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14 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

Oh no, not ships in international waters, whatever shall we do?

stay tuned, new empire doing its initial steps, already looking for ripples to rule

 

not bad, her navy still being in posession of devices that are in operation and floats . . .

 

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15 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

stay tuned, new empire doing its initial steps, already looking for ripples to rule

 

not bad, her navy still being in posession of devices that are in operation and floats . . .

 

How would you suggest the UK deals with with Russian Warships, send out a flotilla of boats with bunting tied to their masts to escort them up the Thames to Tilbury Docks and help them off load their gifts of polonium. ????????

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7 hours ago, vogie said:

How would you suggest the UK deals with with Russian Warships, send out a flotilla of boats with bunting tied to their masts to escort them up the Thames to Tilbury Docks and help them off load their gifts of polonium. ????????

 

you seem to be well informed, loaded with polonium are they, the Russian men of war?

 

do you have to "deal" with ships in international waters?

 

at least, you are not (yet) as bad as the navy/coast guard across the pond,

routinely using brutal force to bother and harass private vessels in international waters

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7 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

stay tuned, new empire doing its initial steps, already looking for ripples to rule

 

not bad, her navy still being in posession of devices that are in operation and floats . . .

 

I hope you are not referring to Russia as a new empire.   They are not much more than glorified gas station.

 

Countries by GDP (2018)
US 21.44 trillion
China 14.14 trillion
Japan 5.15 trillion
Germany 3.86 trillion
India 2.94 trillion

UK 2.83 trillion

France 2.71 trillion
Italy 1.99 trillion
Brazli 1.85 trillion
Canada 1.73 trillion
Russian 1.64 trillion

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6 minutes ago, shdmn said:

I hope you are not referring to Russia as a new empire.   They are not much more than glorified gas station.

 

Countries by GDP (2018)
US 21.44 trillion
China 14.14 trillion
Japan 5.15 trillion
Germany 3.86 trillion
India 2.94 trillion

UK 2.83 trillion

France 2.71 trillion
Italy 1.99 trillion
Brazli 1.85 trillion
Canada 1.73 trillion
Russian 1.64 trillion

We should have offered them cash for those rust buckets for scrap. Seems to be just the usual round of mutual willy-waving of mines bigger than yours. 

 

https://thebarentsobserver.com/en/security/2020/03/freezing-cold-16000-nato-soldiers-kickstart-arctic-war-game

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8 hours ago, fasteddie said:

Oh no, not ships in international waters, whatever shall we do?

Face up to them, that's what. Ruskies know exactly what they're doing. Do the same there or to the US or China and see what the reaction is. Suggest lobbing over a COVID-19 present onto their decks. Idiots. With everything that's going on.

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1 hour ago, shdmn said:

I hope you are not referring to Russia as a new empire.   They are not much more than glorified gas station.

 

Countries by GDP (2018)
US 21.44 trillion
China 14.14 trillion
Japan 5.15 trillion
Germany 3.86 trillion
India 2.94 trillion

UK 2.83 trillion

France 2.71 trillion
Italy 1.99 trillion
Brazli 1.85 trillion
Canada 1.73 trillion
Russian 1.64 trillion

 

by no means, I was not referring to your Russia/gas station

 

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5 hours ago, melvinmelvin said:

 

you seem to be well informed, loaded with polonium are they, the Russian men of war?

 

do you have to "deal" with ships in international waters?

 

at least, you are not (yet) as bad as the navy/coast guard across the pond,

routinely using brutal force to bother and harass private vessels in international waters

You are the expert, the op states "off its coastal waters" you say "international waters" are they the same?

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      As a matter of interest, what ships have we got left guard the North Sea. we don't even seem to have enough patrol boats to guard the English Channel, But we do have 2 big glorious aircraft carriers, which are too expensive and risky putting out to sea.

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Britain spends the same amount on defence as Russia, Russian  Economy is approximately the same size as italy,

Putin is on a mission to try and make Russia a world power again while one in five Russians live below the poverty line,

Putin was a KBG foot Soldier before he rose to power , Now one of the richest men in the world, Not by corruption though ,  (Sarcastic)

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5 hours ago, vogie said:

You are the expert, the op states "off its coastal waters" you say "international waters" are they the same?

depends a bit on who you ask

 

if you ask UNCLOS, then largely yes, they will be off UK and UK law

UNCLOS use the term territorial waters, thats max 12 wet miles off the base line, meaning low water mark,

be off that and you are in non-UK or off-UK

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3 hours ago, grumpy 4680 said:

      As a matter of interest, what ships have we got left guard the North Sea. we don't even seem to have enough patrol boats to guard the English Channel, But we do have 2 big glorious aircraft carriers, which are too expensive and risky putting out to sea.

 

as far as the Channel is concerned UK (and France) both do a lot of quality surveillance

by means of radiocommunication - long range radar - ais - shipboard observations

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20 hours ago, fasteddie said:

Oh no, not ships in international waters, whatever shall we do?

 

Ships testing the readiness of foreign countries by deliberately sailing close to territorial waters. Just like flying their strategic bombers close to foreign air space which Russia did again last week. And does fairly regularly.

 

Vlad probing to see if this virus is having any effect on readiness. Of course, he's lucky that there's not one single infection in the Russian Federation. ????

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Two paper tigers rattling their sabers at each other.

 

Russia hasn't been a naval power since the collapse of the Soviet Union.  Each naval exercise brings their remaining ships closer to decommissioning or a fatal fire.

 

While the UK's HMS QE carrier still hasn't been commissioned for duty, not that they'll get their full complement of F-35s until after 2022.

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13 hours ago, shdmn said:

I hope you are not referring to Russia as a new empire.   They are not much more than glorified gas station.

 

Countries by GDP (2018)
US 21.44 trillion
China 14.14 trillion
Japan 5.15 trillion
Germany 3.86 trillion
India 2.94 trillion

UK 2.83 trillion

France 2.71 trillion
Italy 1.99 trillion
Brazli 1.85 trillion
Canada 1.73 trillion
Russian 1.64 trillion

Wouldn’t the point of empire building be to change these numbers?

 

anyway, it’s not that big a step for Russia to climb into the top half dozen listed (given your unsupported figures), it’s really only the empire of the United States that is obscenely wealthy (again, your point) .... and that there is perhaps cause enough to push a new world order

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42 minutes ago, Iron Tongue said:

Two paper tigers rattling their sabers at each other.

 

Russia hasn't been a naval power since the collapse of the Soviet Union.  Each naval exercise brings their remaining ships closer to decommissioning or a fatal fire.

 

While the UK's HMS QE carrier still hasn't been commissioned for duty, not that they'll get their full complement of F-35s until after 2022.

Naval power is a factor of policing an empire. Modern warfare is not as dependent on sea trade or routes, as has been the case. You don’t need ships to sabre rattle when you own hundreds of nukes. Calling Russia toothless seems more arrogant than naive.

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