Popular Post Brunolem Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Below are recent interviews of worldwide medical experts. Maybe listening to them would help temper the ongoing hysteria... https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/ Edited March 26, 2020 by Brunolem 7 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lacessit Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 I guess it's the same as climate change, a small percentage beg to differ. Are you prepared to trust your life to their opinion? 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 Bravo! Fantastic thread! The government’s anti-COVID19 measures are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous. The life expectancy of millions is being shortened. The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All this will impact profoundly on our whole society. All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook. Whoever thinks that governments end viruses is wrong. – Interview in Globes, March 22nd 2020 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted March 26, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 12 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I guess it's the same as climate change, a small percentage beg to differ. Are you prepared to trust your life to their opinion? Probably more than trusting my life to politicians surrounded by people representing special interests... 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Antonymous Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 Yes, excellent post, thank you Op. So many important truthful statements that it is hard to choose the best. But this one stood out, in the context of elderly being hit the hardest by WuFlu: "However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes." 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Germany is 81. The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Italy is 81. End the panic! Open the doors! Let the people live! 5 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antonymous Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 2 minutes ago, Logosone said: The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Germany is 81. The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Italy is 81. End the panic! Open the doors! Let the people live! Not forgetting though: do please protect the elderly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 Not just the elderly, everybody should be given the care they need if they have any illness. That goes not just for Covid19 but any other illness. This mass panic is of course having the effect of really sick people being unable to even get hold of a doctor, as the idiot governments close everything down and create mass Covid19 panic. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 14 minutes ago, Logosone said: The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Germany is 81. The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Italy is 81. End the panic! Open the doors! Let the people live! Where is the figures for that? And quoting Italy which has the second highest aged population is kinda not giving the whole story 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post scubascuba3 Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 Governments are copying each other for political purposes mainly and acting as if this virus has a 100% death rate 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, Lacessit said: I guess it's the same as climate change, a small percentage beg to differ. Are you prepared to trust your life to their opinion? I remember (well figurately) when Galileo was the only percentage who differed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nyezhov Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 39 minutes ago, Brunolem said: Probably more than trusting my life to politicians surrounded by people representing special interests... Or people pursuing agendas. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumbastheycome Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, Nyezhov said: Or people pursuing agendas. Or counter agendas. Already there seems to be reference to "The Elderly" in dismissive terms as if they dead already. I am sure the majority have their own agenda which is to stay alive ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 (edited) Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes. Interesting topic. My sister informed me that more than ten people at a home for the elderly have passed away. I am still raising a fundamental question on the virus. How does using a glass, or similar, of an infected person affect people? So more you read about the virus, so less you know. Edited March 26, 2020 by Isaanbiker Hurry, please bring out the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Lacessit said: I guess it's the same as climate change, a small percentage beg to differ. Are you prepared to trust your life to their opinion? Yes.Like Paddy standing in his paddock to get ahead in life,"they are outstanding in their field". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FarFlungFalang Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 43 minutes ago, baansgr said: Where is the figures for that? And quoting Italy which has the second highest aged population is kinda not giving the whole story I think that's the point,we are not getting the whole story and many decisions are being made without having the whole story and without much consideration to the possible negative effects of those measures outweighing the benefits of the introduced measures.Beware the cure! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, baansgr said: Where is the figures for that? And quoting Italy which has the second highest aged population is kinda not giving the whole story The national health institute said the average age of those who have died was 81 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51777049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thequietman Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Logosone said: The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Germany is 81. The average age of the Covid19 fatality in Italy is 81. End the panic! Open the doors! Let the people live! https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenterry Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 24 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: I think that's the point,we are not getting the whole story and many decisions are being made without having the whole story and without much consideration to the possible negative effects of those measures outweighing the benefits of the introduced measures.Beware the cure! Yes, it's certainly being hyped up by the media, including countless updates on here. My favourite comment was this: But remember the joke about tigers. “Why do you blow the horn?” “To keep the tigers away.” “But there are no tigers here.” “There you see!” Notwithstanding that, my gut feel is I'm not risking anymore than I have to, with once a week fresh food shopping as being the only near contact to others. And, of course, I'm in no position to weigh up whether the beneficial effects of segregation and self-isolation outweigh the economic and social negatives. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 9 minutes ago, stephenterry said: Notwithstanding that, my gut feel is I'm not risking anymore than I have to, with once a week fresh food shopping as being the only near contact to others. And, of course, I'm in no position to weigh up whether the beneficial effects of segregation and self-isolation outweigh the economic and social negatives. I agree and it could be a good practice run and a timely warning if something more deadly comes along so enormous benefits can be gained from the current outbreak.Not knowing is creating the biggest fear I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarFlungFalang Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 44 minutes ago, Why Me said: Being my girlfriend who is 19 and a half. I agree Why You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 37 minutes ago, thequietman said: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709 Thanks, I'm very aware that some young people have also died. However, they were exceptions. They do not qualify the hard statistics. The statistics stand. They say that in Italy the average age of the Covid19 fatality is 81. In Germany equally the average age of the Covid19 fatality is 81. Posting isolate reports of exceptions does not invalidate the statistics. It's the same with people claiming two reports of re-infected from China and Japan mean there is no immunity. That's not what it means. It means those cases were exceptions. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jmccarty Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 The 2003 SARS virus was very deadly and with some much smaller effort, it petered out. I was living in Singapore when it started and next to Orange Grove Nursing home. 3 old patients died there from catching it from one younger family member that survived. That SARS was the flu of the century when it occurred and a lot of fear and trepidation about, but it was gone a month or so later. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, jmccarty said: The 2003 SARS virus was very deadly and with some much smaller effort, it petered out. I was living in Singapore when it started and next to Orange Grove Nursing home. 3 old patients died there from catching it from one younger family member that survived. That SARS was the flu of the century when it occurred and a lot of fear and trepidation about, but it was gone a month or so later. And obviously, governments around the world learnt lessons and would never be caught out by a similar outbreak again.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 10 minutes ago, jmccarty said: The 2003 SARS virus was very deadly and with some much smaller effort, it petered out. I was living in Singapore when it started and next to Orange Grove Nursing home. 3 old patients died there from catching it from one younger family member that survived. That SARS was the flu of the century when it occurred and a lot of fear and trepidation about, but it was gone a month or so later. Because the protocols of testing, identifying and isolating works. We were also lucky that the SARS virus lost part of its genome in a mutation which affected its transmission. Mutations can go in our favour as well, they need not be a bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 7 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: And obviously, governments around the world learnt lessons and would never be caught out by a similar outbreak again.... Not only did the Robert Koch Institute warn in 2012 of a coronavirus pandemic, witness Bill Gates in 2015 warning of a pandemic. Gives you chills down your spine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Logosone Posted March 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 What did the governments do? Nothing! Now they are overcompensating and going to the other extreme. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 57 minutes ago, thequietman said: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-52041709 many young ones too in NYC - dying drowning in my own snot is not something I want to experience, imo this country will be going to 24 hr curfew, sooner than later, and should have done so 6 weeks ago.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted March 26, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, from the home of CC said: imo this country will be going to 24 hr curfew, sooner than later, and should have done so 6 weeks ago.. A decision that would kill far more people than the virus... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brunolem Posted March 26, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2020 45 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said: I agree and it could be a good practice run and a timely warning if something more deadly comes along so enormous benefits can be gained from the current outbreak.Not knowing is creating the biggest fear I think. A practice run? At the cost of the global economy! Better die as a free man than live like a slave... 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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