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8 hours ago, VBF said:

Agree!  And another point is that IF you have an accident or the car breaks down, in the normal course of events it's probably a minor inconvenience.

Currently, you may take an ambulance or police away from something more important, or, in the case of breaking down, a recovery person may have to be exposed to you, in case you are a carrier.,

Irrational stuff. The roads are quieter now. If people need a drive they should have one. Accidents are caused by idiots not sensible people.

 

It's quiet simple. If they cared about lives why sell high powered machines?

 

There is no logic going on with this Corona nonsense.

 

How bout banning high powered machines and junk food.

 

Would save 10m lives a year.

 

 

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They  should  just  accept  the death rate and  carry  on,  instead  they'll  lose  more through the economic  crash.

I know I'm not.   https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-coronavirus-lockdown-long-term-plan     I think it's obvious by now that the hopes and promises of this virus situati

Well I'm with Jingthing on this. It's likely going to be 2 years just to get the first wave of infections worked through globally and that's assuming that places like Russia and N Korea divulge what's

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8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

If it's falling apart after 1 week, I hate to think of how bad it would be after 5 months. They need to get their faces out of their computer screen and realise they are dealing with actual living people, not a computer model.

So how would you suggest the authorities try to stop the virus spreading?

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I feel very sorry for those that really did pull up stakes and would have great difficulty returning to their home countries.  Can only hope some really did plan for such eventualities and have not been living paycheck to paycheck, saving nothing, etc.  The worst thing is Thailand may not have any sort of planning for farangs living there, that have families, or dependents, may be foreigner phobic, etc.  The current regime has not done a lot to endear itself to retirees or even long stay tourists for that matter

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6 hours ago, WhereIsMyRyeBread said:

And no one mentions anything about the imminent threat of 'climate change'. Instead the narrative moves from one hysteria to another.

After 9.11 we got the Patriot Act and the world changed forever and so too the world will change after covid.19

“Those who give up liberty for security deserve neither.”

There's more to the story than a random Chinese eating bat-soup.

 

Thailand produces it's own food which to me is a factor.

Hospitals wherever you go arent able to cope, from America, UK, European Countries , Thailand. There's no cure..so the plan is not get it!

 

I think there's a false sense of security back in the old country wheather you're a brit, american or random european.

You're on familiar soil but the hospitals will be swamped there as in any country and you could easily find yourself homeless if you don't have something already planned.

You could live really cheap in Thailand if you wanted to. 

 

 

 

Co2 scam is old news. Moved onto virus scam.

 

The Nanny State fascists want world control.

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6 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

148,000 people in the USA die from Lung cancer each year and 80% of them are smokers.  Similar bad stupid habits exist for so called heart disease, obesity, and other life choices.  Thailnd's percentage numbers seem to be on par with other countries.  So it kind of peeves me off now to all of a sudden worry about health.  Countries had years to work and be prepared, but instead just pray for a golden cure at the end.  Remember two sayings:  1, Boy Scout Motto:  Be Prepared.  2 : An apple a day keeps the doctor away.

Yep we knew in the 1970s smoking caused cancer and heart disease.

 

Yet they ban tennis and Sunday drives.

 

Very strange.

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20 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So how would you suggest the authorities try to stop the virus spreading?

Ban Cruise ships forever. Ban Chinese tourists for 20 years.

 

Put hand santiser in all shops, bars etc. Space out tables.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Ban Cruise ships forever. Ban Chinese tourists for 20 years.

 

Put hand santiser in all shops, bars etc. Space out tables.

 

 

And you think that would stop the spread of the virus?

 

What about people travelling on public transport?

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1 minute ago, scorecard said:

And you think that would stop the spread of the virus?

Not so much. The virus will spread anyway. Banning Chinese and cruise ships will prevent future ones though.

 

For most people the virus is mild.

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1 minute ago, UbonThani said:

Not so much. The virus will spread anyway. Banning Chinese and cruise ships will prevent future ones though.

 

For most people the virus is mild.

So if it's mild for most people are you suggesting that the authorities just ignore it? 

 

Cruise ships will ban future infections. How's that?

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7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So if it's mild for most people are you suggesting that the authorities just ignore it? 

 

Cruise ships will ban future infections. How's that?

I vote for ignoring it. work on a vaccine and tough it out.

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8 minutes ago, scorecard said:

So if it's mild for most people are you suggesting that the authorities just ignore it? 

 

Cruise ships will ban future infections. How's that?

Use common sense like Swine Flu.

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2 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

I vote for ignoring it. work on a vaccine and tough it out.

so are you going to just ignore it all when someone in your family or amongst your friend gets infected and spends 3 weeks in hospital and possibly in ICU and some die?

 

So you suggest just ignore it. If all governments just ignored it's presence how many citizens would demand that government take action to stop the spread of the disease? Seems to me that would be 99% of the population. 

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3 minutes ago, scorecard said:

so are you going to just ignore it all when someone in your family or amongst your friend gets infected and spends 3 weeks in hospital and possibly in ICU and some die?

 

So you suggest just ignore it. If all governments just ignored it's presence how many citizens would demand that government take action to stop the spread of the disease? Seems to me that would be 99% of the population. 

18m die from heart disease

Corona 60k

 

 

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34 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

18m die from heart disease

Corona 60k

 

 

But heart disease doesn't spread like wild fire and jump from person to person.

 

The virus does readily jump from person to person and makes many people very sick and die and consumes much resources and health workers also get sick and some die, the spread can be slowed and reduced so surely human beings as a group would want it reduced and ultimately removed as a serious problem.

 

I guess what your saying is that the virus should just be ignored, no social distancing, and when someone who has the disease gives it to you and you spend a week / 3 weeks in ICU and you put the lives of health workers at risk and you use massive amounts of health care resources then you will just laugh and say bad luck. How intelligent.  

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36 minutes ago, UbonThani said:

Are we going to enter nanny state lockdowns every 5 years? Cause the Chinese will do this again if they can.

 

Better to just ban Chinese from travel. This is the start of bio war.

And no other people in the world do things which effect the world populace?

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7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

But heart disease doesn't spread like wild fire and jump from person to person.

 

The virus does readily jump from person to person and makes many people very sick and die and consumes much resources and health workers also get sick and some die, the spread can be slowed and reduced so surely human beings as a group would want it reduced and ultimately removed as a serious problem.

 

I guess what your saying is that the virus should just be ignored, no social distancing, and when someone who has the disease gives it to you and you spend a week / 3 weeks in ICU and you put the lives of health workers at risk and you use massive amounts of health care resources then you will just laugh and say bad luck. How intelligent.  

No I didnt say that. It seems you are misquoting me.

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9 minutes ago, scorecard said:

And no other people in the world do things which effect the world populace?

Chinese Gov let this fly for months and covered it up. It most likely started prior to December.

 

Yet we have Cambodians eating bat soup and no virus spread.

 

How so?

 

It seems that the virus wasnt spread by accident.

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59 minutes ago, scorecard said:

so are you going to just ignore it all when someone in your family or amongst your friend gets infected and spends 3 weeks in hospital and possibly in ICU and some die?

 

So you suggest just ignore it. If all governments just ignored it's presence how many citizens would demand that government take action to stop the spread of the disease? Seems to me that would be 99% of the population. 

You are free to have your opinion.  And yes some would die.  What you over look and do not understand that millions of people had or have the virus and with little to no effect.  The extreme actions being done by governments will eventually cause more deaths than this virus did or will.

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1 minute ago, gk10002000 said:

You are free to have your opinion.  And yes some would die.  What you over look and do not understand that millions of people had or have the virus and with little to no effect.  The extreme actions being done by governments will eventually cause more deaths than this virus did or will.

Rubbish.

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8 hours ago, chessman said:

Of course there will be an economy. There have been huge financial crashes before. Societies recover.

There will be a skeleton of an economy...

 

Finance and economy are two different things.

 

You can propell finance with fake money, as central banks are doing now, and have been doing for a decade.

 

But you can't fake the economy: no car production, no plane flying, no restaurant serving food, no movie shooting, no park and amusement park operating, and so on...what is left of the economy? Electricity production...

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1 minute ago, scorecard said:

Rubbish.

It is not rubbish.  They have tested only a very tiny tiny fraction of the world's population.  The so called mortality rates are ridiculously calculated as they only compare those deaths against the known/confirmed cases.  Millions more people no doubt had or have the virus but are not tested.  The actual mortality rate due exactly to the corona virus is a fraction of the values floating around and being stated. 

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3 minutes ago, gk10002000 said:

It is not rubbish.  They have tested only a very tiny tiny fraction of the world's population.  The so called mortality rates are ridiculously calculated as they only compare those deaths against the known/confirmed cases.  Millions more people no doubt had or have the virus but are not tested.  The actual mortality rate due exactly to the corona virus is a fraction of the values floating around and being stated. 

Even doctors say 5 to 20x more people had it and didnt know.

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1 hour ago, scorecard said:

If all governments just ignored it's presence how many citizens would demand that government take action to stop the spread of the disease? Seems to me that would be 99% of the population. 

These are the same people (hopefully less than 99%) who will blame the government for having lost their jobs, once the pandemic over.

 

All these socialist government in the West have turned their populations into crybabies/snowflakes you name it...

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1 minute ago, UbonThani said:

Even doctors say 5 to 20x more people had it and didnt know.

And it is far from conclusive how many of the elderly, smoker, HIV carriers, and other people with depressed immune systems would have died from other things such as various flu strains, etc.  No real details are rolled up yet or disseminated, or maybe not even collected because people are rushing to do things

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Social distancing of 2m is good. I hate kissing, hugging and hand shaking anyway.

 

But lets keep most businesses open from May.

 

6 week lockdown is enough to slow things down. Otherwise China has won. They ruined the world economy on purpose.

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