With 2020 race all but halted over coronavirus, Biden quietly widens lead over Trump - Reuters/Ipsos poll

[deeks]

12 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

I'm saying wake up. 

Everything has changed.

No YOU said "Again Biden will win because 45 has blood on his hands and bloody hands are particularly hard to whitewash away."

And the i posted video's of NY authorities saying "go to the chinese new year festivals" Now tell me who has "blood on their hands"

[deeks]

8 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Actually, whoever thinks that the cable news viewership is representative of the American populace is living in a bubble.

OK, so representative of people that have> life experience?, own their own home?, retired?, payed taxes all their life?, donate to charities?, raised a family?, Need i go on

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, deeks said:

Alarming is the fact that it is all true, you can add to it the NY health commissioner telling people to go to chinatown and dont be racist during chinese newyear celebrations.

What planet do you live on Even Fox can't make up this sort of GARBAGE!

[bristolboy]

10 minutes ago, deeks said:

OK, so representative of people that have> life experience?, own their own home?, retired?, payed taxes all their life?, donate to charities?, raised a family?, Need i go on

But not of the electorate. For one thing racially skewed white ward.

[earlinclaifornia]

1 hour ago, deeks said:

So you are saying after 3 years of high growth and employment, you would want to back to stagnant growth and low employment. Just ask yourself, truly, who would you trust to get the economy started up after this? Someone that will cut regulations or someone that will impose ''GREEN NEW DEAL" <deleted> on you and businesses trying to build?

Yes Ham sandwich over trump

[Jingthing]

44 minutes ago, deeks said:

No YOU said "Again Biden will win because 45 has blood on his hands and bloody hands are particularly hard to whitewash away."

And the i posted video's of NY authorities saying "go to the chinese new year festivals" Now tell me who has "blood on their hands"

Read my previous post and desist from baiting me. 

[metisdead]

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[moldresistant]

13 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

All of a sudden you don’t support freedom of speech.

It's not "freedom of speech", it's the advertising rules on a private platform.

 

And I find it disgusting that people are trying to cash in on the crisis by targeting people searching about Covid.

 

Google made the right move.

[metisdead]

Off topic posts and replies about Goggle banning ads have been removed. 

 

Other off topic nonsense posts and replies have been removed as well. 

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[thaibeachlovers]

On 4/2/2020 at 7:09 PM, Nyezhov said:

not according to the polls...o wait, they dont count.

They do, but only when they give the desired results.

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

They do, but only when they give the desired results.

In that event, you aren't going to be counting the results of most polls.

[Crazy Alex]

On 4/2/2020 at 4:07 AM, earlinclaifornia said:

What planet do you live on Even Fox can't make up this sort of GARBAGE!

I'm afraid I have some terrible news for you:

 

February 5
Health Commissioner Barbot declared on Twitter, “Today our city is celebrating the Lunar New Year parade in Chinatown, a beautiful cultural tradition with a rich history in our city. I want to remind everyone to enjoy the parade and not change any plans due to misinformation spreading about coronavirus.”

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/03/the-timeline-of-how-bill-de-blasio-prepared-new-york-city-for-the-coronavirus/

 

The Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) declared a public health emergency on January 31, 2020, under section 319 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S.C. 247d), in response to COVID-19. 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-declaring-national-emergency-concerning-novel-coronavirus-disease-covid-19-outbreak/

 

I highly recommend you look into just how horribly liberals handled the initial response to COVID-19 as the Trump administration restricted travel from China and declared a national health emergency. You're not going to like what happens when all the facts come out.

Edited April 3, 2020 by Crazy Alex
additional info

[Crazy Alex]

56 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

In that event, you aren't going to be counting the results of most polls.

How did following polls work out for you in 2016?

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

How did following polls work out for you in 2016?

Not so well as 2018.

[Crazy Alex]

On 4/2/2020 at 12:36 AM, Jingthing said:

I'm wondering if the families of the hundreds of thousands or even millions of Americans that are going to lose loved ones can sue this president for damages due to his extreme narcissism and incompetence in the first few months of this threat that led to the mess we're in now. Such actions would be especially apt against perhaps one of the most litigious characters in world history. Nobody is saying he is to blame for the virus existing. But he is responsible for the response. He has improved but too late to prevent massive deaths. Even now the obvious thing that should have been done a long time ago is to shut down the entire country in a consistent way from the federal level. Viruses do not respect city county and state borders. 

You should more likely wonder if these families can sue liberal Democrats. Take New York, for example. Bill Di Blasio encouraged New Yorkers to celebrate Chinese New Year NINE DAYS after the Trump administration declared a national health emergency. As late as March 13, Bill Di Blasio told New Yorkers to go to a bar and have drinks.

 

Your problem is, you're limiting where you get your news. And it shows. And believe me, I have the Google to keep hammering this issue. Do you feel lucky, ****? Well, do you?

 

 

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Not so well as 2018.

I agree. Not so well. Trump suffered far less losses than both Clinton and Obama. In fact, even leftist media outlets concede the predicted blue wave didn't happen.

 

Now, if you'll pay attention for a moment, check out the topic. It's about the upcoming PRESIDENTIAL election. The last one was in 2016. There wasn't one in 2018. So tell me about your confidence in presidential polls, given your experience with them in 2016.

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

You should more likely wonder if these families can sue liberal Democrats. Take New York, for example. Bill Di Blasio encouraged New Yorkers to celebrate Chinese New Year NINE DAYS after the Trump administration declared a national health emergency. As late as March 13, Bill Di Blasio told New Yorkers to go to a bar and have drinks.

 

Your problem is, you're limiting where you get your news. And it shows. And believe me, I have the Google to keep hammering this issue. Do you feel lucky, ****? Well, do you?

 

 

Is Bill Di Blasio running for President? 

 

Now, if you'll pay attention for a moment, check out the topic. It's about the upcoming PRESIDENTIAL election.

Edited April 3, 2020 by Chomper Higgot

[Crazy Alex]

 

 

On 4/1/2020 at 10:35 PM, spidermike007 said:

You are incorrect again. It must get very hard defending this guy. Watch the portion on Feb. 28th. The inane and inaccurate statements he made. And then watch what he says at the end. A rather extreme change of attitude. Dementia is far better than delusion and insanity.

 

Trump has come in for heavy criticism from political opponents for what they say was his failure to take the threat of the virus seriously when the outbreak first emerged. "Thirty five thousand people on average die each year from the flu. Did anyone know that?" Trump told supporters at a rally on February 28. "Thirty five thousand. That's a lot of people. And so far, we have lost nobody to coronavirus in the United States." "Now, the Democrats are politicising the coronavirus… this is their new hoax."

 

https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-from-hoax-to-pandemic-trump-s-shifting-rhetoric-on-coronavirus

 

 

You say I am incorrect "again". Specifically, what does your post debunk as to what I posted? Additionally, since you said again, which was the other time I was incorrect?

 

So far, all I see is your false claim that Trump said the virus was a hoax- which I gladly pointed out for you.

[Crazy Alex]

3 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Is Bill Di Blasio running for President? 

 

Now, if you'll pay attention for a moment, check out the topic. It's about the upcoming PRESIDENTIAL election.

Great! Let's stick to the presidential election! As you know, Biden is slipping further into dementia with each passing day. Prominent leftists are acknowledging this obvious reality.

 

Furthermore, we already know how wildly inaccurate presidential polls were in 2016. Given these facts (and there are more), your apparent optimism for this years seems oddly misplaced.

[bristolboy]

14 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Great! Let's stick to the presidential election! As you know, Biden is slipping further into dementia with each passing day. Prominent leftists are acknowledging this obvious reality.

 

Furthermore, we already know how wildly inaccurate presidential polls were in 2016. Given these facts (and there are more), your apparent optimism for this years seems oddly misplaced.

Really? Wildly inacurate? They predicted in aggregate a 3 point popular vote margin for Clinton. Off by 1 percent. As has been pointed out, a shift of 70000 votes and Clinton would be President. That's your idea of wildly inaccurate? Fivethirtyeight.com, the best poll aggregator in the business, gave Trump a 28 percent chance of winning. Is that your idea of wildly inaccurate? What inaccuracy there was, was due to the insufficient polling on a state by state level. I don't think pollsters will be making that mistake in 2020.

[bristolboy]

25 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

I agree. Not so well. Trump suffered far less losses than both Clinton and Obama. In fact, even leftist media outlets concede the predicted blue wave didn't happen.

 

Now, if you'll pay attention for a moment, check out the topic. It's about the upcoming PRESIDENTIAL election. The last one was in 2016. There wasn't one in 2018. So tell me about your confidence in presidential polls, given your experience with them in 2016.

Are you living in an alternate reality? The Blue Wave most emphatically did happen. 

Democrats’ blue wave was much larger than early takes suggested

With all votes counted, it’s a larger landslide than 1994 or 2010.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/13/18082490/blue-wave

2018 midterms: A blue wave or merely an electoral adjustment into a new presidency?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/419308-2018-midterm-election-a-blue-wave-or-merely-an-electoral-adjustment-into-a

 

And as pointed out above, the polls actually showed the race to be close. 

 

[Crazy Alex]

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Are you living in an alternate reality? The Blue Wave most emphatically did happen. 

Democrats’ blue wave was much larger than early takes suggested

With all votes counted, it’s a larger landslide than 1994 or 2010.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/13/18082490/blue-wave

2018 midterms: A blue wave or merely an electoral adjustment into a new presidency?

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/419308-2018-midterm-election-a-blue-wave-or-merely-an-electoral-adjustment-into-a

 

And as pointed out above, the polls actually showed the race to be close. 

 

https://theweek.com/articles/806043/what-happened-democrats-blue-wave

 

But still, you fail to address comparing the non-wave with previous results. If 2018 was a blue wave, how would you describe 2012 and 1996? Obviously, you'll come up with words much stronger than "wave". I await your expertise on the matter.

 

 

[Crazy Alex]

22 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Really? Wildly inacurate? They predicted in aggregate a 3 point popular vote margin for Clinton. Off by 1 percent. As has been pointed out, a shift of 70000 votes and Clinton would be President. That's your idea of wildly inaccurate? Fivethirtyeight.com, the best poll aggregator in the business, gave Trump a 28 percent chance of winning. Is that your idea of wildly inaccurate? What inaccuracy there was, was due to the insufficient polling on a state by state level. I don't think pollsters will be making that mistake in 2020.

1) The national popular vote in a presidential election is irrelevant.

2) Quantifying odds of winning that turn out to be incorrect are difficult at best quantify. And pointless.

3) Yes, I'm sure people who pay pollsters will have to find new ways to drive public opinion, given what a hit their credibility took in 2016.

[connda]

Every main-stream poll between now and November will show Biden leading Trump.  We've seen this before in 2016. Main steam information source are beyond unreliable. We'll know the night after to polls close, if there is an election.  November will tell.

Btw, I've no dog in this fight.  Two sides of the same coin.  I could care less about either.

[bristolboy]

12 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

https://theweek.com/articles/806043/what-happened-democrats-blue-wave

 

But still, you fail to address comparing the non-wave with previous results. If 2018 was a blue wave, how would you describe 2012 and 1996? Obviously, you'll come up with words much stronger than "wave". I await your expertise on the matter.

 

 

Were the results as dramatic in the either the senate or the house in either of those years. I think the democrats did regain the senate in 2012.

And you forget that gaining 40 seats in 2018 is particularly impressive given the widespread gerrymandering the Republicans accomplished in the wake of their red wave victory in 2010.

[bristolboy]

15 minutes ago, connda said:

Every main-stream poll between now and November will show Biden leading Trump.  We've seen this before in 2016. Main steam information source are beyond unreliable. We'll know the night after to polls close, if there is an election.  November will tell.

Btw, I've no dog in this fight.  Two sides of the same coin.  I could care less about either.

So, if we go back to a history of presidential polls for the last 40 years, do you think the results would be the same as if a coin was tossed?

[bristolboy]

18 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

1) The national popular vote in a presidential election is irrelevant.

2) Quantifying odds of winning that turn out to be incorrect are difficult at best quantify. And pointless.

3) Yes, I'm sure people who pay pollsters will have to find new ways to drive public opinion, given what a hit their credibility took in 2016.

What about the hit their credibility took in 2018. Fivethirtyeight got it exactly right. What about 2012. 2008? 2004? 2000? 1996? 1992? The polls have gotten it mostly right. What's your problem?

[bristolboy]

But really, your focus on polls is just a way of distracting from the same big issue that dogged republicans in 2018: Health Care. Do ya think health care is going to play a smaller role in 2020 than it did in 2018? Who do you think that issue is going to favor?

[Jingthing]

An interesting compilation of pundits predicting the Biden 45 race if it ever happens. 

 

I think the first guy nails it. It's all about blood on the incumbents hands and his incompetence leading to massive covid deaths. We can't reelect that. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/03/who-has-edge-trump-or-biden/

 

 

Who has the edge? Trump or Biden?

[spidermike007]

2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

 

 

You say I am incorrect "again". Specifically, what does your post debunk as to what I posted? Additionally, since you said again, which was the other time I was incorrect?

 

So far, all I see is your false claim that Trump said the virus was a hoax- which I gladly pointed out for you.

Deny it all you want. I included an attachment of a video where Trump claimed this was a democratic hoax. If you watched him utter those words and are still asking me to prove this for you, there is not much I can do or say. You believe what you want to believe.