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With 2020 race all but halted over coronavirus, Biden quietly widens lead over Trump - Reuters/Ipsos poll

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On 4/6/2020 at 10:25 PM, spidermike007 said:

37 years in the US senate has to count for something. It sure beats 40 years of real estate development, and scamming of small contractors. Then 8 years as VP. He puts Trump to shame on a dozen different levels. And you talk about debt skyrocketing? Trump has done exactly that. A health care plan. What has Trump done in the way of introducing new ideas on that front? There is zero evidence of Biden ever taking any money from anyone. His son may be a different story. But when it comes to the discussions of sons, you really do not want to bring Trump's spawn into this. 

 

I would say a fall and winter of recovery, once Don Donald has been removed, in a rather humiliating fashion. Let's go baby. Lets make America better, without the incompetent. 

No, 37 years in the Senate doesn't have to count for something. However, if you'd like to look at how much debt the country has accumulated during that time, sounds great! Tell me about the times Joe Biden fought against the DC status quo that got us here. How did Biden vote on the Iraq war and Patriot Act? 

 

If you'd like to look at how much money Biden has collected from banksters during that time, that sounds great. If you'd like to look at how Biden voted in banksters' interests over consumers, that is fine with me. If you'd like to tell me about Biden's accomplishments, that would be fine with me. Simply stating he sat in a chair for 37 years means nothing. Sitting in a different chair means nothing.

 

So tell us all specifically about Joe Biden's accomplishments. What significant legislation did he sponsor? How were consumers empowered against banksters via Biden's votes? Has he ever been right about anything?

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7 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

No, 37 years in the Senate doesn't have to count for something. However, if you'd like to look at how much debt the country has accumulated during that time, sounds great! Tell me about the times Joe Biden fought against the DC status quo that got us here. How did Biden vote on the Iraq war and Patriot Act? 

 

If you'd like to look at how much money Biden has collected from banksters during that time, that sounds great. If you'd like to look at how Biden voted in banksters' interests over consumers, that is fine with me. If you'd like to tell me about Biden's accomplishments, that would be fine with me. Simply stating he sat in a chair for 37 years means nothing. Sitting in a different chair means nothing.

 

So tell us all specifically about Joe Biden's accomplishments. What significant legislation did he sponsor? How were consumers empowered against banksters via Biden's votes? Has he ever been right about anything?

One question for you. Only one. How has Trump improved the standing of Americans, with regard to the banking industry? What has he done to give the average person more power against industry in general? Trump has NEVER met a lobbyist he has been able to say no to.

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3 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

One question for you. Only one. How has Trump improved the standing of Americans, with regard to the banking industry? What has he done to give the average person more power against industry in general? Trump has NEVER met a lobbyist he has been able to say no to.

 

You must have missed the note which said that every bank in the USA is to lend out money with no questions asked. In many cases the debt will be forgiven even. 

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Just now, Cryingdick said:

 

You must have missed the note which said that every bank in the USA is to lend out money with no questions asked.

Many questions will be asked. Banks have already been quoted as saying they will go through the normal approval processes. If you think you can just show up at a bank and get a loan, you have bene drinking some powerful kool aid. 

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5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Many questions will be asked. Banks have already been quoted as saying they will go through the normal approval processes. If you think you can just show up at a bank and get a loan, you have bene drinking some powerful kool aid. 

 

$80 Billion were approved through companies like Wells Fargo, JP Morgan was a little late and confused about the guidelines, however they approved more loans in one day then their entire history, There is already a call for more money now that the banking system can keep up. Look at the financial stocks. Up bigly. That's a barge load of money and it's just begun. 

 

In spite of low interest it is going to be government guarantees, and volumes above usual.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Of course some democrats will vote for 45 and many of the more old school republicans will vote for Biden. It's a matter of how many in which states or more specifically how many in which SWING states. A bigger problem is democrats staying home. Personally I think it's obvious that fewer Bernie people will stay home, vote for 45, or vote for a throwaway candidate than last time because of two major reasons --

 

Very few people actually believed 45 would win, if more had, he would have lost

 

There was the hope among naïve people that 45 was just playing games with his rhetoric and if elected would grow with the job into some kind of decent president.

 

That didn't happen. That will never happen. He must go!

You are acting like a large proportion of dems refusing to vote for Biden is "normal". 

 

Dems voting for republicans isn't normal at all. Luckily we will be able to see the stats one day.

 

You said it though... it is a matter of how many and in which states. Right. There will be more swing liberal voters in every state who have such a disdain for Biden so as to not vote for him, not show up, or even vote for Trump... since he seems to be for things like UBI and medicare during the pandemic. 

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7 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Indeed, a big problem for Democrats is their voters staying home. That's precisely why Republicans are delighted with Biden. Bernie drew huge crowds. Biden struggles to fill a high school auditorium.

 

And there was hope among normal people that Democrats would accept Trump defeating Hillary and not come up with silly ideas like using the 25th Amendment (aka article 25) to try and remove a president because they're butt hurt that they lost. That didn't happen. It's time Democrats wake up and smell the coffee.

Democrats are being manipulated into voting for "electable" candidate who are not electable. Truth is stranger than fiction. Anyone who voted for Biden should be ashamed of themselves as far as I am concerned. It is painfully obvious. There is even talk about replacing Biden somehow. If that is not a sure fire sign you have been duped, idk what is. 

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1 hour ago, utalkin2me said:

You are acting like a large proportion of dems refusing to vote for Biden is "normal". 

 

Dems voting for republicans isn't normal at all. Luckily we will be able to see the stats one day.

 

You said it though... it is a matter of how many and in which states. Right. There will be more swing liberal voters in every state who have such a disdain for Biden so as to not vote for him, not show up, or even vote for Trump... since he seems to be for things like UBI and medicare during the pandemic. 

Wishful thinking.

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