garzhe Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, Kaopad999 said: No official curfew, just advice to stay at home as often as possible ect.. Thais dont take advise, lots of places still open, many treating it like a holiday. Only way is a curfew but will anyone take any notice of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: You're presuming the confirmed case numbers reported daily by the govt reflect the actual spread of the virus in the country... They most certainly DO NOT, as testing remains expensive and hard to obtain. I'm convinced, the spread is far far beyond what the daily officialreport numbers suggest. So, no, I'm not going to "breathe"... Clearly I stated that the actual numbers are X10/x15 so no, I don't pressume they are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 They have tested less than 20,000 of a population of 70,000,000 Of those 20,000 there are still about 7,000 who don't know the results and are in hospital. Therefore only about 13,000 people in the kingdom out of 69,000,000 know if they have the virus or not (0.000188 of the population) Furthermore anybody who has died of the virus via a lung infection or pneumonia who isn't part of the 1388 positive victims is not part of the stats, as there is no testing of postmortem deaths Let that sink in! Must be hundreds if not thousands of deaths in the last few months that have been missed due to lack of testing 7 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 10 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: I totally agree, the numbers however keep slowly maintaining or creeping upwards. What day was the mass exodus from BKK, and into the provinces, 8 days ago I think, so lets see..incubation period is actually truly unknown unless you have a link to a study that locks those numbers in place, could be from ? to ?, not sure the social distancing will be adhered too, lots of young people having parties and gathering in smaller villages as well....just saying, it is truly an unknown Ooh yeah, the numbers will keep rising and so will the deaths. The thing that makes Covid19 dangerous is the sudden influx in cases, that overwhelm a healthcare system, making the deaths spiralling out of control. What I believe we see.in Thailand (whole SEA) is a steady increase instead of a wave of infections. Because it's steady, the slowly drip into the healthcare system thus spreading them out nicely. We have to watch the numbers, but this seems to.be happening in SEA, South America and Africa (thank god) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post humbug Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 39 minutes ago, dcsw53 said: Say goodbye to the lockdown finishing any time soon. I am not dismissing viruses, more icu beds, free testing in every area and better education in hygiene 7 people dead is not 70,000 dead or even 7,000 dead, this is now 10 weeks into publicly known cases, you are asking 20-30 million people to keep losing jobs, livelihoods, income for 7 people dying, they won’t listen, they won’t care, not many people, with a sane mind will care, it’s not a normal justification unless the numbers are just a work of fiction, and you see some creepy way to gain adulation, savior applause, through cash handouts to prolong your stay as gangsters 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, GordyS said: They have tested less than 20,000 of a population of 70,000,000 Of those 20,000 there are still about 7,000 who don't know the results and are in hospital. Therefore only about 13,000 people in the kingdom out of 69,000,000 know if they have the virus or not (0.000188 of the population) Furthermore anybody who has died of the virus via a lung infection or pneumonia who isn't part of the 1388 positive victims is not part of the stats, as there is no testing of postmortem deaths Let that sink in! Must be hundreds if not thousands of deaths in the last few months that have been missed due to lack of testing Then the hospitalisation rate should have skyrocketed. Only a small % dies but alot of people get a double long infections. This doesn't seem the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) As of yesterday, the DDC's last public report of nationalities, about 79% of all confirmed cases thus far have been Thais (984 out of 1245). Among the other non-Chinese nationalities, the most other individual cases by nationality were France with 9 and Italy and England with 6 each. 1128 of the 1245 total confirmed cases remained hospitalized as of yesterday. https://ddc.moph.go.th/viralpneumonia/file/situation/situation-no85-280363.pdf Edited March 29, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Eibot said: Then the hospitalisation rate should have skyrocketed. It has... Two months ago, there was just a few dozen cases hospitalized with COVID type symptoms. Right now, the hospitalized patients under investigation count was 7614 as of yesterday. DDC just updated their daily report. Likewise as of yesterday, the tally of hospitalized patients in serious/critical condition had increased to 19 vs 14 the day before. Edited March 29, 2020 by TallGuyJohninBKK 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zikomat Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 The statistics is getting boring. My guess for tomorrow is 110-130 range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 5 minutes ago, Eibot said: Then the hospitalisation rate should have skyrocketed. Only a small % dies but alot of people get a double long infections. This doesn't seem the case. How do you know? If they haven't got the ventilators then the patient would die quickly and nobody would know any better. Just another death from old age, weakness of smoking etc 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneeyedJohn Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 they are more interesting than some of the things you come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: It has... Two months ago, there was just a few dozen cases hospitalized with COVID type symptoms. Right now, the hospitalized patients under investigation count is approaching 7500. Plus there are not nationwide testing places outside Bangkok, some cities don't have any facilities at all 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 42 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Keep safe, social distancing does not seem to be working..... It only works if people actually carry it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post totally thaied up Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hockeybik said: People really don't appear to be taking this social distancing thing all that seriously Our market in the village is packed. I drove past it yesterday afternoon in my car when I went to an ATM to get some cash. People are everywhere, the market vendors were all cooking fish and Moo Ping and it was just another typical day out as far as I could see. I have not left my house for seven days and I needed some cash for our delivery drivers. My family has taken it seriously but it seems in our area, no one else has. I am feeling like a fool sitting at home doing what they say is the right thing when everyone else in our area does not seem to give a <deleted>. Seems to me if this virus is wide spread or going to be wide spread, herd immunity is the way they are going about it because no one gives a stuff in my village. If people suddenly get sick in my area, I won't feel sorry at all as for at this moment, it is still free for all and those of us that are following what the Government is asking, are feeling pretty silly at the moment. The streets may be empty, the Shopping Malls closed but back to the villages everyone had gone home to, life just goes on like normal. The impact this must be having to the economy must be huge and if the Government has shut things down for 30 days, there must be some reasoning to it. Either the figures do not stack up or we are being left in dark as the costs of this is just too big/high to make any sense of it. I am really at a loss what to say. A News Paper article from a paper we cannot mention on here said today that Thai people are not taking social distancing seriously. What is to be done? I don't know but it certainly is not making any sense to me at this time. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, rooster59 said: This is a developing story. This post will be updated. https://www.dailynews.co.th/regional/765622 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: It has... Two months ago, there was just a few dozen cases hospitalized with COVID type symptoms. Right now, the hospitalized patients under investigation count was 7614 as of yesterday. DDC just updated their daily report. You assume PUI are hospitalized? Why? ICU beds should be more than full if it was these numbers, and we should see scenes of people lying in the hallways on ventilators. Don't assume things so spread fear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yinn Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, totally thaied up said: Seems to me if this virus is wide spread or going to be wide spread, herd immunity is the way they are going about it because no one gives a stuff in my village. Where the village? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadilo Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 36 minutes ago, kevin612 said: Everyday over 100 cases, it is pretty scary Really? If you’re scared now I would stop reading from now on to protect yourself. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yinn Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 27 minutes ago, garzhe said: Thais dont take advise, 1 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 8 minutes ago, GordyS said: How do you know? If they haven't got the ventilators then the patient would die quickly and nobody would know any better. Just another death from old age, weakness of smoking etc People with Covid-19 literary choke to death. This isn't your "grandpa passed away quietly while the family members are drinking Lao Kau around him" thing. Besides only a small % dies, which means that an enormous group is knocking on the doors of the hospitals grasping for air. Good luck keeping that of social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, Eibot said: You assume PUI are hospitalized? Why? ICU beds should be more than full if it was these numbers, and we should see scenes of people lying in the hallways on ventilators. Don't assume things so spread fear. Thailand only has a few thousand ventilators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smew Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 it is a scary issue any and all measures to combat this virus should be tried and implemented, but who is to blame for this world pandemic ? or not allowed to make such comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TallGuyJohninBKK Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, GordyS said: Plus there are not nationwide testing places outside Bangkok, some cities don't have any facilities at all The government seems to have a strange policy on the issue of Thais and whether or not they have to pay out of their own pocket for COVID testing. As best as I understand it, if a Thai citizen goes for testing and tests negative, then they have to pay for the test out of their pocket. But if they test positive, then the govt. pays for the test and the ensuing treatment. That policy seems like a pretty good deterrent against ordinary Thais going to get tests, unless they become very sick. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GordyS said: Thailand only has a few thousand ventilators Exactly, making it even less likely they hide a big wave of people chocking to death. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Eibot said: People with Covid-19 literary choke to death. This isn't your "grandpa passed away quietly while the family members are drinking Lao Kau around him" thing. Besides only a small % dies, which means that an enormous group is knocking on the doors of the hospitals grasping for air. Good luck keeping that of social media. Why would it be on social media? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eibot Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GordyS said: Why would it be on social media? If a loved one of you chokes but is refused healthcare due to having no space, and the authorities don't report it, are you going to sit on your hands? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just now, Eibot said: Exactly, making it even less likely they hide a big wave of people chocking to death. Have you ever been in a Thai hospital? There are loads of people on oxygen and I've seen people in a real bad way on various occasions, gasping for air. The doctor's word is never questioned either. If a doctor tells a Thai person something then that is gospel 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elzear Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Does anyone have numbers for Myanmar, Laos and Cambodia ? If climate is a factor, then those countries are not affected at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tayaout Posted March 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 29, 2020 Thai in my village started wearing mask a couple days ago when Prayut announced a state of emergency. Fast forward today. Nobody is wearing a mask anymore and they have mass shared food meetings! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordyS Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Eibot said: If a loved one of you chokes but is refused healthcare due to having no space, and the authorities don't report it, are you going to sit on your hands? It doesn't work like that over here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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