Popular Post Maybole Posted April 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 Mods, I can not find a specific thread for this. It applies to Chiang Mai Immigration. If you can find an appropriate thread, please move it. My wife and I went to Chiang mai Immigration at 7.30am. There was a small queue where every body was separated by 2 metres , had a temperature check and hands sterilized, There were two young volunteers, both speaking excellent English, who enquired our business, gave me a number and directed us to a waiting area under a shade. They were marshalling an orderly flow of applicants into the building. At approx. 8am I was called forward and one of the volunteer checked all my papers and required me to fill in forms acknowledging the penalties for various misdemeanors. (Last year, I did this at the interviewing officers desk inside.) We then went inside to the counter where all the papers were checked again and I was instructed to rewrite the application for by hand in blue ink, typewritten not being acceptable. Then I was given a new number and sent to wait at another desk After about 45 mins. we were called forward . I was required to show that my foreign marriage certificate has been seen at the Royal Thai Embassy in London. I still had a copy of the certificate with the Thai Embassy stamp on it but I have been instructed to obtain a an original certificate, authenticated by UK authorities and confirmed by Thai Embassy for next year's application. I will also have to obtain a translation into Thai language of the certificate by an authorized translator and have it certificated by the Thai Foreign office. Also, I must print all copies on single sheets, no doubling of two pages of bank book on one sheet, no doubling of two passport pages on same sheet. TM6, TM30 receipt, TM47 receipt copies must all be on separate sheets. No double sided sheets, where a document is printed on both sides, back and front must be copied on to separate sheets. In addition, next year will require an extra bank statement detailing at least a years transactions for the account being used. We received the usual under consideration stamp and were finished just before 11.30am tm6, TM30 reciept, TM47 bre 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiPauly Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Thanks for the report, very useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ProbPossConf Posted April 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 CM IO's must be color blind requesting forms to be hand scribbled in blue ink instead of clear, uniformed typewritten info. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jimmjam Posted April 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, ProbPossConf said: CM IO's must be color blind requesting forms to be hand scribbled in blue ink instead of clear, uniformed typewritten info. They love to see hand written blue ink, when i worked at a school here. All my grade books at to be completed in blue ink. Must be something engrained in them. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozled Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Is this for 60 days or 90 days, please? And what is a TM47 for? Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoeless Joe Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 3 hours ago, bamboozled said: Is this for 60 days or 90 days, please? And what is a TM47 for? Thank you. Neither! As it says in the headline, it's an:"Application for extension of stay for marriage Chiang Mai Immigration 02/04/2020". The TM47 is:"Form for Alien to Notify of Staying Longer than 90 days" Regards, Joe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 10 hours ago, ProbPossConf said: CM IO's must be color blind requesting forms to be hand scribbled in blue ink instead of clear, uniformed typewritten info. They have been happy with my typewritten in blue ink the past two times. Can do with standard pdf editor. Next time who knows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffandgop Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 For the financial requirements, did you use the method of having 400,000THB in a Thai bank account for a period no less than 2 months prior to making the application for extension of stay or the monthly income of 40,000THB and working in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozled Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Shoeless Joe said: Neither! As it says in the headline, it's an:"Application for extension of stay for marriage Chiang Mai Immigration 02/04/2020". The TM47 is:"Form for Alien to Notify of Staying Longer than 90 days" Regards, Joe Hi Joe, thanks for the info. It's difficult to keep track of the terminology of all the different methods to stay here. I have a non-O and will be applying for a 60 day extension to visit Thai wife. I would call that an application of stay for marriage. I don't know officially if that's what it's called, however. Hmm, will I have to complete a TM47, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenside Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) I can see the point (oops, nearly said "logic") of requiring all the paperwork to be one sided, but can't for the life of me understand why they insist on one passport double page per sheet when two fit perfectly well. Last year I presented beautifully rendered two up colour prints with all of the pages in order and even footers showing the passport page numbers, only to be told the same as the OP for this year. I seem to remember she claimed that it was to make room for the signing stamp, but it's still possible to fit that in if you know in advance. Of course they could make a template form available for download which we could copy onto, but that would be way too easy.... A huge and unforgivable waste of paper. Edited April 3, 2020 by Greenside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post moe666 Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 I give them what ever they want money, whiskey, women, LBs what ever, you can never be to prepared when going to immigration 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baansgr Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 hours ago, ProbPossConf said: CM IO's must be color blind requesting forms to be hand scribbled in blue ink instead of clear, uniformed typewritten info. When I worked...forgotten how many times was told..write in blue...maybe something to do with photocopying...although with color available seems stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baansgr Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 hours ago, ThaiPauly said: Thanks for the report, very useful Always good to hear a positive report. I wonder if some of the front line IOs really wanna ask for all this stuff sometimes, especially now. I have the highest respect for Jomtien who do a fantastic job, just wonder how they are coping with some of the pictures I've seen of queues...they only do what is ordered from above. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 11 hours ago, Shoeless Joe said: Neither! As it says in the headline, it's an:"Application for extension of stay for marriage Chiang Mai Immigration 02/04/2020". The TM47 is:"Form for Alien to Notify of Staying Longer than 90 days" Regards, Joe Thank you, you beat me to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maybole Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, jeffandgop said: For the financial requirements, did you use the method of having 400,000THB in a Thai bank account for a period no less than 2 months prior to making the application for extension of stay or the monthly income of 40,000THB and working in Thailand? Deposit in Bank for two months. I do not understand why they want a full year's details Edited April 3, 2020 by Maybole Second thoughts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
from the home of CC Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Maybole said: Deposit in Bank for two months. I do not understand why they want a full year's details perhaps they are checking for agent deposits/withdrawals.. Edited April 3, 2020 by from the home of CC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerandDog Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Maybole said: Deposit in Bank for two months. I do not understand why they want a full year's details It's to check that ALL the seasoning rules are met. Additionally, I was advised today that CM are now requiring 2 copies of all documents. Edited April 3, 2020 by TigerandDog additional information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneeyedJohn Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 20 hours ago, jimmjam said: They love to see hand written blue ink, when i worked at a school here. All my grade books at to be completed in blue ink. Must be something engrained in them. engrained - hope u didn't teach English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneeyedJohn Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 7 hours ago, baansgr said: When I worked...forgotten how many times was told..write in blue...maybe something to do with photocopying...although with color available seems stupid What is blue, my printer only has black, cyan, magenta and yellow.???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 30 minutes ago, TigerandDog said: It's to check that ALL the seasoning rules are met. Additionally, I was advised today that CM are now requiring 2 copies of all documents. I can maybe see why they demand 12 months statements for the retirement visa with not letting the account drop below 400,000 for the whole year, but I can't for the life of me work out why they need it for a marriage visa application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 21 hours ago, jimmjam said: They love to see hand written blue ink, when i worked at a school here. All my grade books at to be completed in blue ink. Must be something engrained in them. The blue ink shows it hasn't been copied. They also like blue as, with the flag, it represents or pays respect to the monarchy... don't know if that's the reason they prefer blue ink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackdd Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, daveAustin said: The blue ink shows it hasn't been copied. If they ever heard of color copies? When i got my Corona extension on Monday blue ink signatures were also required. But having two document copies on one sheet was no problem. Edited April 3, 2020 by jackdd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elkski Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I dont understand why I seem to have dyslexia when it comes to Visa's? I guess I've never been an alien before or abducted. Have you always needed a marriage to be officially filed in the expats home country for a marriage visa? If so why? I thought many just do the filing in Thailand. How many pages does this end up being? Where do they store all this paper? Surely some government top dogs must own a paper plant. What pages from the passport are needed? Does it say blue ink on the form or somewhere in the instructions? Why as an American does all this pettiness bother me so much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jarse Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 22 hours ago, jimmjam said: They love to see hand written blue ink, when i worked at a school here. All my grade books at to be completed in blue ink. Must be something engrained in them. Or to differentiate an original (in blue) form from a photocopy in black of the original? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Maybole said: Deposit in Bank for two months. I do not understand why they want a full year's details That is the second + extension. The first is two or three months. Forget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 15 minutes ago, Hugh Jarse said: Or to differentiate an original (in blue) form from a photocopy in black of the original? Of course. Thank you ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madgee Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, jesimps said: I can maybe see why they demand 12 months statements for the retirement visa with not letting the account drop below 400,000 for the whole year, but I can't for the life of me work out why they need it for a marriage visa application. I use the 400k method for my marriage extension and was asked for a 12 month statement for the first time this year! Apparently, it's to check that you are spending YOUR money in their wonderful country and not working illegally. I can understand that but make it a legal requirement so that we can prepare for it and not just at an I.O's whim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffandgop Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 13 hours ago, TigerandDog said: It's to check that ALL the seasoning rules are met. Additionally, I was advised today that CM are now requiring 2 copies of all documents. If one is applying for an extension of stay based on marriage, and is using the financial requirement of having 400K deposited in the bank, then the ONLY "seasoning" requirement is that the funds are in a Thai bank, in the applicant's name only, no less than 2 months before applying for the extension. There is no requirement to show where the funds came from, nor is required to be in the bank for any period of time other than the 2 months before applying. After receiving the extension that money can be fully withdrawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffandgop Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 11 hours ago, Madgee said: I use the 400k method for my marriage extension and was asked for a 12 month statement for the first time this year! Apparently, it's to check that you are spending YOUR money in their wonderful country and not working illegally. I can understand that but make it a legal requirement so that we can prepare for it and not just at an I.O's whim! I use the Fixed Account method to "season" my funds. This means once deposited I don't touch it. So it doesn't prove at all whether I'm spending money or not....did the IO tell you that they want a 12 month statement to check if your spending money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madgee Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 12 hours ago, jeffandgop said: I use the Fixed Account method to "season" my funds. This means once deposited I don't touch it. So it doesn't prove at all whether I'm spending money or not....did the IO tell you that they want a 12 month statement to check if your spending money? I also use a 12 month fixed acct which I have had 'rolled over' automatically for the last 7 years with no problem. Immigration wanted the standard letter + 3 month statement (fixed acct). + 12 month statement for my standard savings acct (debit card). I haven't got a problem with this but it would be nice to know in advance. I actually play badminton with one of the IO's and he did (sort of) apologise to me about the hassle involved . According to him the instructions come from the area office in Khon Kaen. In another thread a forumite said his local IO wanted every document on a separate sheet of paper, for the first time so did mine! Very little consistency amongst the different immigration offices makes it confusing to compile an accurate list of requirements. It's virtually impossible to get any similarities even at the same office! Such is immigration in Thailand, never a dull moment. I've taken the attitude of just laughing about the stupidity of it all! Oh the joys of living in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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