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10 hours ago, Lacessit said:

I'm getting a bit tired of the Trump admirers who use "Trump Hater" as a label. Fact is, his initial downplaying of coronavirus is going to cost a lot of American lives and American jobs. COVID-19 cases in the USA are double that of any other country. While one can argue China is concealing the real number of infections, it's still a damning statistic.

Harry Truman kept a sign in his office saying the buck stops here. About time Trump was presented with one.

 

 I believe 95% of the task force efforts . I leave 5 %  for error! Do you know when the medical experts  in the Usa came to the Administration and actually said ,we need to act!

"The first known case in the United States of COVID-19 was confirmed in the state of Washington on January 20, 2020, in a 35-year-old man who had returned from Wuhan, China on January 15.[4] The White House Coronavirus Task Force was established on January 29.[2] On January 31, the Trump administration declared a public health emergency,[5] and placed travel restrictions on entry for travelers from China".[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Coronavirus_Task_Force

 

Every country has covid virus,instead of dwelling in the past and  blaming anything that begins with t  and ends with p!

What are you doing to bend the curve ! 

 

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27 minutes ago, riclag said:

 I believe 95% of the task force efforts . I leave 5 %  for error! Do you know when the medical experts  in the Usa came to the Administration and actually said ,we need to act!

"The first known case in the United States of COVID-19 was confirmed in the state of Washington on January 20, 2020, in a 35-year-old man who had returned from Wuhan, China on January 15.[4] The White House Coronavirus Task Force was established on January 29.[2] On January 31, the Trump administration declared a public health emergency,[5] and placed travel restrictions on entry for travelers from China".[6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Coronavirus_Task_Force

 

Every country has covid virus,instead of dwelling in the past and  blaming anything that begins with t  and ends with p!

What are you doing to bend the curve ! 

 

And you? What are you doing?

 

Coming back to the chronology you started to display, and then?

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2 hours ago, candide said:

From the first article that comes up with your link. Lol.

What's True

The U.S. did not use COVID-19 diagnostic tests produced by the World Health Organization (WHO) in favor of producing its own.

What's False

The U.S. did not turn down an offer to use those tests (as no such offer was extended), nor was it unusual for the United States to design and produce its own diagnostic tests in lieu of those made elsewhere.

Precisely. Thanks for emphasizing the point. I doubt your pal who got suckered finds it very funny.

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2 hours ago, Crazy Alex said:

Precisely. Thanks for emphasizing the point. I doubt your pal who got suckered finds it very funny.

In case you did not understand what was written in the article, it does not provide the clear-cut answer you claim either.

"Although Trump’s political opponents and some media sources accused his administration of “refusing” to use the WHO test, Fauci’s comment and various credible news reports on the topic indicate that the CDC has a standard procedure for handling diagnostic tests during an outbreak, and that protocol doesn’t include using tests provided by WHO (or any other external organization). We therefore rate this claim “Mixture.”

 

In other words, the WHO did not make an explicit offer to the US, so the US did not litterally turn down an offer. However, by definition, the WHO makes his tests available to any country which asks for it. So the US could have asked, but did not want to use the WHO test.

So, formally, the US did not turn it down. Practically, it clearly did refuse to use a test which was made available by the WHO.

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3 hours ago, candide said:

In case you did not understand what was written in the article, it does not provide the clear-cut answer you claim either.

"Although Trump’s political opponents and some media sources accused his administration of “refusing” to use the WHO test, Fauci’s comment and various credible news reports on the topic indicate that the CDC has a standard procedure for handling diagnostic tests during an outbreak, and that protocol doesn’t include using tests provided by WHO (or any other external organization). We therefore rate this claim “Mixture.”

 

In other words, the WHO did not make an explicit offer to the US, so the US did not litterally turn down an offer. However, by definition, the WHO makes his tests available to any country which asks for it. So the US could have asked, but did not want to use the WHO test.

So, formally, the US did not turn it down. Practically, it clearly did refuse to use a test which was made available by the WHO.

This is all true. 

 

It was however the CDC, not Trump, which advised "No, we do not trust and will not use any tests which we did not produce because we have to be sure the highest standards are adhered to". 

 

That literally meant "ANY" tests, including those made in the US by private companies.

 

The CDC right away proceeded to design and manufacture its own tests. As it then happened those tests were poorly designed and did not work for weeks, so it took them a while to correct this problem.

 

Of course on the face of it it looked like the right decision at the time if the CDC says we only want the best of the best tests. And if they advise you they can make their own, would you as President, not take their advice?

 

By the time it was clear that the CDC tests were faulty the weeks had passed already and it was too late.

 

In this crisis it is experts that run the response. We saw this in the UK, in Germany, and we see this in the US. To expect Trump to step in and say "no we will take this test instead" is maybe expecting a bit much.

 

 

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2 hours ago, simple1 said:

Contrary to the warning by 3M that stopping export of N95 masks to Canada and Latin America is counter productive. trump has gone ahead with the ban. In addition it has been reported by some EU governments the US has been interfering in their supply chain process by offering suppliers much higher prices to divert supply to the US. US actions do not bode well for future relations with allies.

 

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/3m-argues-against-ceasing-exports-of-respirators-as-it-preps-to-work-with-fema-to-boost-production-2020-04-03

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/02/global-battle-coronavirus-equipment-masks-tests

Since Germany did exactly the same, ie halt exports of vital supplies to Austria and Switzerland, I suspect German protests will be short-lived.

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3 minutes ago, Tug said:

He was a good30 days late reacting to it other that thinking it was some personall attack on him he’s still floundering in dealing with it he’s creating more chaos every day by his utter inability to deal with it in a meaningful way his sheer incompetence is going to cost many many lives the economy is tanked and btw he underestimated???hes no expert he has no business none estimating something he knows nothing about that’s the problem he thinks he does and anyone who disagrees gets crucified 

 

He closed the US for flights from China on the same day the Italians did, 31 January.

 

Is there any country that did it earlier?

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7 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Since Germany did exactly the same, ie halt exports of vital supplies to Austria and Switzerland, I suspect German protests will be short-lived.

Unlike the trump administration...

 

“I take this issue of European solidarity very seriously and am therefore certain there will be authorizations soon to export masks to certain countries,” Health Minister Jens Spahn said at a news conference in Berlin on Monday. “We’re not categorically against exports but want to understand what happens, because previously it was so that masks went not where they were most needed but where most was paid.”

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-09/germany-faces-backlash-from-neighbors-over-mask-export-ban

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12 minutes ago, Logosone said:

Since Germany did exactly the same, ie halt exports of vital supplies to Austria and Switzerland, I suspect German protests will be short-lived.

If you took a poll of Americans as to whether they give a whit what Germany says I bet youd be astounded by the numbers.

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