thaibeachlovers 32,967 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 4/6/2020 at 11:33 AM, chessman said: Am I being too optimistic? IMO yes. Link to post Share on other sites
thaibeachlovers 32,967 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 On 4/6/2020 at 12:11 PM, Sambotte said: It's either the world wait for a vaccine for years in lockdown with riots and economy dead... Either it start to seriously tackle the issue : massives tests, isolation and search for contacts. Still not the official plan it looks like... Or ?... Massives masks (the most obvious and way better than confinement or "social distancing") are still not available, when it should have been prepared years ago ! Upgrading hospital capacity is probably done. Or not... Better cure would be nice, but nothing sure, same for a vaccine. The virus does not scare me (with the numbers we have). The incredibly poor, and restrictive only, "no-answer but delay because we are late, unprepared, or unwilling" scares me. People reacting like scared-sheep too. Masks and Tests are the obvious absolute priority. I don't read much about most countries really doing a serious job here. The masks most people wear don't stop people getting infected as they don't cover the eyes. They are useful for any that are coughing or sneezing. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Deli 4,245 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Simply said: no. The world id not ready and cannot adopt. Apocalypse now in 2020/2021 1 Link to post Share on other sites
elgenon 1,440 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I also am hoping for a vaccine. But it has been noted that this virus mutates easily and frequently, so a vaccine for one form may not work for a mutated form. In America they keep talking about the need for testing huge amounts of people. One reason is, that if they find people with antibodies, then they could be allowed to resume their life. But if the virus has mutated will the antibodies work? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Snow Leopard 1,894 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I think China is going for herd immunity. They dont care how many people die because at the end of it they will have a massive economic advantage over the countries that quite right you said will be in and out of lockdown for the forseeable future. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
chessman 838 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 24 minutes ago, elgenon said: I also am hoping for a vaccine. But it has been noted that this virus mutates easily and frequently, so a vaccine for one form may not work for a mutated form. In America they keep talking about the need for testing huge amounts of people. One reason is, that if they find people with antibodies, then they could be allowed to resume their life. But if the virus has mutated will the antibodies work? Actually, studies so far have shown that this virus is quite stable and is mutating much more slowly than, for example, ordinary flu does. This means that a vaccine if/when it comes should be effective. Link to post Share on other sites
elgenon 1,440 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 On 4/7/2020 at 8:50 PM, chessman said: Actually, studies so far have shown that this virus is quite stable and is mutating much more slowly than, for example, ordinary flu does. This means that a vaccine if/when it comes should be effective. I hope so but not what my doctor told me and not what I'm seeing on CNN and MSNBC. According to that, even if someone has the anti-bodies, they still could get reinfected. I like your scenario better. Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Enzian 812 Posted April 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, elgenon said: I hope so but not what my doctor told me and not what I'm seeing on CNN and MSNBC. According to that, even if someone has the anti-bodies, they still could get reinfected. I like your scenario better. I apologize ahead for making this political, but I think many here would agree with me that CNN and MSNBC, with an election coming up, have an agenda for making this seem as awful as possible. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
elgenon 1,440 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Enzian said: I apologize ahead for making this political, but I think many here would agree with me that CNN and MSNBC, with an election coming up, have an agenda for making this seem as awful as possible. Sorry, I don't believe that. But to each his own. BTW my doctor, who also said that, is a Republican. Link to post Share on other sites
ExpatOilWorker 5,030 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Once the virus is under control, the next focus better be on Corona terriorisme. Every wacko from fanatic jihadists to the bullied fat high-school kid could easily turn the world upside, simply by hanging out at crowded places or taking the morning commuter train. A disgruntled Uighur that failed his last exam at his Beijing training camp could get himself infected and take a tour around the country. Over the counter fever suppressing medicine will let him slip through temperature check points. I hope plans are being made to mitigate this threat. Link to post Share on other sites
Brunolem 7,178 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 3 hours ago, ExpatOilWorker said: A disgruntled Uighur that failed his last exam at his Beijing training camp could get himself infected and take a tour around the country. Failure at this exam is punished by death, so no worries about that... Better focus on the monetary terrorism unleashed by the Federal Reserve, that will take far more lives than any other form of terror... Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post huangnon 610 Posted April 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2020 I'm not alone in thinking this pandemic is an outright global(ist) scam. Everyone in the world has "corona virus" antibodies and pathogens in their blood and DNA, from colds, flu's and viral infections from when they were kids. The supposed "test" for Covid-19 does not measure 'viral-load' or how much of this virus is supposedly making you sick. So basically, anyone can be tested 'positive' for Covid-19, and hospitals with these testing parameters are testing every "normal" sick, old or dying person as having died from this new virus. It's not a new virus, -it's a new 'test' only. The death stats from previous years (Jan-Mar) are no different from 2020. We're under house-arrest while our economies and means of independent business are decimated under the pretense of 'saving lives'. Small, medium, and even big (unconnected) businesses will fail, and the huge corporations will move in and take up the slack, employing people on <deleted> wages and conditions. Other unemployed people will be dependent on the state for handouts, and maybe even deducted "good citizen" points, like in China. Why is no one challenging the mainstream media, or statistics thrown at us? This is basically a coup d'etat on the human race. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Brunolem 7,178 Posted April 10, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, huangnon said: I'm not alone in thinking this pandemic is an outright global(ist) scam. Everyone in the world has "corona virus" antibodies and pathogens in their blood and DNA, from colds, flu's and viral infections from when they were kids. The supposed "test" for Covid-19 does not measure 'viral-load' or how much of this virus is supposedly making you sick. So basically, anyone can be tested 'positive' for Covid-19, and hospitals with these testing parameters are testing every "normal" sick, old or dying person as having died from this new virus. It's not a new virus, -it's a new 'test' only. The death stats from previous years (Jan-Mar) are no different from 2020. We're under house-arrest while our economies and means of independent business are decimated under the pretense of 'saving lives'. Small, medium, and even big (unconnected) businesses will fail, and the huge corporations will move in and take up the slack, employing people on <deleted> wages and conditions. Other unemployed people will be dependent on the state for handouts, and maybe even deducted "good citizen" points, like in China. Why is no one challenging the mainstream media, or statistics thrown at us? This is basically a coup d'etat on the human race. No one is seriously challenging the official narrative because the populations of the developed countries have been reduced to mindless overfed coach potatoes, while the populations of the developing countries have been kept in ignorance. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
mauGR1 8,055 Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Brunolem said: No one is seriously challenging the official narrative because the populations of the developed countries have been reduced to mindless overfed coach potatoes, while the populations of the developing countries have been kept in ignorance. Everyday i have a look or 2 at the mainstream media, it's hard to say if it makes me angry or just sad, to see that around 75% of the sheeple are swallowing it without thinking twice. ..But we knew that already, didn't we.. Let's just try to stay alive, and witness the mayhem which will be the next chapter. Link to post Share on other sites
Jingthing 69,798 Posted April 10, 2020 Author Share Posted April 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, mauGR1 said: Everyday i have a look or 2 at the mainstream media, it's hard to say if it makes me angry or just sad, to see that around 75% of the sheeple are swallowing it without thinking twice. ..But we knew that already, didn't we.. Let's just try to stay alive, and witness the mayhem which will be the next chapter. Shortcut to knowing you're reading a B.S. POV -- the use of the "word" SHEEPLE. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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