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10 hours ago, ukrules said:

I think you're underestimating the situation.

 

You're going to be in for the shock of a lifetime over the next few months as society unravels and breaks down.

all the Dairy Queens and 7/11's will be covered with flowers

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2 minutes ago, Aussieroaming said:

All I can say is that country's closing borders, stopping entry of foreigners and closing down businesses isn't something these countries have done for giggles. This virus must have the potential to do far more than just kill the infirm or elderly. The real potential is a mutation to a more virilent strain before they can find an effective immunisation medium.

the Earth has finally said enough, and will shake off human kind like a flea of a dogs back

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18 hours ago, Lacessit said:

There is panic in high places.

Chiang Rai is business as usual, with the exception of the Night Bazaar. All the beer bars and girls on Jedyod Road are open for business.

People here are wearing masks mainly for the air pollution. Hand sanitisers at Big C and Central Festival.

Maybe those that subscribe to the notion that the cooler, less crowded and somehow more effete northern Thai ambiance is some sort of Covid-19 inoculation?

 

Not quite. Looking at this website:

 

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Note that they quarantined 33 of the Thai workers that returned from Korea up there... somewhere.

 

 

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1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

 

You believe that your actions are sane. I believe your actions are selfish.

You obviously care nothing for others, and so just sit behind a tree and throw rocks at people who demonstrate social responsibility. It's really a shame to see.

 

There are people who believe the mothership will come get them next Christmas and take them to a distant planet. What you believe or not is really none of my concern.

 

I don't believe, I know for a fact, that I don't have the Covid19 virus so I will keep going out whenever I please. It's called freedom. 

 

To sit on your backside at home is not 'social responsibility', if you're healthy it's just a waste of life. Now that's a real shame to see. 

 

And no, I care nothing for your virtue signalling. 

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18 hours ago, glennb6 said:

and when rules become tyranny....

 

" That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. "

 

"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.-- "

 

woops, sorry, wrong country - here they just have military coops.

Damnnnnnnn that's a lot of difficult words . Did you have a spliffy in a jiffy before you wrote this ??? 

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1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

Maybe those that subscribe to the notion that the cooler, less crowded and somehow more effete northern Thai ambiance is some sort of Covid-19 inoculation?

 

Not quite. Looking at this website:

 

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Note that they quarantined 33 of the Thai workers that returned from Korea up there... somewhere.

 

 

33 of the 5500 that returned 😂😂😂

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16 hours ago, Canuck1966 said:

why should you follow the rules like a sheep?

I think it’s called altruism- where you might have to put the needs of others ( for example the elderly ) above your own selfish needs .

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16 hours ago, donnacha said:


This particular virus is extremely contagious and is asymptotic during its most infectious stage.

It does not matter how scrupulously clean someone looks, they can catch it and spread it just as easily as anyone else. Given the nature of their job, masseuses would be a higher than average risk.

You probably won't have any problems if you catch it yourself, just a bad flu for a week or so, but you have to think about whether you will be in contact with anyone over the age of 60, or with diabetes, very common in Thailand. If you have a girlfriend, she could spread it to her parents. You could even spread it from one masseuse to another, who in turn would spread it to vulnerable people in her family.

If this thing takes hold in an older or otherwise vulnerable person, you get "wet lungs", meaning you essentially drown from the inside. You will not be allowed any visitors and the only humans you see will be wearing hazmat suits.

If they treat you with a ventilator, you have about a 80% chance of surviving, but with permanent cognitive damage from the ventilator, permanent lung damage from the flu, and permanent kidney damage from the medication.

If they run out of ventilators - which they will, very soon - the only treatment for wet lungs is to position the patient upside down, in an attempt to allow gravity to drain him, and hope he develops his own antibody fightback before he drowns. That is deeply uncomfortable and only works in around 10% of cases. That is why the death rates are so high in Italy - they simply had fewer ventilators than China and Korea.

Again, not a worry for most people, but the folks over 60 are in more trouble than they realize.

I like your comment just until the last 3 lines where you started to talk about people over 60yo , it will affect every person with underlying illness just as hard doesn't matter what age . Someone who's 28 and has lung problems or some kind off hartdeseace also has a big chance of not surviving . Diabetese , overweight , unhealthy , underlying illness it will hit people of every age . 

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1 hour ago, Aussieroaming said:

All I can say is that country's closing borders, stopping entry of foreigners and closing down businesses isn't something these countries have done for giggles. This virus must have the potential to do far more than just kill the infirm or elderly. The real potential is a mutation to a more virilent strain before they can find an effective immunisation medium.


We are all Italy minus X days. The only question is what is X, not what is coming. 

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-they-call-it-the-apocalypse-inside-italys-hardest-hit-hospital-11960597?fbclid=IwAR1yaIYK2sL0Pb7LkuHU8MHSIKMdb4_i5Gps1JvF0iVWmTXVYRYnWkURK1s

 

and

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-everyone-dies-alone-heartbreak-at-the-italian-hospital-on-the-brink-of-collapse-11961130?fbclid=IwAR3p7X33ZZChsAwAeXo_a8CvDtoSH6DiRvyItl00FqppbNbJ40kOV2yEebE

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16 hours ago, donnacha said:


This particular virus is extremely contagious and is asymptotic during its most infectious stage.

It does not matter how scrupulously clean someone looks, they can catch it and spread it just as easily as anyone else. Given the nature of their job, masseuses would be a higher than average risk.

You probably won't have any problems if you catch it yourself, just a bad flu for a week or so, but you have to think about whether you will be in contact with anyone over the age of 60, or with diabetes, very common in Thailand. If you have a girlfriend, she could spread it to her parents. You could even spread it from one masseuse to another, who in turn would spread it to vulnerable people in her family.

If this thing takes hold in an older or otherwise vulnerable person, you get "wet lungs", meaning you essentially drown from the inside. You will not be allowed any visitors and the only humans you see will be wearing hazmat suits.

If they treat you with a ventilator, you have about a 80% chance of surviving, but with permanent cognitive damage from the ventilator, permanent lung damage from the flu, and permanent kidney damage from the medication.

If they run out of ventilators - which they will, very soon - the only treatment for wet lungs is to position the patient upside down, in an attempt to allow gravity to drain him, and hope he develops his own antibody fightback before he drowns. That is deeply uncomfortable and only works in around 10% of cases. That is why the death rates are so high in Italy - they simply had fewer ventilators than China and Korea.

Again, not a worry for most people, but the folks over 60 are in more trouble than they realize.

Well, you have picked on the masseuses but you have failed to mention another job that has just as much contact with the customer as the masseuse and yet their shops are not closed and that is your hairdresser who is running their unclean hands through your hair and around your face while cutting and styling your hair and whilst standing over your face breathing on you whilst they give you your shave, but their shops are allowed to remain open. The staff at a bar (which is now closed) can spread this virus exactly the same as the staff at a restaurant which is allowed to remain open. So these laws are hypocritical and it shows a complete lack of reasonable thinking about the health and safety of the people.

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44 minutes ago, Unify said:

One masseuse with the virus could infect many people every day. And since they come into contact with lots of people every day, they are higher risk.

 

I would think this very easy to understand.

How many customers does a hairdresser come in contact with? A hairdresser breathing into the face of a customer having a shave wouldn't infect that customer would it? Hairdressing salons are not closed. There is no difference between a bar and a restaurant as both the customers and the staff can infect each other exactly the same which ever one it is, but the bars are closed and the restaurants remain open. These laws are badly thought out and it is only doing a selected protection.

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19 hours ago, Matzzon said:

Who said that life must be fair? Just have to follow the rules. It ain´t that hard.

George Washington had a different opinion.

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