his proposals for health care? They go beyond Obamacare. And anybody who thinks that the current problems with Obama aren't due in large measure to how Republcians impeded improvements and Trump has sabotaged it, seems likely to be have a soft spot in his heart for the thug. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Please. Have you even read his proposals for health care? They go beyond Obamacare. And anybody who thinks that the current problems with Obama aren't due in large measure to how Republcians impeded improvements and Trump has sabotaged it, seems likely to be have a soft spot in his heart for the thug. I think if you're on Medicaid it is very good. The one year I was eligible for Medicaid it was the best healthcare insurance I've ever had. Everybody should be on Medicaid. No question Trump is trying to sabotage it though, Edited March 19, 2020 by lannarebirth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Laugh if you must but this crisis is going to be Trump's biggest re-election trigger. He has acted decisively and continues to make the right moves. He was well ahead of the curve for travel restrictions on china and Europe. And he gives zero ^%$#@ about making unpopular decisions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Phoenix Rising Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said: Correction: no sane or rational individual wants a dementia prone, morally deviant and pro china idiot like Biden in charge. As you vigorously defend a demented and morally deviant person at every opportunity that post just made you the mother of all hypocrites. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 Some off topic posts and replies have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 2 hours ago, Phoenix Rising said: As you vigorously defend a demented and morally deviant person at every opportunity that post just made you the mother of all hypocrites. Being called a hypocrite by a nobody is a small price to pay for calling out the biggest, slimiest hypocrite in recent times: Joe Biden. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 4 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said: My money is on a trump landslide over the mentally challenged Biden come November. And you retiring your username and disappearing forever. Imo the reason Biden will win is #1 he will govern with a team of competent experienced people unlike trump #2 the vast majority of Americans yearn for stability in government versus chaos under trump #3 the majority of Americans are tired of the constant lies and trolling #4 most Americans see trump is serving himself not the country #5 his immorality and lack of dignity I could go on and on and on let’s just suffice to say imo the majority of Americans are sick and tired of trump! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sujo Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Phoenix Rising said: Whatever you say, pal! He certainly sounds nervous. Lots of hate in trump supporters. Edited March 19, 2020 by Sujo 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JHolmesJr Posted March 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Tug said: Imo the reason Biden will win is #1 he will govern with a team of competent experienced people unlike trump #2 the vast majority of Americans yearn for stability in government versus chaos under trump #3 the majority of Americans are tired of the constant lies and trolling #4 most Americans see trump is serving himself not the country #5 his immorality and lack of dignity I could go on and on and on let’s just suffice to say imo the majority of Americans are sick and tired of trump! social distancing does not mean cutting yourself off from reality. Wake up and smell the coffee...trump has made serious inroads with independents and even democrats who are stunned by the evil unhinged people who run their party. All these primary results are just measuring the choice of the democrat base. When it's time to rumble, Biden will crumble. ® (Im trademarking this btw) Edited March 19, 2020 by JHolmesJr 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chomper Higgot Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, JHolmesJr said: social distancing does not mean cutting yourself off from reality. Wake up and smell the coffee...trump has made serious inroads with independents and even democrats who are stunned by the evil unhinged people who run their party. All these primary results are just measuring the choice of the democrat base. When it's time to rumble, Biden will crumble. ® (Im trademarking this btw) I very much doubt Trump will get on the stage with Biden, and if by chance he does he’ll be sure to be wearing dark trousers. Edited March 19, 2020 by Chomper Higgot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHolmesJr Posted March 19, 2020 Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said: I very much doubt Trump will get on the stage with Biden, and if by chance he does he’ll be sure to be wearing dark trousers. As long as Biden wears a bib to catch the drool, I have no problem with the colour of trumps trousers. ???? Edited March 19, 2020 by JHolmesJr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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