kyron Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Did any of those people have pre-existing health conditions?? ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bkk Brian Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 Worldometers is now giving stats for COVID-19 testing in Thailand per 1m population. Currently Thailand only tests 339 per 1 million As a comparison here's a few others: UK: 2,560 per 1 mil US: 4,097 per 1 mil Italy: 10,252 per 1 mil France: 3,436 per 1 mil Australia: 11,233 per 1 mil Poor testing poor reality of the real situation in Thailand https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ 6 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Timwin Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 The new virus is another typical coronavirus. The spreading rate is much slower in tropical countries. Otherwise, Thailand would have been much worse than northern Italy long ago with much more Chinese tourists per year. Thais have taken this also quite seriously. Wearing mask has become almost mandatory in shopping malls and other shops. Many markets have been closed. 1 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Krataiboy Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 Just now, ThailandRyan said: So there is nothing wrong with dying on the train because you had COVID-1.....in what world is that ok. It just goes to tell you folks are not going to the hospital. I am pretty sure had he died at home they never would have tested him for it...... He could just of easily died from a whole raft of diseases. And how do you know this particular virus killed him? There's a big difference between dying with the virus and dying of it. The failure to acknowledge this is falsely inflating Corona 19 death stats. If you doubt me, do a search on the sky-high death rate in Italy. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kadilo Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Timwin said: The new virus is another typical coronavirus. The spreading rate is much slower in tropical countries. Otherwise, Thailand would have been much worse than northern Italy long ago with much more Chinese tourists per year. Thais have taken this also quite seriously. Wearing mask has become almost mandatory in shopping malls and other shops. Many markets have been closed. You been wearing that mask over your eyes? 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spermwhale Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Snow Leopard said: Where did you hear or see this? he's talking out his axxx 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post eeworldwide Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Krataiboy said: He could just of easily died from a whole raft of diseases. And how do you know this particular virus killed him? There's a big difference between dying with the virus and dying of it. The failure to acknowledge this is falsely inflating Corona 19 death stats. If you doubt me, do a search on the sky-high death rate in Italy. Of course - Nobody is dying of CVD 19 in Thailand. Heck - it's probably not even here. Maybe it's not real at all! We bow to your superior knowledge and understanding of this novel virus and all the stats pertaining to it. 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mung Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, kevin612 said: I think the peak is over, tmr probably around 75 cases. So you think the peak is over after a mass exodus from Bangkok not even 1 week ago? COVID-19 has a long incubation period, and we have seen in every country that infections and deaths are both delayed because of it. Examples of this are seen in countries that implement strong lockdown. The UK for example has locked things down now for 2 weeks, and yesterday saw the highest rise in infections and deaths in a single day. Everything is extremely delayed with this virus. Exporting tens of thousands of people from the virus hub of Thailand all over the country, hasn't even had time to show it's effect yet. Couple that with extremely low testing you then have your 'low numbers' Let's be realistic here. 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post spermwhale Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Worldometers is now giving stats for COVID-19 testing in Thailand per 1m population. Currently Thailand only tests 339 per 1 million As a comparison here's a few others: UK: 2,560 per 1 mil US: 4,097 per 1 mil Italy: 10,252 per 1 mil France: 3,436 per 1 mil Australia: 11,233 per 1 mil Poor testing poor reality of the real situation in Thailand https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Have you thought maybe they are not testing that many because not many people are showing up at hospital with symptoms? If you have symptoms they will test you. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, champers said: This time next week we will all be sat in our favourite bars; a girl on each arm; drinking a toast to the great leader. You might wake up from that nightmare shortly. Or is it 'Sweet Dreams are made of this, Who am I to disagree? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bkk Brian Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, spermwhale said: Have you thought maybe they are not testing that many because not many people are showing up at hospital with symptoms? If you have symptoms they will test you. Oh ok leave it to the people to go and get tested once they have the symptoms, that'll do it...............dream on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Get a grip. There is nothing unusual about people being taken ill on trains or in streets. It's part of normal life. We all get sick sometimes. We all eventually die. What is NOT normal is the unprecedented trashing of our traditional rights and freedoms on the pretext of saving us from a virus of modest lethality and dubious origins. Could there be a hidden agenda? https://www.corbettreport.com/mml2020/ goodness. Have you been keeping up with current affairs? People are dying a lot, the best estimate right now is 3.5% of people are dying, it is dangerous for everyone. We all have to do our bit to avoid infection of yourself and in turn our families and so forth. Time to face facts fella and wake up! This is not overblown news hype, we are in a global pandemic, it is a very contagious disease that can make you very sick. As for hidden agenda well most of the world is trashing its economies in order to tackle the virus. So are you suggesting that all the leaders of all the countries in the world have a secret agenda that all the people cannot know? WAKE UP AND STOP BEING A BUFFOON! 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said: Oh ok leave it to the people to go and get tested once they have the symptoms, that'll do it...............dream on Agree, what a brilliant plan, wait until they are sick to test them. brilliant plan and a really good way of tackling the virus. Do you think he is aware that the virus has a pretty long incubation period and that the symptoms are not consistent, most people have mild symptoms, some get flu, some get very sick and die. Testing is the only way to tackle the virus. At the end of the day it has been said by many now that its too late and impossible to stop, all we can do is flatten the spike on infections so the health services dont fall over, it is going to run its course. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teddybeer Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, eeworldwide said: It's not going down. They're just not testing large amounts of people!!!! People are now collapsing on trains and in the streets. It's not getting better - it's only just begun. Do you have evidences? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AgentSmith Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, GAZZPA said: goodness. Have you been keeping up with current affairs? People are dying a lot, the best estimate right now is 3.5% of people are dying, it is dangerous for everyone. We all have to do our bit to avoid infection of yourself and in turn our families and so forth. Time to face facts fella and wake up! This is not overblown news hype, we are in a global pandemic, it is a very contagious disease that can make you very sick. As for hidden agenda well most of the world is trashing its economies in order to tackle the virus. So are you suggesting that all the leaders of all the countries in the world have a secret agenda that all the people cannot know? WAKE UP AND STOP BEING A BUFFOON! There's too many deaf ears and blind eyes. Some won't believe how deadly this virus is until people are starting to collapse around them. Perfectly healthy and fit people and not just the sick and elderly. Let's just hope they get so wrapped up in their conspiracy theories that we don't have to deal with them anymore. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ThailandRyan Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 9 minutes ago, spermwhale said: Have you thought maybe they are not testing that many because not many people are showing up at hospital with symptoms? If you have symptoms they will test you. Why would you think that if you had symptoms they would test you. This is Thailand, and if you have the money to pay for it maybe you can get a test, but normal people as has been stated many times in different OPS are sent home with meds and told to quarantine for 14 days. Do you think that if they died at home the body would be tested to see what they died of, start thinking outside of the box. This does not just hit the old and people with pre-existing conditions. My daughter is a surgical ICU Nurse and has a 6 month old baby and 17 year old boy die from this at her hospital in the US. It takes all kinds to be a self righteous person and believe they know what is really happening as far as testing and treatment.... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 Somewhere at MoPH somebody has drawn a curve on a board for "report it like this". At least they are finally managing their PR. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surasak Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Timwin said: The new virus is another typical coronavirus. The spreading rate is much slower in tropical countries. Otherwise, Thailand would have been much worse than northern Italy long ago with much more Chinese tourists per year. Thais have taken this also quite seriously. Wearing mask has become almost mandatory in shopping malls and other shops. Many markets have been closed. Most of the Thais I have seen wearing a mask,think its for keeping the chin warm. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, kyron said: Did any of those people have pre-existing health conditions?? ???? thats old news fella. Yes vulnerable people are at risk but its killing people of all ages many in perfect health. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 hours ago, GeorgeCross said: sweet, numbers dropping nicely at this rate we'll all be reminiscing about the 'rona days by songkran ???? Given their competency, I'm pretty sure one day some poor trainee takes their magic formula and accidentally reports negative figures. Zombie time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wavel Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 A lot of you expatriate keyboard warriors paint a gloomy picture of nation that you choose to call your home, ie LOS. Are you British, American, Spanish or heaven forbid Italian. Pray tell everyone where would you rather be now in the country of your birth or here. Sure a lot less people are tested here than elsewhere, & i assume many are to scared to go to hospital to be tested, just like every other nation out there. I'm a British Citizen living here in Thailand, but i need to go back to the UK to work, Will i go back, can I go back? No way will I, I feel a lot safer here than the place of my birth, & i'm sure you lot do to. So please you keyboard warriors. Let us all start writing about some positive issues, regarding Covid 19, instead of the dross i get fed with by you lot every day. Some of you are an absolute embarrassment. Slagging one another off in the security of your own little cocoon. A lot of us are senior citizens & i'm sure It would be far better for everybody, if all of us expatriates wrote about intelligent issues. Their is less people that have been tested for Covid 19 here in Thailand than have died in the UK. Thank your lucky stars that your here. 2 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DrTuner Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 3 hours ago, dinsdale said: More and more I believe the CCP model is being used. Of course it is: https://www.thaienquirer.com/7301/thai-media-is-outsourcing-much-of-its-coronavirus-coverage-to-beijing-and-thats-just-the-start/ After they deleted the pending test numbers, also from old reports, they are now free to do a CCP style controlled reporting stream. Will be a nice smooth curve without any irregularities, the comrade virus obeys the cadres. 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, ThailandRyan said: Why would you think that if you had symptoms they would test you. This is Thailand, and if you have the money to pay for it maybe you can get a test, but normal people as has been stated many times in different OPS are sent home with meds and told to quarantine for 14 days. Do you think that if they died at home the body would be tested to see what they died of, start thinking outside of the box. This does not just hit the old and people with pre-existing conditions. My daughter is a surgical ICU Nurse and has a 6 month old baby and 17 year old boy die from this at her hospital in the US. It takes all kinds to be a self righteous person and believe they know what is really happening as far as testing and treatment.... Nice to hear someone who has his head screwed on over this. Shame we cant all think alike, perhaps if we did we really would have a fighting chance of cutting the life of this virus. I suspect it is now going to run its course with millions infected and hundreds of thousands losing their lives. stay safe fella, good luck. Oh, and hats off to your daughter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Wavel said: A lot of you expatriate keyboard warriors paint a gloomy picture of nation that you choose to call your home, ie LOS. Are you British, American, Spanish or heaven forbid Italian. Pray tell everyone where would you rather be now in the country of your birth or here. Sure a lot less people are tested here than elsewhere, & i assume many are to scared to go to hospital to be tested, just like every other nation out there. I'm a British Citizen living here in Thailand, but i need to go back to the UK to work, Will i go back, can I go back? No way will I, I feel a lot safer here than the place of my birth, & i'm sure you lot do to. So please you keyboard warriors. Let us all start writing about some positive issues, regarding Covid 19, instead of the dross i get fed with by you lot every day. Some of you are an absolute embarrassment. Slagging one another off in the security of your own little cocoon. A lot of us are senior citizens & i'm sure It would be far better for everybody, if all of us expatriates wrote about intelligent issues. Their is less people that have been tested for Covid 19 here in Thailand than have died in the UK. Thank your lucky stars that your here. there is a big difference between "painty a gloomy picture" and getting to grips with the facts. This is a very serious issue, one like we have never seen,, fact, face it, treat is seriously. I would 100% rather be in the UK then in a country that cant even test people to understand the spread. Also I would rather be here (in the UK) because I know what the situation is, there is very clear advice and should things go wrong for me and I contract it i have medical help on my doorstep without the demand of 20,000 baht just to step in the door. Im glad you were not around to fight the war instead of my Grandfather.... 4 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsamui Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Corona virus comes in many dozens of forms but there is only one variety identified as Covid-19. Covid 19 is much more communicable and more virulent than the other Corona viruses. The test For covid-19 takes a couple of days to complete in a specialist lab that's not overstressed - and much longer than this when overloaded. Thailand (and most other nations too) is only doing the short test initially. The quick tests that are needing to be done on the spot are inconclusive and detect ALL strains of corona, including Covid-19. Therefore all positives are told to go away and see what happens in isolation. If they get better it's flu. If they get worse it's covid and they're hospitalised (if they can afford it). The UK, for instance last week had 20,000 cases of covid, but this was out of 128,000 people who tested positive and were self isolated. Therefore 15% of the "positives" had got covid. The remaining 85% had either flu or something else. In the northern hemisphere this is running parallel with seasonal flu, which alone causes 17,000 deaths in the UK every year. Thailand averages far less; 6,000 to 7,000 cases of flu per year. With the indecisive testing process and the added Covid cases on top of the already-existing life-threatening seasonal flu cases, health services and hospitals aren't able to cope - hence the Thai Gov's advice to self-isolate to see what happens. In a month (or so) the seasonal flu will disappear, and we wait to see what happens to the covid - whether it is more resilient, or whether it also dies away. But my feeling is that if you normally don't get seasonal flu, even without having annual vaccinations (and Thailnd rarely ever gets any cases in the south, only in central and northern areas) then you have roughly only a 15% chance of getting Covid - OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT'S IT'S NOW BEING TRANSMITTED MAINLY BY SURFACE CONTACT. Constant hand-cleansing is vital. The actual numbers here are as usual - in Thailand, anyway - pulled out of a hat (other than possibly the deaths) as you can bet your lung-dissolving life that no officials in Thailand now have the faintest idea - other than the fact it's rampant . . . shhhh - it's a secret. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, AgentSmith said: There's too many deaf ears and blind eyes. Some won't believe how deadly this virus is until people are starting to collapse around them. Perfectly healthy and fit people and not just the sick and elderly. Let's just hope they get so wrapped up in their conspiracy theories that we don't have to deal with them anymore. interesting thought. Stay safe, good luck. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dap Posted April 4, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 4, 2020 It is absolutely frightening to see how many posters here believe the virus is retreating. This has a long way to go before it will be safe to be out and about socializing at your favorite night spots the way you did 2 months ago. I would think that the incredibly high numbers of dead and dying folk around the world as well as the overburdened medical facilities and staff might have struck some sense of reality into some of you. You people are downright scary 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, robsamui said: Corona virus comes in many dozens of forms but there is only one variety identified as Covid-19. Excuse me for being pedantic, but COVID-19 is the disease which is caused by the virus named SARS-CoV-2. I'd just like to point that one out because the virus is closely related to the SARS-CoV virus from the 2003 epidemic. Edited April 4, 2020 by DrTuner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 (edited) I think I'll put this here again: https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-act-today-or-people-will-die-f4d3d9cd99ca Look familiar? Make note of the ~2 week delay in the peaks. Edited April 4, 2020 by DrTuner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAZZPA Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 29 minutes ago, eeworldwide said: Of course - Nobody is dying of CVD 19 in Thailand. Heck - it's probably not even here. Maybe it's not real at all! We bow to your superior knowledge and understanding of this novel virus and all the stats pertaining to it. i have no words. Carry on as usual, mix in crowds, eat out and go buy stuff from the shop wherever you can. The rest of the sensible people in the world will carry on doing their bit to beat the virus. I guess you will be one of the cannon fodder. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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