banagan Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 In the event of hospitalisation, I'm wondering the differences between being Thai and being a foreigner. Cost, level of care... Do you think a hospital would prioritise a Thai patient over a foreigner, where medically the foreigner would have a better chance of survival, for example, younger. Or does it all come down to who can pay? 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Isaanbiker Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 In the event of hospitalisation, I'm wondering the differences between being Thai and being a foreigner. Cost, level of care... If you're talking about a government hospital, Thais will always have a better treatment. Cost, level or care depends on what hospital you chose. Do you think a hospital would prioritise a Thai patient over a foreigner, where medically the foreigner would have a better chance of survival, for example, younger. Or does it all come down to who can pay? If I were a Thai, I'd prioritize them to a guy who I can hardly communicate with. Unfortunately, do too many foreigners believe that they are better. They are not. If you go to one of these real expensive hospitals, you can easily lose a million habt if it's something serious. If you'd bribe a doctor to have an extra eye on you, yes you could have a much better treatment. But please don't't bet on it. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bartolo57 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Looks like it is betetr to stay safe and virus free. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post colinneil Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 14 minutes ago, Isaanbiker said: In the event of hospitalisation, I'm wondering the differences between being Thai and being a foreigner. Cost, level of care... If you're talking about a government hospital, Thais will always have a better treatment. Cost, level or care depends on what hospital you chose. Do you think a hospital would prioritise a Thai patient over a foreigner, where medically the foreigner would have a better chance of survival, for example, younger. Or does it all come down to who can pay? If I were a Thai, I'd prioritize them to a guy who I can hardly communicate with. Unfortunately, do too many foreigners believe that they are better. They are not. If you go to one of these real expensive hospitals, you can easily lose a million habt if it's something serious. If you'd bribe a doctor to have an extra eye on you, yes you could have a much better treatment. But please don't't bet on it. I didnt bribe a doctor, or anybody else, yet a received first class treatment/ care in a government hospital. Communication with doctors/ nurses, not a problem. 16 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banagan Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, bartolo57 said: Looks like it is betetr to stay safe and virus free. Thats the plan B.A. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 It would probably always be government hospitals. From what I've read, private hospitals are very unkeen on taking covid patients and they'd be transferred to government hospitals. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banagan Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Just now, colinneil said: I didnt bribe a doctor, or anybody else, yet a received first class treatment/ care in a government hospital. Communication with doctors/ nurses, not a problem. Good to hear. Do you mind me asking, for the China Virus? If things got to Italy levels though... 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 Well think about it. You are in your home country and you have a decision to make,. You only have one ventilator and two patients, of equal health and age, One is Your countryman and the other one is a foreigner. Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity. Which one would you choose??I say the foreigner is screwed. 4 3 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, sirineou said: Well think about it. You are in your home country and you have a decision to make,. You only have one ventilator and two patients, of equal health and age, One is Your countryman and the other one is a foreigner. Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity. Which one would you choose??I say the foreigner is screwed. Keep a stack of baht notes glued to an envelope on your body. That trumps any patriotism. 4 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post banagan Posted March 31, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, sirineou said: Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity. Well I'd hope the doctor is not a racist bigot. I'd hope that he'd consider what would happen to one of his countrymen, if they were in the same position, in my country. 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banagan Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 12 minutes ago, DrTuner said: It would probably always be government hospitals. From what I've read, private hospitals are very unkeen on taking covid patients and they'd be transferred to government hospitals. First I've heard of this. Do you have any links? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post sirineou Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 1 minute ago, banagan said: Well I'd hope the doctor is not a racist bigot. I'd hope that he'd consider what would happen to one of his countrymen, if they were in the same position, in my country. Hope is a good breakfast but a bad supper. *W. Rawley 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, banagan said: First I've heard of this. Do you have any links? I'll dig. It was in the TVF threads about Bamrasnaradura, where it was mentioned people with confirmed infections would be sent to government hospitals. Was about 2-3 weeks back so might take some time. EDIT: ok google produced a better hit, but it's in Bangkok Post that I'm not allowed to link to. Search Google for 'Hundreds of hospital beds readied'. You will find that there's supposed to be a "gentleman's agreement" with MoPH and private hospitals on them taking on covid patients. That's in response to complaints about being turned away. I don't think I've ever met a gentleman in Thailand. Edited March 31, 2020 by DrTuner 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banagan Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, DrTuner said: I'll dig. It was in the TVF threads about Bamrasnaradura, where it was mentioned people with confirmed infections would be sent to government hospitals. Was about 2-3 weeks back so might take some time. EDIT: ok google produced a better hit, but it's in Bangkok Post that I'm not allowed to link to. Search Google for 'Hundreds of hospital beds readied'. You will find that there's supposed to be a "gentleman's agreement" with MoPH and private hospitals on them taking on covid patients. That's in response to complaints about being turned away. I don't think I've ever met a gentleman in Thailand. Found it. "gentleman's agreement" what's that supposed to mean? Edited March 31, 2020 by banagan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enzian Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I've had to research a number of private and public hospitals for a condition I have, and I found they differ greatly. And doctors and individual departments/specialties differ. I know everyone generalizes that private are better, but it is not that simple and you have to do the legwork and even trial and error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 minutes ago, banagan said: Found it. "gentleman's agreement" what's that supposed to mean? I suppose something like this: 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 8 hours ago, banagan said: Good to hear. Do you mind me asking, for the China Virus? If things got to Italy levels though... No mate, it was 6 years ago, in hospital for 7 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RJRS1301 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 As a matter of medical ethics, given that there is sufficient equipment, medical knowledge, resources,skilled professionals will treat each equally. Irrespective of age, gender or nationality. I await the poor response from some with slanted values about the country 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Destiny1990 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, sirineou said: Well think about it. You are in your home country and you have a decision to make,. You only have one ventilator and two patients, of equal health and age, One is Your countryman and the other one is a foreigner. Not only a foreigner but a foreigner who always looks down or you, and talks bad about you at every opportunity. Which one would you choose??I say the foreigner is screwed. Well here most likely that Doctor will give his last ventilator to that farang patient simply because they can tripple their price for such patients !! Edited March 31, 2020 by Destiny1990 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tagged Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 19 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: Well here most likely that Doctor will give his last ventilator to that farang patient simply because they can tripple their price for such patients !! Everyone who is at risk for the virus, have the money, buy yourselves a emergency respirator! Case closed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Curt1591 Posted March 31, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2020 9 hours ago, Isaanbiker said: If you go to one of these real expensive hospitals, you can easily lose a million habt if it's something serious. However, if you were going in for the same care in a hospital in your homeland, you can easily "lose" much more. I spent 900,000 baht (insurance covered) on a procedure at BKK Hospital. It was performed with a huge staff attending, recovered a couple nights in a private room outfitted like a 4 star hotel including a mini bar (no alcohol). Since the surgeon has an identical clinic in the US, I asked him how it compared to the same procedure Stateside. He said the staff would be much smaller, less equipment, and I would recover in a multi-patient ward. It would be billed out at close to $100,000 (3 million baht). 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Do you really need to even ask this question, the answer is obvious. Its not the NHS you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryofthailand Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 If your a foreigner and you don't have insurance you better go home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guderian Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, barryofthailand said: If your a foreigner and you don't have insurance you better go home How? I need to get back to the UK by August/September, but I'm not at all certain anybody will be flying by then. I read that cargo ships can take up to 12 passengers, maybe that would be the answer, a few months at sea safely away from the rampaging virus. It's bit late to start hitch-hiking, anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 17 hours ago, DrTuner said: It would probably always be government hospitals. From what I've read, private hospitals are very unkeen on taking covid patients and they'd be transferred to government hospitals. quite a statement, evidence, from a reputable source, please 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, Guderian said: How? I need to get back to the UK by August/September, but I'm not at all certain anybody will be flying by then. I understand flights are still running - all be it at exorbitant prices......British Ambassador has apparently just posted (another thread) that you should get yourself back now or be prepared to stay for the long haul - but you knew that anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 17 hours ago, sirineou said: I say the foreigner is screwed. I think from some of the posts I see here that many would rather get screwed than have decent medical care... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 11 minutes ago, samsensam said: quite a statement, evidence, from a reputable source, please are we on the same forum here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, Curt1591 said: However, if you were going in for the same care in a hospital in your homeland, you can easily "lose" much more. I spent 900,000 baht (insurance covered) on a procedure at BKK Hospital. It was performed with a huge staff attending, recovered a couple nights in a private room outfitted like a 4 star hotel including a mini bar (no alcohol). Since the surgeon has an identical clinic in the US, I asked him how it compared to the same procedure Stateside. He said the staff would be much smaller, less equipment, and I would recover in a multi-patient ward. It would be billed out at close to $100,000 (3 million baht). amorn poomee ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 How many respirators in Thailand? I think the answer is not nearly enough. And is the government procuring more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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