Jingthing Posted March 23, 2020 Author Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: The only thing buying vitamins does for you is give you expensive urine Not if you have a deficiency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collingwood Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Because this virus has kept mutating, no one knows. If you go Vit C, you need to mega dose with it intravenously or Liposomal. What you get from health food stores ect, are synthethic..Ascorbic acid. As it being a soluable Vit, it passes straight through your system. Which ever process or combinations of vitamins and antioxidants you try, boosting your immune system is paramount, which includes exercising as well as a diet high in fruit and vegies. that's my take on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Not if you have a deficiency. 1% of 1% of 1% of the population? Yeah, right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unsubscribe Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I read a post from a nurse in the phillipines who said patients who were given large IV doses of Vitamin C were doing better. Load up on Vitamin D, naturally via sun if possible Elderberry extract (inhibits viral replication) reduce sugar and alcohol Load up on zinc as explained in the video: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orton Rd Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, ThaiBunny said: The only thing buying vitamins does for you is give you expensive urine Some actual Doctors would disagree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Tongue Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 So any fat lardie with high blood pressure and diabetes, who smokes, boozes daily and lives on a diet of fried food, needs only to eat garlic, ginger, onions, turmeric and a handful of aspirin will boost their immune system enough to beat a covid-19 infection, especially if they think positively! Wow, and here I thought proper nutrition, regular cardio and strength training along with plenty of rest was the key! How could I have been so wrong? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiBunny Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 How about reading the facts - https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-23/coronavirus-myths-from-around-the-world-busted-by-experts/12054310 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryLEB Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) On 3/22/2020 at 2:06 PM, david555 said: So now the 20th century medics have discovered the "Sanatoria System" who where in use almost a hundred years before at sea sides or high in Swiss mountains for lung patients as TBC ….. amazing modern medics 55555 Images of Thomas Mann's wonderful book, The Magic Mountain. Edited March 23, 2020 by LarryLEB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LarryLEB Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 22 hours ago, Logosone said: Bat soup with Chinese Ginseng will work wonders. Served with a fine dusting of ground pangolin scales? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZinPattaya Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Get plenty of sleep. I read somewhere-can't recall where or guarantee its credibility-that studies showed that people who get less than 7 hours of sleep are 3 time more likely to get the cold or flu. Social distancing, frequent use of hand sanitizers, and I mean frequent, get a portable bottle of sanitizer and use it religiously. Don't touch your face. This, I'm discovering, needs to be a conscious effort at first. It is so unconscious an act. Excessive alcohol consumption is known to depress the immune system. Hear that, fellow Pattayans? Everyday I juice a combination of mango, raspberry, kale, garlic, passion fruit. I'm not a big believer in the power of supplements, other than their ability to lighten the wallet. B12 is a smart supplement, although maybe not for immunity. Many people have a B12 deficiency. One thing that drives me crazy is people blathering in elevators. People need to keep their freaking traps shut in very confined spaces. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tchooptip Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) On 3/22/2020 at 1:08 PM, Logosone said: Fresh air will work, taking multivitamins is not only clinically proven to be entirely useless except for pregnant women but can also be counter-productive. There is no evidence at all that Vitamin C supplements will work. Fresh air is the best thing. Identifying and isolating carriers and the sick is the most important. Isolating the healthy non-carriers from the healthy will accomplish nothing. There is no evidence at all that Vitamin C supplements will work That is your opinion, same opinion as pharmaceutical industry who sees with a bad eye all that could decrease by a single small dollar its phariminous turnover of billions of billions of dollars and who pays handsomely Google to tamper with its results so that all the unfavorable answers are relegated to pages 3,000,623 and following. Vitamin C may affect lung infections https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2099400/ Vitamin C for preventing and treating pneumonia https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23925826 Vitamin C and Infections https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5409678/ Vitamin C Can Shorten the Length of Stay in the ICU: A Meta-Analysis. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30934660 Combined vitamin C, hydrocortisone, and thiamine therapy for patients with severe pneumonia https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/30029205 Vitamin C and acute respiratory infections. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10488881 Vitamin C supplementation and respiratory infections: a systematic review. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15605943 Is Vitamin C Beneficial to Patients with CAP? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27363830 Vitamin C, the Miracle Cure: 60 Minutes Living Proof https://youtu.be/xxWCNn1rIRo Vitamin C, respiratory infections and the immune system https://www.cell.com/trends/immunology/comments/S1471-4906(03)00286-2 Vitamin C and Community-acquired Pneumonia https://www.atsjournals.org/doi/full/10.1164/ajrccm.184.5.621a Vitamin C and pneumonia and other severe infections https://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/hemila/VitC_pneumonia.htm Vitamin C and SARS coronavirus https://academic.oup.com/jac/article/52/6/1049/731701 Could Vitamin C be the Cure for Deadly Infections? https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/could-deadly-infections-be-cured-vitamin-c-180963843/ High-dose Intravenous Vitamin C as a Successful Treatment of Viral Infections https://riordanclinic.org/2014/02/high-dose-intravenous-vitamin-c-as-a-successful-treatment-of-viral-infections/ Mitochondria and the Coronavirus - The Vitamin C Connection https://www.evolutamente.it/mitochondria-the-coronavirus-the-vitamin-c-connection-part-3/ Chinese Medical Team Reports Successful Treatment of Coronavirus Patients with High-Dose Vitamin C https://www.dr-rath-foundation.org/2020/03/chinese-medical-team-report-successful-treatment-of-coronavirus-patients-with-high-dose-vitamin-c/ Intravenous vitamin C as adjunctive therapy for enterovirus/rhinovirus induced acute respiratory distress syndrome https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28224112 Gander J, Niederberger W (1936) Vitamin C in der Pneumonia Behandlung [Vitamin C in the treatment of pneumonia]. Münch Med Wschr 83:2074-7 https://www.mv.helsinki.fi/home/hemila/T1.pdf or https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/7b37/490dfcdc7a98ba7e3bd744a15886873701db.pdf Can Vitamin C Prevent and Treat Coronavirus? https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=228745 How to Use Vitamin C During Illness http://www.doctoryourself.com/cathcart_C_summary.html Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19 http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n16.shtml Vitamin C Infusion for the Treatment of Severe 2019-nCoV Infected Pneumonia https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04264533 Vitamin C and COVID-19 Coronavirus http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n14.shtml Three Intravenous Vitamin C Research Studies Approved for Treating COVID-19 http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n12.shtml Early Large Dose Intravenous Vitamin C is the Treatment of Choice for 2019-nCov Pneumonia http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n11.shtml Vitamin C and its Application to the Treatment of nCoV Coronavirus http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n09.shtml Hospital-based Intravenous Vitamin C Treatment for Coronavirus and Related Illnesses http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n07.shtml Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n04.shtml Edited March 23, 2020 by Tchooptip typo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mac98 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Gargle with salt water to kill virus before it gets into your lungs. Get a tan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 5 hours ago, rabas said: Thailand does have a flu season. It roughly correlates with the warm rainy season coming up. But like you say numbers are weaker in Thailand. No, there is no flu season in Thailand: "Although there were peaks in influenza-associated mortality in Thailand during 2006 through 2011, they were not consistent in their timing." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4605410/ So peaks yes, season no. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietChild Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 I drink Kombucha everyday here in Thailand. According to internet, it's good for immune system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
partington Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 7 hours ago, SovietChild said: I drink Kombucha everyday here in Thailand. According to internet, it's good for immune system. The internet is never wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7fish Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Selenium. Get all you need from 3 brazil nuts per day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 As I stated before, I think addressing the VITAMIN D (preferably D3) is something people should seriously consider in regards to promoting lung health (and resistance to serious reactions due to a viral infection). I realize Thailand is sunny but there are still a lot of reasons people are not getting enough of it. -- Maybe you don't really go out in the sun much after all -- Older people tend to absorb sunlight D more poorly -- Overweight and obese people especially with abdominal far tend to absorb it more poorly -- There are many common medications that interfere with absorbing it About dosage, older and overweight/obese probably could use more than the standard recommended supplement dosage. Ideally you would go and get a blood study and check if you're deficient. but that really isn't necessary to decide to supplement now. Obviously don't megadose on it but toxic dosages are way higher than you'll get in a typical pill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share Posted March 30, 2020 An article discussing some of these ideas. I don't see anything in article to convince me that it isn't a good thing to take vitamin d supplements. Also sounds like it couldn't hurt to have some zinc in stock to take in case you start feeling symptoms. https://elemental.medium.com/the-truth-about-vitamin-d-zinc-and-other-coronavirus-rumors-a217eb4b655f The Truth About Vitamin D, Zinc, and Other Coronavirus Rumors What might work, what probably doesn’t, and what’s flat-out wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) Antiviral herbs? To be taken before to strengthen immune system and if it happens after infection. Lomatium Dissectum Associated with Native Americans. I don't think it's available in Thailand. Elderberry (supplements) Available in Thailand (pharmacies and Lazada, etc.) I'm not endorsing these herbs but if someone has something to add about them pro or con, you're welcome to comment. This video is about Lomatium but Elderberry is mentioned in the comments and I've heard about it in this context before and the "Doctor" in this video is positive on it as well. Don't blame me for the "politically incorrect" rhetoric in the video regarding Native Americans. I am considering the elderberry. Not expecting any miracles but I don't see how it would hurt. Edited April 4, 2020 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 High cholesterol converts sunlight into vit d more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UbonThani Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Star anise The flower-shaped spice contains shikimic acid that is used as a base material for the production of Tamiflu, which is used for influenza virus. It is super powerful as an anti-viral. Take star anise and boil it in water and add it to your teas like green tea or black tea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SovietChild Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 3/24/2020 at 4:14 AM, partington said: The internet is never wrong. Really? Tell me more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Here's what i aim for.. 1. 8 hours sleep every night 2. multi vitamin + minerals every morning (include vitamin D) 3. clean diet (plenty of veges, no sugar, low carbs, sensible protein and fat intake) 4. daily fitness workout (brisk walking would do to begin with or calisthenics in the home) 5. no smoking, no alcohol 6. interactions with others (social) 7. annual health check up / blood tests 8. common sense 9. daily fix of ThaiVisa forum ranting to vent frustrations (optional) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lacessit Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Regular sex, fresh fruit and vegetables, exercise. I'm doing the best I can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Some generic information on how immune system works and how it starts producing antibodies (which are the ones most 'rapid' tests look for): https://news.stanford.edu/2016/08/02/stanford-researchers-show-make-antibodies/ Since this is a new virus, only those that have already had it have some sort of immunity, for some period of time. For others, the immune system must first learn how to generate antibodies that work. Not much seems to be known about the parameters affecting the speed with which the novel antibodies develop. Could be dumb luck. Staying healthy in general, sleeping and eating well will at least give the immune system more time to battle it out without the body succumbing to the disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted April 9, 2020 Author Share Posted April 9, 2020 Some more thoughts on this. However even though this is largely an anti-supplement article, it made me want to buy some ZINC! Again -- be careful with Elderberry. Quote Don’t rely on supplements to treat or prevent the Covid-19 virus https://cuencahighlife.com/dont-rely-on-supplements-to-treat-or-prevent-covid-19/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazar Posted April 11, 2020 Share Posted April 11, 2020 https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20200408-covid-19-can-boosting-your-immune-system-protect-you 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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