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Back-tax fines and cost - buying used scooter

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5 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

I wouldn't worry. Just takes a bit more time to get a new bike, probably a few more tests etc. I would give it a try.

 

What? Why would anyone thinkg a bike would be impounded and destroyed? I don't think anyone thinks that Oo

Well you tell me you seem to be the expert.

All I did is say what had done with a bike over 3 years out of date with road tax and you're making an issue of it. 

If you don't like the true of what I have to say or what I think other people on here think don't read it. 

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5 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well you tell me you seem to be the expert.

All I did is say what had done with a bike over 3 years out of date with road tax and you're making an issue of it. 

If you don't like the true of what I have to say or what I think other people on here think don't read it. 

Not sure why this is going the direction it's going but all I said was that yes when the bike has not been taxed for 3 years it seems that the registration is cancelled and a new one has to be done. You said that's not the case so I provided references as to why I think it is.

 

That means the transfer is not instant as it normally would be if the registration was still valid. So, instead of just going to the DLT, the current owner backpaying the taxes and then moving the bike to over to the new owner right that day and the buyer handing over the cash, the current owner would have to backpay the taxes and get a new registration for the bike which is a bit more involved and from my experience also not instant. It's not a showstopper though.

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45 minutes ago, eisfeld said:

Not sure where you got all that information from but the law that I linked is pretty old and said 3 years. And only Kwasaki said that that's not the case but pretty sure that's not right (e.g. the law is still in effect).

 

It's definitely not 20k THB or 80K for a big bike. Where did you get this idea?

 

If some shops charge 3k THB for registration and that includes a profit margin for them, what do you think the real price is?

A new book cost me 350baht or 450 baht can't remember not expensive and not any hassle what so ever I would say to anyone go to DLT and get it sorted. 

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3 hours ago, eisfeld said:

Not sure where you got all that information from but the law that I linked is pretty old and said 3 years. And only Kwasaki said that that's not the case but pretty sure that's not right (e.g. the law is still in effect).

 

It's definitely not 20k THB or 80K for a big bike. Where did you get this idea?

 

If some shops charge 3k THB for registration and that includes a profit margin for them, what do you think the real price is?

When the green book expires it's not simply a question of some kind of transferring process, the bike is treated as a new and unregistered vehicle and needs a completely new registration document issuing, with new plates, I believe.

 

I understand that just about every province interprets the law in a different way - hence the conflicting opinions in the replies here.

 

The " "20K and 80K" is my oversight - I'm thinking about the cost of trying to register an imported bike with only an invoice - apologies, my bad, it's not the same thing at all.

 

It now turns out that my original question is irrelevant - seemingly the tax on the bike I want to buy is out of date by 3 years and 10 months (a shifty seller telling lies about the tax).

 

Thus I'll let him re-tax the bike, if he can with a dead book. THEN we'll go together to transfer the ownership, if that's possible, before I pay him anything.

 

Thanks again for all the (contrasting) info!

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Yea I think it's a good idea to let him re-register the bike first and then do the transfer at the DLT with him. Not a good sign at all though if a bikes registration is not up2date. Maybe not even in the sellers name? Be careful and make sure it's all 100% ok. Also check the bike as many owners who don't even bother with road tax probably also don't follow any maintenance schedules.

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Not what you are asking about, but there is a guy sells bikes on the bend opposite the little petrol station on the airport road.

Coming from Bangrak, about 200 metres after the little turn where you can cut back around the end of the runway.

He always seems to have, or can get what people people want.

 

I think all Hondas, but I might be wrong. All look clean.

 

HTH

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16 hours ago, robsamui said:

The " "20K and 80K" is my oversight - I'm thinking about the cost of trying to register an imported bike with only an invoice - apologies, my bad, it's not the same thing at all.

Since 2012 - I think - impossible to register a second hand bike.

No matter what papers you have.

Unless you become a licensed importer, and jump thru a year of hoops.

Unless you know someone with some pull.

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20 hours ago, eisfeld said:

I wouldn't worry. Just takes a bit more time to get a new book, probably a few more tests etc. I would give it a try.

 

What? Why would anyone thinkg a bike would be impounded and destroyed? I don't think anyone thinks that Oo

Here at TV you have every opinion you can think of. A "friend of a friend" said this and that,then suddenly it becomes the truth. 

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Fines are prorated, scooter 100฿/year and car 20%/year. If previews owner cancelled registration, there will be no fines. Pay for new plates and get new green or blue book. Just ask your friendly Land Transport officer. 

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On 4/5/2020 at 12:47 PM, robsamui said:

But can anyone tell me what the cost in fines and back-tax will be for this? I need to haggle the seller down a bit as I'll have to pay for this.

I would negotiate with the seller that he gets this in order before you actually buy it.

 

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Not taxed for 3 years, walk away. Plenty of legit Clicks out there.

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