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You've already been asked, but what assets do you have in Thailand?

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47 minutes ago, saengd said:

It sounds as though the wife does have a visa to remain in the UK and is on holiday there yet the child has a UK passport?

 

Also, when you say you're married does that mean you were legally married at an Amphur in Thailand or something else?

 

If those things are true:

 

You could divorce the wife under UK law but then there's the issue of custody which would be complex I reckon, either way you would loose up to 50% of your UK assets and possible child support as well, assuming you don't get custody.

 

Your wife could divorce you under UK law and the same would apply, custody and maintenance would be big issues, she only needs a tourist visa to get to the UK to begin that process or perhaps it could be done remotely, I don't know.

 

Thai divorce laws are not dissimilar to UK divorce laws, assets are split 50/50 and maintenance is required for young children.

 

Don't think for one second that you can ship her back to Thailand, divorce her in the UK and that will be the end of the matter because she has plenty of options.

I was told in Thai law what you in after the marriage is and asset not previous assets 

 

Also what about me why should i pay for a drunk to live in the uk i go to work every day i want to look after my family 

 

She as no money to get back to the uk  and then if she did it would cost £10000s to divorce me over here a she cant get legal aid 

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51 minutes ago, saengd said:

It sounds as though the wife does have a visa to remain in the UK and is on holiday there yet the child has a UK passport?

 

Also, when you say you're married does that mean you were legally married at an Amphur in Thailand or something else?

 

If those things are true:

 

You could divorce the wife under UK law but then there's the issue of custody which would be complex I reckon, either way you would loose up to 50% of your UK assets and possible child support as well, assuming you don't get custody.

 

Your wife could divorce you under UK law and the same would apply, custody and maintenance would be big issues, she only needs a tourist visa to get to the UK to begin that process or perhaps it could be done remotely, I don't know.

 

Thai divorce laws are not dissimilar to UK divorce laws, assets are split 50/50 and maintenance is required for young children.

 

Don't think for one second that you can ship her back to Thailand, divorce her in the UK and that will be the end of the matter because she has plenty of options.

Divorce her in the uk id be mad she wants to live here and get free money from me 

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4 minutes ago, Winders67 said:

Divorce her in the uk id be mad she wants to live here and get free money from me 

What if she divorces you in the UK, that would be the same thing and she could do that. And since the child has a UK passport I guess her getting residency is not a far fetched idea.

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5 minutes ago, saengd said:

What if she divorces you in the UK, that would be the same thing and she could do that. And since the child has a UK passport I guess her getting residency is not a far fetched idea.

So who will pay for her flight back and lawyers fee estimated at 400,000 baht 

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2 hours ago, Winders67 said:

Yes the lawyer said she could try do a divorce over here but she cant get legal aid and it would cost much more money than she as in her purse and the lawyer told me if i tell immigration we are not together her visa is void and she as to leave the UK and she cant take the our daughter with out me agreeing.


A lawyer told you that? Really?

She cannot take her daughter out of the country without your agreement, but she will absolutely be allowed to stay in the UK until the custody of your daughter is settled. She will almost certainly win custody, then she will be allowed to stay in the UK and proceed towards citizenship on the basis of her daughter's citizenship, and you will have to pay, at the very least, child support.

If she does not win custody - and, again, that would be highly unusual - she will almost certainly have visitation rights, be allowed to remain in the UK, and proceed towards citizenship.

I am not a lawyer, but the rights of mothers are very strong in the UK, and the right of a British child to her mother is one of surest bets for residency and citizenship.

 

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1 hour ago, donnacha said:


A lawyer told you that? Really?

She cannot take her daughter out of the country without your agreement, but she will absolutely be allowed to stay in the UK until the custody of your daughter is settled. She will almost certainly win custody, then she will be allowed to stay in the UK and proceed towards citizenship on the basis of her daughter's citizenship, and you will have to pay, at the very least, child support.

If she does not win custody - and, again, that would be highly unusual - she will almost certainly have visitation rights, be allowed to remain in the UK, and proceed towards citizenship.

I am not a lawyer, but the rights of mothers are very strong in the UK, and the right of a British child to her mother is one of surest bets for residency and citizenship.

 

Goodonya donnacha, we approach the bottom of page 2 and the first serious discussion of the child and still zero response from OP on that aspect of the relationship ... despite a bit of prodding.

 

i too am not a lawyer, but have more first-hand experience (as a self-represented customer of the Oz Family Court) than i ever wanted or expected.

 

The UK scenario you describe is identical to Oz and even the notoriously narsty Oz IMMI system leans over backwards to keep spouse visa holders resident if a child is involved. Oz IMMI are also recently ''woke'' to the position of 'mail-order' brides find themselves in when things go sour, children or not.

 

i would be very surprised if UK IMMI does not actively counsel her and explain her options (in Thai if required) the minute the charming OP withdraws his sponsorship.

 

OP's plan to "send her home" (like a dud Amazon order?) is imo delusional and i too would love to know more about his 'lawyer' ... maybe he's also posting on a freeby UK site and getting his advice from there?

 

What a pity we will never get to hear the wife's story, except via the OP.

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3 hours ago, Winders67 said:

you say im bad to send her home if she stays and i allow her too she would want me to supply a house and food till the day die ,what have i done wrong to deserve this .

If you are telling the true story,  do not pay attention to the "have empathy"  or you are selfish

critics.    Take care of you and your child.   

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7 hours ago, pdtokyo said:

Goodonya donnacha, we approach the bottom of page 2 and the first serious discussion of the child and still zero response from OP on that aspect of the relationship ... despite a bit of prodding.

 

i too am not a lawyer, but have more first-hand experience (as a self-represented customer of the Oz Family Court) than i ever wanted or expected.

 

The UK scenario you describe is identical to Oz and even the notoriously narsty Oz IMMI system leans over backwards to keep spouse visa holders resident if a child is involved. Oz IMMI are also recently ''woke'' to the position of 'mail-order' brides find themselves in when things go sour, children or not.

 

i would be very surprised if UK IMMI does not actively counsel her and explain her options (in Thai if required) the minute the charming OP withdraws his sponsorship.

 

OP's plan to "send her home" (like a dud Amazon order?) is imo delusional and i too would love to know more about his 'lawyer' ... maybe he's also posting on a freeby UK site and getting his advice from there?

 

What a pity we will never get to hear the wife's story, except via the OP.

The wife story is she drink and makes the kids cry , i have one other daughter who i have brought up myself age 8yrs her mother died of cancer .i dont want to ship her off but what options do i have she as ruined my family 

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6 hours ago, rumak said:

If you are telling the true story,  do not pay attention to the "have empathy"  or you are selfish

critics.    Take care of you and your child.   

With my heart im telling the true i did love my wife but she as turned into a monster , i have one other daughter aged 8yr and her mum died of cancer 

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8 hours ago, donnacha said:


A lawyer told you that? Really?

She cannot take her daughter out of the country without your agreement, but she will absolutely be allowed to stay in the UK until the custody of your daughter is settled. She will almost certainly win custody, then she will be allowed to stay in the UK and proceed towards citizenship on the basis of her daughter's citizenship, and you will have to pay, at the very least, child support.

If she does not win custody - and, again, that would be highly unusual - she will almost certainly have visitation rights, be allowed to remain in the UK, and proceed towards citizenship.

I am not a lawyer, but the rights of mothers are very strong in the UK, and the right of a British child to her mother is one of surest bets for residency and citizenship.

 

That isnt what my lawyer said they said yes she can divorce but she will have to pay as she as no legal aid and she as no were to live so she would have to leave thats what the lawyer told me 

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20 minutes ago, Winders67 said:

That isnt what my lawyer said they said yes she can divorce but she will have to pay as she as no legal aid and she as no were to live so she would have to leave thats what the lawyer told me 

If that's what your 'lawyer' told you, i don't believe it.

If that's not what your lawyer told you, then i don't believe you.

 

Either way, it's 'unfollow' time for me ...

 

Best of luck 'shipping her off' and holding on to your assets and more genuinely, the very very best of luck to the offspring.

 

donnacha et al you've got broader shoulders than me ...  

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12 minutes ago, pdtokyo said:

If that's what your 'lawyer' told you, i don't believe it.

If that's not what your lawyer told you, then i don't believe you.

 

Either way, it's 'unfollow time for me ...

 

Best of luck 'shipping her off' and holding on to your assets

 

donnacha you've got broader shoulders than me ...  

You havent read the notes 

she gets drunk

i have an 8yr old also her mother died 

i cant afford to let her stay here and pay for her house and living cost 

 

Im not shipping her off 

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