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Explaining the Thai resilience to the virus

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35 minutes ago, JaiMaai said:

Given the suitcase full of drugs that I've been given every time I've seen a doctor here, I'll have to disagree!

But are you representative of the average Thai citizen? 

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9 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

i think it is 70% cultural. the numbers are low because

most Thais I know are scared of hospitals and doctors.

They just sit quietly and suffer through the normal flu or cold.

they only go to the pharmacy when they are running a high fever or have really bad flu symptoms. still no official contact with anyone.

 

I think now many are scared to say anything at all now.

plus the government still is not going to be truthful so you really can't draw a conclusion with their data. They are in continuous salvage mode and even a year from now TAT will be saying sometime like "Look Thailand had the lowest numbers, always safer than other countries, best place to be in a pandemic. bla bla bla".

 

yes there is some credence to the idea that they are closer to the ground and are more resistance to infection, perhaps have a unique diet of spices, children walking in waist deep flood water without getting sick, eating filthy food.

 

there is another factor and that is their belief that they are special and different.  

I will let you ponder the effects your mind has on your body thinking you strong and healthy all the time versus weak and sick.        

 

also Japan does not have a problem at all compared to the rest of the world because the government decided to not let the new media blast 24/7 fear because of the Olympics. They wanted to project normality. Some people get sick and recover without ever knowing if it was the normal flu or something else, some people go to the hospital and recover and some die. who knows what the real numbers are. 

 

 

 

 

By resilience I didn't mean resilience to infection but to its effects, especially the most "decisive" one. 

 

And I didn't want to focus on Thailand only, but on the developing countries at large. 

 

Numbers show a vast difference between both worlds (developed vs developing). 

 

They may not be entirely reliable, but who provides fully reliable numbers? 

 

In the actual context, it must be much more difficult for Thai people with symptoms, notably coughing, to avoid seeing a doctor, because of the pressure of their entourage (family, village...). 

 

Thai people support each other, but only to a certain extent, and that probably doesn't include getting the virus from their neighbor who doesn't want to see a doctor... 

 

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26 minutes ago, Pravda said:

 

 

Anyway, just about every factory that she visits (and there are many) has at least 1 or more covid cases. Where she works near silom a major bank located in her building had an outbreak.

 

None of this was reported in the news. I asked if these cases are reported to the government and it was a firm no because all of the people infected were tested by themselves in private hospitals.

 

Resilience my behind.

If these workers have tested positive, they have (normally) been added to the daily total of new infections. 

 

Where did you read that private hospitals don't report their cases? 

 

Why would you want these specific cases to make the news? Why are they different from the other cases? 

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all positives most go on the govt role whatever hospitals used and deaths too,i personally think its the weather.what else could it be?we were almost another chinese province till feb!!so weve been very exposed to it,the govts policy has been obscure to say the least and how else can it be explained ?some cheating of course but you cant hide the infection nos too much or deaths too ,its notlike china where they disappear drs who are helping etc etc,what id like to know is where i can be tested quickly and cheaply.possibly for free,as thats the way forward with this,the sleazy private hospitals should be nationalised in regards to corona treatment and testing,the govt picking up the tab.its in their interest.the people with all the money need to spend it and help the country not themselves

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2 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

i think it is 70% cultural. the numbers are low because

most Thais I know are scared of hospitals and doctors.

They just sit quietly and suffer through the normal flu or cold.

they only go to the pharmacy when they are running a high fever or have really bad flu symptoms. still no official contact with anyone.

 

I think now many are scared to say anything at all now.

plus the government still is not going to be truthful so you really can't draw a conclusion with their data. They are in continuous salvage mode and even a year from now TAT will be saying sometime like "Look Thailand had the lowest numbers, always safer than other countries, best place to be in a pandemic. bla bla bla".

 

yes there is some credence to the idea that they are closer to the ground and are more resistance to infection, perhaps have a unique diet of spices, children walking in waist deep flood water without getting sick, eating filthy food.

 

there is another factor and that is their belief that they are special and different.  

I will let you ponder the effects your mind has on your body thinking you strong and healthy all the time versus weak and sick.        

 

also Japan does not have a problem at all compared to the rest of the world because the government decided to not let the new media blast 24/7 fear because of the Olympics. They wanted to project normality. Some people get sick and recover without ever knowing if it was the normal flu or something else, some people go to the hospital and recover and some die. who knows what the real numbers are. 

 

 

 

 

all this is "your opinions"........?    I certainly hope you are not turning into the serious type so often found on these forums.    These might be serious times,  but seriously,  where are all these facts coming from ?     Too many confusing statements in the above post for me to take them one by one .

"I will let you ponder the effects your mind has on your body thinking you strong and healthy all the time versus weak and sick."      arai na ?

Spock calling Enterprise :   you can come back to Earth now  

 

 

 

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