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Pattaya: "Zero" tourists - last remaining Russians have cancelled and tourism industry faces 80% closure for up to a year

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11 hours ago, Mojomor said:

Was reading somewhere that the airlines have come up with some new spin where the center seats in the rows of 3 will be left empty to allow more space, with only a small increase in price ---- like 50% or something.

I would have hoped 33%....  perhaps the seats could be taken out and all spaced better. 

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On 4/16/2020 at 9:02 PM, RJRS1301 said:

I feel airfares will rise, as they will not be allowed to carry as many passengers, certain countries will not be letting people in from countries unless tested and cleared of infection. Even with a vaccine this will not change for sometime.

Travelers will have carry a vaccination certificate.  

The airlines are in a precarious position.  Raise prices out of reach for average tourists, and the planes are half empty. causing further loses.  Make flights cheap, to try to get people traveling again, and you are flying  route at a loss, for some time to come.  

 

The economic pain to the tourism industry for all countries will be felt long after boarders are open.  

 

As for a vaccine,  I see some people in South Korea have caught the virus for a second time.  It could be a reoccurring virus that remains in the body.  If that is the case, there's basically no cure.  

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On 4/12/2020 at 11:39 AM, HashBrownHarry said:

While it's sad people are struggling little thought has gone into having a slush fund for a rainy day, people here live WELL beyond their means, everything on HP, must show off to Somchai next door etc.

 

This can also be said of many countries the world over.

I know Thai people that don't make enough to put any aside. Get out of the tourist spots to see reality.

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14 hours ago, Leaver said:

The airlines are in a precarious position.  Raise prices out of reach for average tourists, and the planes are half empty. causing further loses.  Make flights cheap, to try to get people traveling again, and you are flying  route at a loss, for some time to come.  

 

The economic pain to the tourism industry for all countries will be felt long after boarders are open.  

 

As for a vaccine,  I see some people in South Korea have caught the virus for a second time.  It could be a reoccurring virus that remains in the body.  If that is the case, there's basically no cure.  

While I mock the man made climate change movement, I do agree that air travel should be restricted. It's air and hearing polluting, and has made mass tourism possible which IMO is a very bad thing. Thai beaches which were once lovely have been destroyed catering to mass tourism.

I'd like to see air travel go back to 1970s levels. Enough for those that need faster than ship travel, but too expensive for those that only want to get a tan.

 

If the virus does remain in the body as an infecting and fatal disease, that'll put the pro lockdown demographic in a quandary. A vaccine will also be useless.

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33 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

While I mock the man made climate change movement, I do agree that air travel should be restricted. It's air and hearing polluting, and has made mass tourism possible which IMO is a very bad thing. Thai beaches which were once lovely have been destroyed catering to mass tourism.

I'd like to see air travel go back to 1970s levels. Enough for those that need faster than ship travel, but too expensive for those that only want to get a tan.

 

If the virus does remain in the body as an infecting and fatal disease, that'll put the pro lockdown demographic in a quandary. A vaccine will also be useless.

Who would travel on a ship now?? Been compared to floating petrie dishes, been so for ages, especially if gastroenteritis is contracted.

Viral particles were found on hard surfaces of the Diamond Princess 17 days after last disembarkation, not sure how viable it was, but 17 days is a longer time than initially thought.

 

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On 4/17/2020 at 12:09 PM, Leaver said:

The airlines are in a precarious position.  Raise prices out of reach for average tourists, and the planes are half empty. causing further loses.  Make flights cheap, to try to get people traveling again, and you are flying  route at a loss, for some time to come.  

 

The economic pain to the tourism industry for all countries will be felt long after boarders are open.  

 

As for a vaccine,  I see some people in South Korea have caught the virus for a second time.  It could be a reoccurring virus that remains in the body.  If that is the case, there's basically no cure.  

yes its like the common cold antibodies wont stop you getting it again ,confirmed by the WHO today   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/who-issues-warning-on-coronavirus-testing-theres-no-evidence-antibody-tests-show-immunity.html

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Changes to requirements to enter the country I expect....just an opinion....

 

Will change soon....as other nations reopen I expect Thailand will look for ways to get the tourists back.

 

One think I expect is some sort of instant 5 minute test that will be paid for by the flier perhaps as preboard.

 

At least in a way that can yield a fast easily obtained document for flying, and accepted worldwide. 

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17 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

it will be many years till pattaya gets going again .due to unemployed who cant afford thai trips any more and will struggle to put food on the table and pay rent..they will try to sell assets but so will many others and it will be a buyers market for assets..we are entering a global slump ..its like year zero on an industrial scale

I think this is far more grim then what the reality will be. In 2021 they will be coming.

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13 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

yes its like the common cold antibodies wont stop you getting it again ,confirmed by the WHO today   https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/17/who-issues-warning-on-coronavirus-testing-theres-no-evidence-antibody-tests-show-immunity.html

So, if that is the case, I can only see a lowering in the world's population in the future, or, the status quo is maintained, to preserve life.  

 

Of somewhat of a concern is, the virus has already mutated about six times, and who knows what risk to life the next mutation may pose.  

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30 minutes ago, WalkingOrders said:

I think this is far more grim then what the reality will be. In 2021 they will be coming.

No one quite knows what the reality will be, but one thing is for sure, it's economic pain for every country,  in one form or another, for the foreseeable future.  

 

Why do you think tourists will be coming back in 2021? 

 

More to the point, what makes you think they will be allowed to come back by Thailand, and allowed to leave their own country, and also be able to afford to come back here, in 2021?  

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On 4/11/2020 at 10:48 AM, Finspin said:

Did a test purchase with Thai Airlines on their app for a return trip LHR - BKK In December. Was quoted £968, which is over twice what I paid for a recent trip to Thailand. Price will have to drop for me to actually make that possible trip.

Really ?

I've been checking Skyscanner for the last couple of weeks for late Nov > Dec and found the opposite - some nice prices if you look through.

UK > BKK 1 Stop KLM £478, Lufthansa £473  (whether these flights will translate into reality is something else!)

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2 minutes ago, directstep said:

(whether these flights will translate into reality is something else!)

So why are they even selling them at all?

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2 minutes ago, Leaver said:

So why are they even selling them at all?

Agree ..... just like Holiday companies in UK still selling holidays to Spain from a month out !!!!    Madness

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