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March 29th 2020 Malaysia Chloroquine, a drug used for malaria, has been used to treat Covid-19 patients since the first wave of the outbreak in Malaysia and shown its efficacy, says Health director-general Datuk Dr Noor Hisham Abdullah. He explained that the number of deaths due to the virus had increased as the patients were either elderly, had comorbidities such as high blood pressure and kidney disease, or those who sought treatment at a later stage or after they began having breathing difficulties.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2020/03/29/chloroquine-used-to-treat-covid-19-patients-since-first-wave-says-health-d/1851457

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April 2nd 2020 Sermo Survey of 6,200 Doctors in 30 countries reveals Hydroxychloroquine was overall chosen as the most effective therapy amongst COVID-19 treaters from a list of 15 options (37% of COVID-19 treaters)

https://www.sermo.com/press-releases/largest-statistically-significant-study-by-6200-multi-country-physicians-on-covid-19-uncovers-treatment-patterns-and-puts-pandemic-in-context/

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Dr. Pier Luigi Bartoletti, Deputy National Secretary of the Italian Federation of General Practitioners, explains: The drug “is already giving good results” ... “every single person with Covid-19 that has early signs, like a cough or a fever for example, is now being treated with the anti-malaria drug. We have just understood that the virus has an evolution in two phases and that it is during the second phase, after a few days (about a week), that the situation can suddenly, in 24 or 48 hours, worsen and leads to respiratory failure requiring intensive care.”

 

The results that we are starting to accumulate suggest that hydroxychloroquine administered early, gives the possibility of avoiding this evolution in a majority of patients and is also helping us to prevent hospitals from filling up.”

https://www.trustnodes.com/2020/03/29/italy-finally-starts-mass-treatment-with-hydroxychloroquine

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gee... if only nature had come to the fore; and enabled grapefruits to save the day!  - all that natural Quinine, that some the above mentioned/quoted drugs are a synthesis of... 

 

luv 'em... but mrs is like Obleix who cannot take any more of the magical Druid potion - for in her case she was dropped in a case  of malaria when she was a kid

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17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think that with the above vile post that the time has come for any exchange between us to come to a long overdue ending point. 

 

Goodbye and good luck. 

Now that is a 100% typical example of the double standard behavior of liberals! In two different posts you accused me, and other Trump supporters, of cult mentality. But when the same accusation is pointed in your direction (where it belongs!), you throw a hissy fit, brand it as a "vile post", and cut off conversation with the accuser. Are you so blind that you can't see your own hypocricy?

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14 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Unfortunately that's a highly biased far right wing pro 45 channel, even to the right of Fox News. So they wouldn't dare broadcast anything that could seen as skepticism about this med such as from Dr. Fauci. That said, it's great to hear of promising news even in the context of atrocious political bias, and I'm sure people all over the world are looking forward to the results of the various tests and studies that are being done now. So if this is a big answer. great. If not, there are other therapies worth testing as well. 

So sad that your membership in the Trump haters cult prevented you from posting only the portion of this post that begins with "it's great to hear ..." That was the proper response. The hatred for Trump and all conservatives was totally unnecessary. 

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1 minute ago, patsfangr said:

So sad that your membership in the Trump haters cult prevented you from posting only the portion of this post that begins with "it's great to hear ..." That was the proper response. The hatred for Trump and all conservatives was totally unnecessary. 

No. Garbage propaganda sources need to be pointed out. Actually they shouldn't be used at all.

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9 minutes ago, patsfangr said:

Now that is a 100% typical example of the double standard behavior of liberals! In two different posts you accused me, and other Trump supporters, of cult mentality. But when the same accusation is pointed in your direction (where it belongs!), you throw a hissy fit, brand it as a "vile post", and cut off conversation with the accuser. Are you so blind that you can't see your own hypocricy?

There is no equivalence. The President's political movement is objectively a cult of personality. That's a real thing in the world now and throughout history. Were you not aware of that? 

 

People in opposition to strong man cult of personality leaders are objectively not cults of personality. By definition you need a specific individual leader that meets the characteristics of a cult of personality movement leader for that to be. The opposition to 45 has nothing like that. 

Please be more careful with your specious personal accusations. 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No. Garbage propaganda sources need to be pointed out. Actually they shouldn't be used at all.

Any comment on the half dozen or so international videos posted by Steven Brothers? All "right wing propaganda" are they? Seriously, your absolute, unconditional, brainwashed hatred for Donald Trump has you blinded to even the possibility that he might say or do anything positive on any subject. Sad. Very sad. 

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Ok

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

I think that with the above vile post that the time has come for any exchange between us to come to a long overdue ending point. 

 

Goodbye and good luck. 

You Trump haters can dish it out but cannot handle it back.

Long overdue? I've never met you. Constant Trump bashing is just boring dude. Find something else to do.

 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

There is no equivalence. The President's political movement is objectively a cult of personality. That's a real thing in the world now and throughout history. Were you not aware of that? 

 

People in opposition to strong man cult of personality leaders are objectively not cults of personality. By definition you need a specific individual leader that meets the characteristics of a cult of personality movement leader for that to be. The opposition to 45 has nothing like that. 

Please be more careful with your specious personal accusations. 

I give you ... Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi - co-leaders of your cult. You can put either one on top, and the other as the "right hand of god".

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9 minutes ago, patsfangr said:

I give you ... Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi - co-leaders of your cult. You can put either one on top, and the other as the "right hand of god".

Sorry but you are obviously uninformed about the definition of what a political cult of personality movement actually is. It's a real thing. Perhaps you might wish to educate yourself with some basic research before posting such obviously wrong examples again. Pelosi is a normal politician and HRC is a normal ex politician. Neither are or were leaders of political cult of personality movements. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Sorry but you are obviously uninformed about the definition of what a political cult of personality movement actually is. It's a real thing. Perhaps you might wish to educate yourself with some basic research before posting such obviously wrong examples again. Pelosi is a normal politician and HRC is a normal ex politician. Neither are or were leaders of political cult of personality movements. 

 

Potayto - potahto! Trump haters all have the same consistent trait. They will not accept anything Trump says or does as truth or positive action. They are as closed to counter evidence as are the members of any cult, by any definition. The semantics are not the core of my point. The consistent, close-minded hatred is that point. 

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