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British family relocated to Thailand a week before coronavirus closed down the island - now they’re homeless and without work


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4 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

So you are changing the description from corn fed to grain fed. I can accept oats are grown in Oz for that purpose, because I once helped a farmer crop 15,000 acres of them. However, grain fed is a tiny minority against what is grass fed IF you can believe the labelling.

Enjoy your steaks, and thanks for a good laugh. As they used to say to me in America, you're not from around here, are you?

 

 

It was labelled as corn fed beef from Australia! 

 

Pretty much every third Australian cow eats grains, even grassfed ones. 

 

I looked it up.

 

No, I'm not Australian. But your beef and lamb is not bad. I would prefer Italian, Argentinian, German or Irish, but they don't sell that here. 

 

Australia allows the use of hormones, so it is qualitatively inferior to European beef. But of course, Thailand buys Australian because it's closer, so not much that can be done about it really.

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Other than him appearing to be working or trying to work without the correct visa and WP I do not see their problem. They just sold their car and house in Devon so will be sitting with millions of bah

Completely irresponsible parents. Moving to a foreign country with their two young children during a PANDEMIC and seemingly working illegally. Then advertising in the world media they are working ILLE

I see a gofundme coming...

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A strange time to be moving to Thailand to try and earn a living in tourism - especially with two young kids. It's fairly common knowledge that the regime have pretty much destroyed the tourist industry here. The Chinese virus has just put the final nail in the coffin. It's not the 1990's - this pair are about 30 years too late. They should have stayed at home and just re-read that crappy book 'The Beach' again.

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32 minutes ago, 2long said:

FOURTEEN PAGES for what was either a non-story or an April Fool's! 🤔🤨

Hey, the TV masses need some poor sods to stick the boot into! 

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38 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

ROFL. Beef in Australia is not corn fed, it's grass fed. That's what those giant cattle stations in the Kimberley and Northern Territory are all about. Corn is what they give cattle in Kansas feedlots. Last time I looked, Australia grew wheat when the drought was not visiting.

While I can appreciate you have a good relationship with your butcher, and you are lucky to get low prices from him, the thought that what you are buying may be deliberately mislabelled to deceive both you and him has not occurred to you?

What is Grain Fed Beef? - Teys Australia

These animals are fed grass for the majority of their lives and then transitioned to grain-based diets. Use of grain depends on customer requirements and seasonal conditions - about ⅓ of Australian beef is grain finished. The Australian grass and grain fed production systems are highly complementary, interrelated and dependent upon each other.
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15 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

Very hard to feel a great deal of sympathy for a couple who sold their home in the UK, and likely moved over here with a substantial amount of money in the bank.

 

I they can`t live in Thailand for 3-4 months they don`t have much money....

 

“And then we think ‘what happens after all of this, what happens in 30 days or if we’re stuck here for two or three months.’

“We’ll have no money left by that point.”

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2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Only if you tell them.

I've been away 12 years, still registered with my (former) local GP.

 

You'd have to be exceptionally stupid to actually be refused/charged for NHS care.

I've been away 16 years and still registered with my GP, whom I used to visit annually when I went back to see my mother who died last year, so no need any more.

Anyone will be treated in an emergency on the NHS, but elective stuff?  Not really unless you can somehow wangle it.  A lot depends on just how long you have been away. 

Habitual residence and all that.  Had you read my other posts, you'd have seen that I mentioned that.

And no need to say someone is 'exceptionally stupid' not to be treated on the NHS.  That just sounds exceptionally pious and somewhat arrogant.

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2 hours ago, Logosone said:

 

They made sure they had a job, they did nothing wrong. Those kids are very young and schooling was not an issue.

 

The reason they are in trouble is because of the global lockdown of economies the father can not do his job.

 

It's not their fault. 

 

Yes, I agree, I would certainly make sure that the visa situation is sorted in a clear manner, so yes, here maybe they were a bit careless. 

 

Of course the move was planned long before the pandemic. But actually during the pandemic, you'd be better off in Thailand, as the UK is going to go through peak infection time in around two weeks. Better to be in Thailand.

 

The reason they're in trouble is because the job disappeared. Not their fault.

 

They aren't in trouble. It's just a big sob story. Friend of mine just messaged me, asking if I wanted work as an English teacher, at a school in Central Thailand.

Since I'm a tourist I had no interest, but passed on the details to someone who does work as an English teacher.

 

The fact is that the family have a nice house on the beach and they are doing fine thank you. 

 

If they were stupid enough to pay 20,000 baht to get their visas extended, then more fool them. Especially when anyone arriving after the 1st of March now gets an automatic extension.

But that is just a lie, since they admit that they went to Samui Immigration themselves.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

These animals are fed grass for the majority of their lives and then transitioned to grain-based diets. Use of grain depends on customer requirements and seasonal conditions - about ⅓ of Australian beef is grain finished. The Australian grass and grain fed production systems are highly complementary, interrelated and dependent upon each other.

 

"In the 1980s and 1990’s, barley and triticale were the pre-dominant grains fed to Australian dairy cows. However, since the late 1990’s, wheat has become more commonly used. Other grains fed to dairy cows, particularly in the more northern dairying regions of Australia, are maize grain and sorghum."

 

Google Dr Steve Little "feeding maize grain to dairy cows in Australia"

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I can't believe anyone would come here now to work in the dive industry.  Over the last 3-4 years many of Thailand's liveaboards moved to Indonesia and Malaysia.  Now even they are in the same boat (pun intended) as everyone else.  SCUBA in Thailand is just not what it used to be and it was getting harder and harder for the liveaboards to even come close to filling their boats for 4-7 day dive excursions.  Until recently many of these boats that had moved to Indonesia and Malaysia were fully booked months in advance and even had wait lists for trips that were months away.  There are organizations working in conjunction with the Thai Navy harvesting and replanting corals in the many areas that have been devasted by over fishing and from boats dropping their anchors on the coral reefs and from the polluted runoff from what are sometimes torrential rains that wash all the dirt and sewage from the tsreets into the ocean.  Pattaya once had pristine corals and abundant marine life a short ways from the shore.  Now it's a great place to dive if you like sea urchins and little else.  

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4 minutes ago, Logosone said:

 

 

It was labelled as corn fed beef from Australia! 

 

Pretty much every third Australian cow eats grains, even grassfed ones. 

 

I looked it up.

 

No, I'm not Australian. But your beef and lamb is not bad. I would prefer Italian, Argentinian, German or Irish, but they don't sell that here. 

 

Australia allows the use of hormones, so it is qualitatively inferior to European beef. But of course, Thailand buys Australian because it's closer, so not much that can be done about it really.

I have to admire your persistence, if not your grasp of reality.

Corn is the stuff that comes on cobs, also called maize. Australia produced about 440,000 tonnes of it last year, mostly in irrigated areas. A thirsty crop. We would not waste it on cattle feed.

Australia produces between 15 and 30 million tonnes of wheat a year, depending on rainfall. Oats are about 1.5 million tonnes per year.

I've traveled within Australia a lot, places the average tourist would never get to see. Cattle might get fed one or two helpings of grain to keep them going on their way to an abattoir, but the vast majority of their lives are spent on pastoral land which is running one steer every 20 acres. On the most marginal land, it's one per 200 acres.

Perhaps the last journey entitles the butcher to describe the meat as grain-fed. Nothing would surprise me in advertising

Australian beef got a bad rap when farmers in the Darling Downs tried to ward off drought by feeding their cattle cotton trash, which was doused in pesticides.

You have obviously never tasted grass-fed eye fillet steak from Gippsland or King Island, which runs 1 head per acre. So tender it can be cut with a fork. If you had, you would not be making such egregiously stupid statements about the quality of meat from other nations.

But hey, don't let me shatter your illusions if you enjoy them.

 

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