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British family relocated to Thailand a week before coronavirus closed down the island - now they’re homeless and without work

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This is the way w many here....where’s my blender, protein powder and my weights for my next class.....JC the newbies!!!!

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21 minutes ago, qwertyuiop said:

No they won't. The NHS is not available free of charge to Non-Residents. They would have to show that they had resettled in the UK, not simply returning for health care.

This particular couple sold everything and have nothing to go back to

Illegal immigrants in the UK seem to have no trouble accessing NHS and GP services. Are they paying?

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Not the smartest of moves 

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8 minutes ago, miamiman123 said:

JC the newbies!!!!

Translation please.

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21 minutes ago, Logosone said:
27 minutes ago, Just Weird said:

Interesting that you know so much about their personal financial situation.  What sort of house did they sell and what car were they driving at the time?  And you know what their mortgage was?  Maybe they need you to be their financial advisor.

Just reasonable estimates. Average house prices and average prices for 7 year old cars not hard to calculate.

 

Also, how much people generally owe a bank when they buy a house is not a magical figure shrouded in mystery.

Oh, I see, bizarre, uninformed speculation, then! 

 

They had an 7-year old car, did they; how old was their house?  So go on, how much specifically did this couple owe their bank for their mortgage?  Did they have any other debts that they had to pay off from the proceeds of their car and house sale?

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10 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

You have to have been out of the U.K. for a considerable time to be refused NHS treatment and then if you return to the U.K. all you have to do is telephone the DWP that you have moved back on a permanent basis and you get all your entitlements once you have informed them .

Once you have been out of the UK for 6 months, you lose your right to free NHS treatment.  

If you have stayed registered with your GP, you would probably be OK if you came back after that.

If you have been away, I think 2 years, you would have to pass the 'Habitual Residence'  test to get benefits

 

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6 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

Other than him appearing to be working or trying to work without the correct visa and WP I do not see their problem. They just sold their car and house in Devon so will be sitting with millions of baht in the bank. They should just enjoy the next few months of holiday in Phangan and when the world returns to normal decide what to do. They are in a much better position than 99% of the rest of us.

 

A few things seem strange in the article. As you say they've sold their house and car - maybe large mortgage and car loan?

 

Having both worked as dive instructors here in 2015 they are aware of the new tighter regime regarding correct visas, WP's etc; and must've read about all the recent tracking down of illegal workers and overstayeers. Or be totally stupid and have ignored all that.

 

They say they extended with a letter from the British Embassy - which suggests a tourist visa, and also say the husband was working as a dive instructor, which suggests illegally. They also say the extension renewal cost them GBP 500! Something a bit dodgy there - why not go themselves? 

 

Finally the wife chips in they're now teaching a little English to get by! Are they dumb and dumber or something? No WP, not likely the correct visa, no teacher qualifications etc etc.

 

Very soon their accommodation may well be provided for them! 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

Once you have been out of the UK for 6 months, you lose your right to free NHS treatment.

Only if you tell them.

I've been away 12 years, still registered with my (former) local GP.

 

You'd have to be exceptionally stupid to actually be refused/charged for NHS care.

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It’s refreshing to see such examples. Proves to me that it’s not just my family that creates idiots (speaking of myself as that progeny).

Bringing kids to a foreign country, having no work visa (or so it seems from the full article and comments by the overly developed foreheaded parents) Is just bloody selfish and irresponsible regarding the kids. Imagine what it’s gunna look like when they’re picked up and taken to a detention centre, the kids will be traumatised!

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3 minutes ago, Mister Fixit said:

Once you have been out of the UK for 6 months, you lose your right to free NHS treatment.  

If you have stayed registered with your GP, you would probably be OK if you came back after that.

If you have been away, I think 2 years, you would have to pass the 'Habitual Residence'  test to get benefits

 

It's a bit of a nonsense, because all they have to give is a UK address. No ID cards, no registration of domicile in the UK. How would the NHS know? They don't send out anyone to check this.

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22 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

LOL, you really think you are getting two Australian ribeyes for 360 baht? When it's about double that price in Australia?

More likely you have some quadruped from Udon Thani, species unknown. Haven't you understood in Asia generally, people tell you what you want to hear?

This is not an Asian, this is a French butcher of my utmost confidence. We're simpatico. He slips me a ribeye for free maybe. I don't know why it was only 360, but I got two for that price. The meat was labelled "corn fed Australian beef". There is no way this French gentleman would lie to me. 

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35 minutes ago, Logosone said:

The NHS don't check though. And since you don't have domicile registration like in other European countries, all that people would have to do is give a UK address. 

 

Even if they had to provide a registered address, they could provide one from their parents.

 

That's not true. Whilst it's fair to say some NHS Trusts are less concerned than others at enforcing the entitlement rules and collecting fees from those who must pay, there has been a tightening up.

 

They would instantly raise attention if they couldn't provide a permanent address and details of their current GP. 

 

Emergency treatment will always be given of course. Not like some countries where the bureaucracy comes first.

 

 

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Wiseman? Right.

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2 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

That's not true. Whilst it's fair to say some NHS Trusts are less concerned than others at enforcing the entitlement rules and collecting fees from those who must pay, there has been a tightening up.

 

They would instantly raise attention if they couldn't provide a permanent address and details of their current GP. 

 

Emergency treatment will always be given of course. Not like some countries where the bureaucracy comes first.

 

 

But surely people move address in the UK? Why can't they just say they moved?

 

Before the NHS can enforce collecting fees they have to know that a person is not entitled to free care. How would the NHS know?

 

Of course they could just give details of their previous GP and the address of a parent.

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