Mansell Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, techietraveller84 said: Great reminder to stay off airplanes and cruise ships for a while. A long while. I think the cruise ship industry may well be dead and buried. There are still thousands of people stuck on the ships around the world, and not many news organizations talking about their predicament. Personally I would be crossing a cruise off my bucket list forever....not that is was ever on there. I had friends one time cruising off Greece when the ship was hit with a horrendous food poisoning epidemic. Many friends ended up in hospital in Athens, and came very close to dying. Throw in the Corona... what a nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RubbaJohnny Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 May I add as a former frequent flyer and employee of an airline. Passengers often swop places , with or without consent of crew. On full planes to be closer to friends etc or avoid undesireable flyers due to many innocent factors e.g. baby, sleepers, attire etc.I recall a guy whose 4ft dreadlocks covered teh tray of a client behind in cattle class. On unfilled or almost empty flights folks often like to stretch out on an empty row or prefer a window/exit seat etc. As only foreigners would be invited b PM or dimplomats cannot imagine they were not at the pointy end in business or First class. If Thai passport holders they will have an ID address linked to the ticket and passport. IMHo the announcement seems to imply London tainted. Meanwhile back in the real world Thais are mingling and flights are coming in from many places https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/bkk/arrivals NB In addition to numbers an interesting stat is number of cases and or deaths per million Using this metric Top of the league here. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Country, 1M popDeaths/ 1M pop top micro state San marino within Italy Italy Spain Andorra Belgium France Netherland Switzerland Deaths per million in Netherlands =78 , China =2 Yet a plane is arriving from Amsterdam today. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsider Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Surely immigration knows where these passengers went to from their arivals cards,. Why do they not contact trace them and test them, with repeat testing done to confirm any negative results, along with self quarantine. Lack of manpower, lack of equipment, fecklessness, don't know where to start, not sure what to do, don't know what is contact tracing, can't be bothered, pure laziness - take your pic... LOL. That's what Thai officialdom loves - reams and reams of data. What do they do with it? Sit on it until they get piles. That's what. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropposurfer Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, jastheace said: I would say Thailand knew. Thailands first declared case was only days after china's. yet open arms was the order of the day/month/…. "Open arms" ... Like the rest of the world with the speedy, early except of Korea. Edited April 3, 2020 by Tropposurfer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, HaoleBoy said: Why do they only list the 1 seat with the infected person? They don't know the other seats the infected people were in? People asking about cleaning and turn-around time. These long haul flights have at least a 24 hr turn around time thus easily cleaned. With a 24 hr turn around time even TG would actually be declared bankrupt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonyboy Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, tifino said: Trouble is that the very same planes are being continuouslt reused to these Repat' and Return round trips. The same ones. Take a step back... Each and every airline around the planet, are mothballing all but the very few that we are seeing, doing those flights. High pressure on cleaning staff to try to 'safely' prepare the aircraft during the turnaround time of unloading/reloading... two birds can be killed by the one stone Why aren't the airlines smart enough, to cycle through all the individual aircraft in their fleets? - that are now idle? Keeping them in a time sharing arrangement will keep the entire fleets Maintenance-fresh It will assist in the financial recovery, for when 'normal' flight resume; as the costs will be lower to Maintain air worthiness, then it will otherwise cost to Restore airworthiness... Having the 'longer' rest between the merry go round of musical chairsnof aircraft; would enable a more thorough cleaning of the aircraft too ... unless the airlines have a mid term plan to actually 'dump' those aircraft doing the current 'mercy' flights?? - after this is over Good idea,but,you really do need to stop being sensible or you might end up being told off by the ones that should know what you have correctly stated,yes a non-used aircraft placed in a reserve line could easily be decontaminated with a quick walk through spray,then after a short time give it a blow through to remove the leftovers,could also be done when reaching destination through the ventilation system,again with a good blow through after job done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shackleton Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 This seems a strange one to thinking all passengers are checked for the virus prior to boarding Then suddenly these passengers catch the virus on route I am no doctor or virus specialist but this does surprise Thinking it took days to be active when people catch it ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Dukeleto said: Yes I thought so too but you know what the spin will be “they were coming from dirty farang land” so naturally it’s not their fault so either way it’s not Thailand’s fault. attaching blame to the victims of this pandemic is a childish and stupid act no matter what nationality they are where they are and where they came from - we are all victims of this outside of China. Those in Thailand that point an accusing racist finger at foreigners apart from Chinese need think very hard before opening their stupid mouths. We all know where this originated - we are all victims of this serious "KILLER" contagion that started in "CHINA" - it didn't start in Thailand or Italy or the UK or USA - IT STARTED IN CHINA and we are all paying the same price for their dirty disgusting behaviour Thailand authorities need to stop this childish racist rhetoric now - we are all in this together - we are all victims including Thailand and Thai people 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyL Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Davo369 said: Did they say this when it was all happening from China in Jan.. I recall they had open arms to the Chinese. Knowing full well the situation Of course. They could not do anything to upset their overlords. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricebarnandrooms Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: Surely immigration knows where these passengers went to from their arivals cards,. This shows why it is so important for hotels guest houses Airbnb etc to notify within 24 hours. It was the sane with the Thunami we didn’t know who was in the area at the time, telling parents it’s ok your kids are in Chiang Mai but they were actually dead in Phuket. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post falang1969 Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, HaoleBoy said: Why do they only list the 1 seat with the infected person? They don't know the other seats the infected people were in? People asking about cleaning and turn-around time. These long haul flights have at least a 24 hr turn around time thus easily cleaned. 24 hours? This flight is TG916 and TG917 TG916 arrives at LHR at 19.10 TG917 (same plane) leaves LHR at 21.45 That's 2.5 hours turnaround! I wouldn't want you running my airline! Edited April 3, 2020 by falang1969 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tifino Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, shackleton said: This seems a strange one to thinking all passengers are checked for the virus prior to boarding Then suddenly these passengers catch the virus on route I am no doctor or virus specialist but this does surprise Thinking it took days to be active when people catch it ? must find way to stop passengers touching anything during flight! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante99 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 46 minutes ago, khunjeff said: It's been 2 1/2 years already: https://www.nationthailand.com/national/30326711 Thanks for that. I can no longer rely on my memory so much, got to be more cautious about using it. . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, shackleton said: This seems a strange one to thinking all passengers are checked for the virus prior to boarding Then suddenly these passengers catch the virus on route I am no doctor or virus specialist but this does surprise Thinking it took days to be active when people catch it ? May well have been lurking in the ventilation filters. wonder if the crew could have been the carriers or if any have succumbed to it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJRS1301 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, falang1969 said: 3 hours ago, HaoleBoy said: Why do they only list the 1 seat with the infected person? They don't know the other seats the infected people were in? People asking about cleaning and turn-around time. These long haul flights have at least a 24 hr turn around time thus easily cleaned. Oh no they don't often barely two hours, unless maintanence issues 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Yinn said: Is important if thai or foreigner? it is not - we are all victims no matter what nationality but your government seems to think it is important because they keep mentioning the word "foreigner" in 100% of their press releases related to CV-19 Maybe you should ask your government why they are doing that ??????? outside of China we are all Victims no matter what Nationality Read my above post 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParkerN Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 hours ago, RJRS1301 said: n an announcement on Facebook page of Nonthaburi Provincial Public Health Office Facebook... excellent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Yinn said: IMO no problem. IMO good idea. it's a good idea until you are on the receiving end No government should be turning away their own citizens from returning home - in fact they should be assisting them That is you government (the one you worship) turning away and abandoning their own people when they are in need Go ahead keep defending the indefensible Yinn - a great job you are doing - blind and delusional 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smedly Posted April 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, peterkroll said: - 5 Million people left Wuhan in the few days preceding Lunar New Year, 23. of Jan 2020. - 15. of January 2020: The Wuhan city held a dinner banquet for 135000 residents to celebrate New Year. - 06. of January 2020: Warning of the Chinese Centre for Infectious diseases was ignored. - 31. of December 2019: Doctor Lim and his 7 colleagues where warning on Wechat about a SARS like virus in the Wuhan area. - Mid of December 2019: Wuhan had around 260 cases with virus infections registered in hospitals. The Biolab in Wuhan posted a job advertisement on their website, seeking for a scientist to help to research with a new type of virus. That centre is 280 m far away from the infamous wet market. - 14. of November 2019: 8 people were treated in Wuhan hospitals for an unkown lung disease. - 08. of November 2019: rumours about a mysterious lung disease spread. First confirmed CV-19 infection outside of China was ................ IN THAILAND, a Chinese National 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcolombe Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 =====This plane came from England It is England responsibility to make sure the plane is ready clean disinfected etc and that all passager a=re clear from the virus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MayPutThai Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 6 hours ago, Davo369 said: Did they say this when it was all happening from China in Jan.. I recall they had open arms to the Chinese. Knowing full well the situation The simple point is that Farang are dirty and Chinese not. BTW, did not hear any from Mr Super since the last week. Could it be that he was set now to an inactive position, after all Farang Embassador complaint diplomatic to the Government? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, falang1969 said: 24 hours? This flight is TG916 and TG917 TG916 arrives at LHR at 19.10 TG917 (same plane) leaves LHR at 21.45 That's 2.5 hours turnaround! I wouldn't want you running my airline! and I would want to be on either of those flights - or any flights for that matter unless they were specifically managed by a responsible government who was taking care of their own citizens and following special protocols on arrival 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grobec Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 3 hours ago, PETERTHEEATER said: Thai passport holders do not require arrival cards.......... Don’t Thai nationals have to use the app? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitti Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I know this is TV and many people here like to points fingers at thailand for everything, but just to be fair, while Thailand still had its border opened to Chinese, rest of the world US, EU, UK, AU also kept their borders opened allowing Chinese tourists to enter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sitti said: I know this is TV and many people here like to points fingers at thailand for everything, but just to be fair, while Thailand still had its border opened to Chinese, rest of the world US, EU, UK, AU also kept their borders opened allowing Chinese tourists to enter. people are questioning their data because it doesn't add up or make sense and they are testing very few people - I believe 20,000 in 3 months - with that level of testing how could they possibly know how many infected there really are and how many have died from CV-19 - impossible people are also questioning the childish foreigner remarks in every press release concerning CV-19 We also didn't like being called dirty farangs and being told to (deleted) off by the Thai Health minister Deputy PM - who seems to have now evaporated nobody is pointing fingers as such - we are just questioning their actions and data Edited April 3, 2020 by smedly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilltom Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Metropolitian said: No mentioning that the three are foreigners from UK. So they were Thai who brought the virus with them? Was the plane Thougherly cleaned and disinfected each way??????, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malibukid Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) where they dirty Falangs? Edited April 3, 2020 by malibukid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt1591 Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 5 hours ago, techietraveller84 said: Great reminder to stay off airplanes and cruise ships for a while. A long while. Most cruise ships actually have excellent hygiene standards. On a Princess ship, before this episode, I was surprised by their conscientiousness. Few tourist facilities are as closely monitored. Entering the buffet areas, there were double sink washing stations with someone overseeing guests as they entered. The restrooms had signs posted above the toilets, asking people to wash their hands and then use a paper towel to open the doors. There were bins outside in which to toss that towel. The rest of the ship simply required the same hygiene one might follow staying at any other hotel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yadon Toploy Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 33 minutes ago, pcolombe said: =====This plane came from England It is England responsibility to make sure the plane is ready clean disinfected etc and that all passager a=re clear from the virus. Nothing to do with England. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Getting very boring all this British bashing....... Very childish, but what do you expect ? Do you notice there's no Chinese bashing going on ? Mmmmm, wonder why ? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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