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So, I decided to change the HDD in my laptop for a SSD.

 

Downloaded the Marcrium 7 software to clone the hard drive.

 

Cloned from Hdd to ssd, but no matter what, all I get when putting the ssd in place is "No bootable device". There is no other Hdd in the machine.

 

Tried using a windows disk nothing works to recover or fix or start it.

Watched loads of video and tried umpteen ideas of bios settings and others still nothing.

Examined the files, nothing corrupt or damaged.

Done and re-done it, spent hours, still wont boot or run from the ssd.

 

I do not want to fresh install windows , I need to keep the files/apps I have and just want to duplicate/clone whats there, dont understand what could be wrong here, any ideas please ?

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The most likely explanation is that you didn't clone the hard drive completely.  You may have only cloned the Windows volume from your original hard drive.  Windows may require additional volumes/partitions to be cloned as well.

 

Look here for some help about the required partitions.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/configure-uefigpt-based-hard-drive-partitions

 

It sounds like you have a method to have both drives connected simultaneously.  If that is true, then you should be able to boot from the original drive so that you can compare the volumes/partitions of both drives and identify what's missing from the SSD.  You will probably have to re-do the cloning process.

 

I'm no longer a regular Windows user so a little rusty.  But, hopefully that will help you get the task completed.

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31 minutes ago, gamb00ler said:

The most likely explanation is that you didn't clone the hard drive completely.  You may have only cloned the Windows volume from your original hard drive.  Windows may require additional volumes/partitions to be cloned as well.

 

Look here for some help about the required partitions.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/configure-uefigpt-based-hard-drive-partitions

 

It sounds like you have a method to have both drives connected simultaneously.  If that is true, then you should be able to boot from the original drive so that you can compare the volumes/partitions of both drives and identify what's missing from the SSD.  You will probably have to re-do the cloning process.

 

I'm no longer a regular Windows user so a little rusty.  But, hopefully that will help you get the task completed.

The software apparently (supposed to) copy ALL, it shows images of BOTH drives, and they are identical in partitions volume size, you name it.

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Did you follow these steps?

 

https://blog.macrium.com/techie-tuesday-cloning-a-disk-764bed0ad6e1

 

... i've used this several times SSD<->HDD with various size SSD and HDD no problem.

 

An alternative free source (which i prefer) is EaseUS Partition Manager, which includes a Clone function (whole of drive) and OS copy (copy only Windows OS)

 

If you prefer the simplest possible 'hardware' based solution* look around for a dual ''caddy" similar to this ...

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Many available, they should all have it but double-check it has a ''clone" function.

 

... pop original HHD in 'source' slot and new SSD in 'target' slot and push one button ... it will copy bit-by-bit from one to the other and create an exact copy.

 

'Physical' capacity of each drive is not important eg the contents of a 500gb 'source' drive can be copied to a 200gb 'target' drive.

 

'Logical' capacity of the 'source' does need to fit onto the 'target' drive ... so if you have used, for example 501gb on the 'source' that will not fit onto a 500gb 'target' drive.

 

The caddy will come in handy in future as a dual swappable external USB drive.

 

Good luck

 

 

* of course these devices contain software ... you just do not need to get involved with it ... pop the drives in and push the button and then wait. You do not even need a PC/laptop to use a caddy it is entirely independent, only needs a power source.

 

 

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Posted (edited)

"from pdtokyo "

 

Not interested in a Caddy , thanks

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2 minutes ago, pdtokyo said:

I think you responded to the wrong poster ... but anyway ... this is the second time that i have tried to help you with a detailed post ... similar response from you.

 

Maybe in future someone else will be able to work through the solutions that you are being offered here by me and others, you obviously aren't. 

 

No more help from me.

 

Good luck.

Then try offering something appropriate, which purchasing hardware IS NOT ! and neither is a link to steps that the software produces as you use it.

 

It was all a waste of your time and mine. Grateful for your withdrawal.

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Had a similar problem as the OP.

 

If you reinstall windows through the 'windows recovery option', you will not lose your files. However, you will have to reinstall all the apps that are non-original, as the process will chuck them out.

 

Hope this helps.

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1 minute ago, owl sees all said:

Had a similar problem as the OP.

 

If you reinstall windows through the 'windows recovery option', you will not lose your files. However, you will have to reinstall all the apps that are non-original, as the process will chuck them out.

 

Hope this helps.

Thats the problem, or part of it, I dont want to and cant in some instances re-install the apps I have. I need to keep everything, thanks for the response.

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2 hours ago, Black Ops said:

I do not want to fresh install windows , I need to keep the files/apps I have and just want to duplicate/clone whats there, dont understand what could be wrong here, any ideas please ?

 

I suggest installing a fresh copy of windows 8.1pro/win10 pro (LTSC if possible).   Then hook up the old hard drive in the 2nd sata slot or using a sata 3 to usb 3 cable and copy the necessary files over.  Reinstall any necessary apps.

 

This will be a lot less stressful and still give you what you want.

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14 minutes ago, Black Ops said:

Thats the problem, or part of it, I dont want to and cant in some instances re-install the apps I have. I need to keep everything, thanks for the response.

 

Can you list 3-5 of the apps that you cannot reinstall or find a suitable replacement for?

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15 minutes ago, 4evermaat said:

 

I suggest installing a fresh copy of windows 8.1pro/win10 pro (LTSC if possible).   Then hook up the old hard drive in the 2nd sata slot or using a sata 3 to usb 3 cable and copy the necessary files over.  Reinstall any necessary apps.

 

This will be a lot less stressful and still give you what you want.

I appreciate your response, but I have already stated I do not want to fresh install and I cannot replace some items, I need to clone it all across. Thanks

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3 hours ago, Black Ops said:

The software apparently (supposed to) copy ALL, it shows images of BOTH drives, and they are identical in partitions volume size, you name it.

Two options:

a) Something is incorrect with your BIOS i.e. that the new drive is not set as the boot drive.

b) Your drives are not 100% identical, otherwise it would boot (if the BIOS is correct).

 

Some suggestions:

1) Boot your PC and go to the (BIOS) screen where you can select a boot drive. That is often the F8 key. If you select your new drive and that boot works then look for wrong settings in your BIOS.

2) Book from a (free) Boot CD like i.e. Hiren Boot CD. After you start from the boot CD you have the option to start from you HDD or SDD, try.

3) Use a partition program to look in detail at all your partitions. Is the correct partition active? Are all the other parameters the same?

 

Background info: For many years I used Ghost to clone HDDs and SSD and it always worked. But then I tried this (now maybe two years ago) with Windows 10 and surprisingly Ghost did not clone the disk 1:1.

At that time I bought hardware to clone disks (like suggested above) and that worked perfect. Since then I always use that hardware box. Insert source "disk", insert destination disk, click start, wait maybe 10 minutes (with a SSD), done. It cost a few THB but it prevents lots of headache.

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6 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Two options:

a) Something is incorrect with your BIOS i.e. that the new drive is not set as the boot drive.

b) Your drives are not 100% identical, otherwise it would boot (if the BIOS is correct).

 

Some suggestions:

1) Boot your PC and go to the (BIOS) screen where you can select a boot drive. That is often the F8 key. If you select your new drive and that boot works then look for wrong settings in your BIOS.

2) Book from a (free) Boot CD like i.e. Hiren Boot CD. After you start from the boot CD you have the option to start from you HDD or SDD, try.

3) Use a partition program to look in detail at all your partitions. Is the correct partition active? Are all the other parameters the same?

 

Background info: For many years I used Ghost to clone HDDs and SSD and it always worked. But then I tried this (now maybe two years ago) with Windows 10 and surprisingly Ghost did not clone the disk 1:1.

At that time I bought hardware to clone disks (like suggested above) and that worked perfect. Since then I always use that hardware box. Insert source "disk", insert destination disk, click start, wait maybe 10 minutes (with a SSD), done. It cost a few THB but it prevents lots of headache.

I've never used a hardware cloning solution; but, as I understand it, the destination disk must be the same size (or bigger) than the source.  Can you confirm this?

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My suggestion: re-install Windows on the SSD from scratch using a bootable USB Windows drive.
Then use the old-school way and copy all your files [data/video/music] from HDD to the new SSD.

 

For software programs, just re-install from scratch on the SSD - it should be quite fast.

 

In order to be able to manually copy the data from HDD to SDD, buy an external HDD enclosure and connect to laptop via USB.

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