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Every leader in the western world should have reacted far earlier, you have a point there.

 

Trump reacted earlier than Merkel though, I don't see you taking Angela Merkel to task.

 

Of course Trump has the excuse that the CDC did not produce working tests for weeks, so the experts caused part of the delay.

 

I wouldn't compare South Korea, 50 million, with the US 320 million. It's a different league.

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38 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

NO!

The U.S. had the choice of using the WHO tests.

They rejected them.

The CDC is an agency that exists under the 45 administration. The buck stops with him even though he irresponsibly refused any personal accountability whatsoever (as he has done all his life).

 

That wasn't possible, because the CDC insisted that only their approved tests would meet the highest standards in the US. You can read the full shocking story about the CDC incompetence here:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-german-tests-develop-private-pharma-company-cdc-a9406956.html

 

Perhaps in hindsight Trump should have stopped in earlier and insisted that private business develop the tests, like in Germany and South Korea, and later in the US. However, it was not unreasonable for him to trust the CDC, if you can't trust your own agency, who can you trust?

 

It's normal for the governors to take the actions they're taking, we saw the same in other federal systems like Germany.

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43 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

Not sure what you mean by react. Even into March he was minimizing the threat. And, of course, Germany was far better prepared.

And why wouldn't you compare South Korea to the US? Because numbers over 100 million are scary? Over 200 million? 300 million? What rational basis is there for saying that the 2 can't be compared?  The US is a richer country than South Korea but was not prepared as well. 

 

I meant that as soon as Wuhan unfolded all leaders should have closed their countries immediately. 

 

Germany was not better prepared, Merkel did not prepare fully despite a 2012 warning from the RKI. It just so happened spending on the German health system had been ramping up for years.

 

You can't compare much smaller countries with a large country. The swift action that is possible in a place like South Korea is just not possible in a large country like the US. It is much harder to control a country like the US, and to put in place the kinds of steps that South Korea, a much smaller country, put in place.

 

South Korea was not prepared btw. It just so happened that, like in Germany, small companies straight away started work on test-kits when China published the genome. In the US this most likely happened as well, but the CDC did not allow private companies to help, like they did in Germany and South Korea.

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3 hours ago, tropo said:

Good try, but I don't think that's it. Anyway, he said what he said, and if he was wrong, let the person who said it explain his error.

No error by the poster, the error is of your misinterpretation.

 

Saying he is not right 100% of the time means he is not always correct. Not that he is always wrong.

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8 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

It didn't say Trump was healthy,it said he showed negative to Covid19. Mental illness,drug  addiction and compulsive disorders are a different thing.Positive to all!

He is healthy and without symptoms," Conley said.

 

Sean Conley is Trump's physician. He should know more about the health of the POTUS than anyone else.

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8 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I'm getting a bit tired of the Trump admirers who use "Trump Hater" as a label. Fact is, his initial downplaying of coronavirus is going to cost a lot of American lives and American jobs. COVID-19 cases in the USA are double that of any other country. While one can argue China is concealing the real number of infections, it's still a damning statistic.

Harry Truman kept a sign in his office saying the buck stops here. About time Trump was presented with one.

 

COVID-19 cases in the USA may be double that of any other country but their population is much larger than most other countries as well. More than quadruple that of most other Western nations.

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2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Please stop posting debunked propaganda. The blather about Trump refusing WHO test kits has been debunked by numerous sources. Pick one or more:

 

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=trump+rejected+who+coronavirus+test+kits

From the first article that comes up with your link. Lol.

What's True

The U.S. did not use COVID-19 diagnostic tests produced by the World Health Organization (WHO) in favor of producing its own.

What's False

The U.S. did not turn down an offer to use those tests (as no such offer was extended), nor was it unusual for the United States to design and produce its own diagnostic tests in lieu of those made elsewhere.

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2 hours ago, Logosone said:

I meant that as soon as Wuhan unfolded all leaders should have closed their countries immediately. 

 

Germany was not better prepared, Merkel did not prepare fully despite a 2012 warning from the RKI. It just so happened spending on the German health system had been ramping up for years.

 

You can't compare much smaller countries with a large country. The swift action that is possible in a place like South Korea is just not possible in a large country like the US. It is much harder to control a country like the US, and to put in place the kinds of steps that South Korea, a much smaller country, put in place.

 

South Korea was not prepared btw. It just so happened that, like in Germany, small companies straight away started work on test-kits when China published the genome. In the US this most likely happened as well, but the CDC did not allow private companies to help, like they did in Germany and South Korea.

It was maybe no perfect in Germany but nothing to compare with the US.

On top of it, the Germans did not have a leader talking whatever B.S. came to his mind during more than one month.

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