morrobay 1,391 #61 Posted April 4 (edited) 19 hours ago, Leaver said: Everything is not going to just open up and continue operating. When this has passed, Pattaya will have changed. On the other hand Pattaya could be reset/improved. There has been oversupply, over development. So in future with better exchange rate, less traffic, less low end tourists/secondhand cigarette smoke. And so on. In a year it very well may be better here than before. You don't like Thai food 7 days/week ? You think supermarkets are going to disappear??. I dare say your going off the rails with your negativity Bud. And even if the Chinese swoop in it will save the local economy. Better than tumbleweeds blowing across the road. Edited April 4 by morrobay 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HashBrownHarry 934 #62 Posted April 4 14 minutes ago, morrobay said: On the other hand Pattaya could be reset/improved. There has been oversupply, over development. So in future with better exchange rate, less traffic, less low end tourists/secondhand cigarette smoke. And so on. In a year it very well may be better here than before. You don't like Thai food 7 days/week ? You think supermarkets are going to disappear??. I dare say your going off the rails with your negativity Bud. Totally agree. Look how much Patong improved after a tragic event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brunolem 5,256 #63 Posted April 4 58 minutes ago, morrobay said: On the other hand Pattaya could be reset/improved. There has been oversupply, over development. So in future with better exchange rate, less traffic, less low end tourists/secondhand cigarette smoke. And so on. In a year it very well may be better here than before. You don't like Thai food 7 days/week ? You think supermarkets are going to disappear??. I dare say your going off the rails with your negativity Bud. And even if the Chinese swoop in it will save the local economy. Better than tumbleweeds blowing across the road. The Chinese won't swoop in, but yes it could be a great opportunity for improvement. Considering that the average Joes, worldwide, are going to be wiped out by the economic depression, only the wealthy will be able to travel, and Thailand could target quality, instead of quantity...and look at countries such as the Maldives or Botswana for inspiration... 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
henry2109 387 #64 Posted April 4 On 4/1/2020 at 12:52 PM, donnacha said: It now appears that the CCP, for their own reasons, requested that Thailand, as the number one foreign destination for the citizens of Wuhan, delay officially acknowledging any real outbreak the kingdom until it had spread more fully around the world and the spotlight was off China and Chinese tourists. If the number of infections in Thailand reaches into the millions, it is probable that the Thai government would want to hide the full extent of the problem in order to preserve happiness (and not end up hanged by an angry mob). Oh dear, relax, take a break. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frantick 185 #65 Posted April 4 On 4/2/2020 at 5:51 PM, Leaver said: I think the elders in the herd would disagree with you. Not to mention, there are now over half a dozen new mutations of the original virus. "Let it rip" and who knows what virus you end up with. Maybe a virus that kills everyone. I'm an elder. I agree with @WillyPlatt. And I'm guessing most of the 'herd immunity' group are also. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elgenon 1,179 #66 Posted April 4 Did the guys ever build the new bar complex in The Avenue? Was due to be finished this month as I remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brunolem 5,256 #67 Posted April 4 6 minutes ago, elgenon said: Did the guys ever build the new bar complex in The Avenue? Was due to be finished this month as I remember. Talk about getting the timing right! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leaver 3,865 #68 Posted April 4 6 hours ago, morrobay said: On the other hand Pattaya could be reset/improved. There has been oversupply, over development. So in future with better exchange rate, less traffic, less low end tourists/secondhand cigarette smoke. And so on. In a year it very well may be better here than before. You don't like Thai food 7 days/week ? You think supermarkets are going to disappear??. I dare say your going off the rails with your negativity Bud. And even if the Chinese swoop in it will save the local economy. Better than tumbleweeds blowing across the road. Pattaya could reset, but without a nice beach, and clean ocean water, I doubt it, but possible. Also, Pattaya is famous for the sex trade, and it's hard to shake off that reputation without serious government enforcement. Yes, I know supermarkets will be open, I was thinking more about restaurants catering for westerners. There will be too many to survive with just expats here, and a trickle of tourists over the next 12 to 18 months. I suppose we could speculate on the percentage of businesses that cater for westerns that will not open back up when the virus crisis has finished, but I guess a lot of that depends on their Thai landlord. Perhaps it's the landlords that may force a rest of many businesses, and simply sell out to the Chinese. Who knows? Early days at this stage, but for sure Pattaya 2020/21 will have a different atmosphere. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacko45k 15,048 #69 Posted April 4 3 hours ago, elgenon said: Did the guys ever build the new bar complex in The Avenue? Was due to be finished this month as I remember. Yeah... putting in Neon as we speak! Sorry... but do you need to ask? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leaver 3,865 #70 Posted April 4 3 hours ago, frantick said: I'm an elder. I agree with @WillyPlatt. And I'm guessing most of the 'herd immunity' group are also. Have you seen the statistics coming out of Italy and Spain? Herd immunity is not beneficial to the elderly, in fact, it can be fatal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Laughing Gravy 12,472 #71 Posted April 4 6 hours ago, HashBrownHarry said: Look how much Patong improved after a tragic event. It did in some ways and in others it didn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leaver 3,865 #72 Posted April 10 On 4/4/2020 at 1:02 PM, Brunolem said: Considering that the average Joes, worldwide, are going to be wiped out by the economic depression, only the wealthy will be able to travel, and Thailand could target quality, instead of quantity...and look at countries such as the Maldives or Botswana for inspiration... What would lure the wealthy to Pattaya? It's certainly not the beach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HashBrownHarry 934 #73 Posted April 10 5 hours ago, Leaver said: What would lure the wealthy to Pattaya? It's certainly not the beach. the women ( and men for some ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leaver 3,865 #74 Posted April 10 5 minutes ago, HashBrownHarry said: the women ( and men for some ) Sure, so Pattaya needs to go back to it's roots. (no pun intended) The sex trade made Pattaya famous, successful, and profitable, and that's no surprise. Trouble is, the mongers, typically from the west, will be broke for some time to come, so the sex industry isn't going to kick start tourism any time soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron jeremy 1,805 #75 Posted April 10 On April 3, 2020 at 9:13 PM, HashBrownHarry said: Totally agree. Look how much Patong improved after a tragic event. Improved? How? Tell us! Prices doubled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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