Jump to content
BANGKOK
webfact

PM Johnson moved to intensive care as COVID-19 symptoms worsen

Recommended Posts

4 hours ago, nauseus said:

Twenty paces should satisfy social distancing requirements but they will have to boil the handbags first and then throw them at each other. 

Whilst wearing new gloves

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

fake news dreampt up by the lefty press.. he is stable on various medications

  • Like 1
  • Confused 1
  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lets hope and pray that our Prime Minister has a decent haircut , on the NHS.

 Money well spent , imho ..

 

  • Haha 1
  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
9 hours ago, gargamon said:

You clearly don't understand numbers, do you? You don't average the total count by the number of days to get a number usable for anything. 100 days ago there were 0 deaths per day. Today 854 people died, and that number is increasing exponentially every day. Do I need to explain to you what exponentially means too?

Do you understand what 1% mortality means?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 hours ago, gargamon said:

You clearly don't understand numbers, do you? You don't average the total count by the number of days to get a number usable for anything. 100 days ago there were 0 deaths per day. Today 854 people died, and that number is increasing exponentially every day. Do I need to explain to you what exponentially means too?

 

Clearly you need it explained to you because zero times any exponential function is still zero. So it must have been polynomial at some point.

 

How do you know it is increasing exponentially now? Do you have access to the raw data, or are you simply repeating what you have heard?  When did the exponential knee kick in because it couldn't have gotten there from zero? Assuming you do have the data, can you tell us the base of the exponential? Just the doubling time would be fine. We can calculate it from there.

 

I may sound flippant, but I am being serious. I have tried to fit real data to these models, and most of the time I can't. Mostly because I just don't have the real data, but I think it is only prudent to point out that if I can't find the data, you probably can't either. So we need to be careful about the rumors we repeat.

 

Nobody knows anything for sure. We are all relying on the "experts". And I hope I don't have to tell you that "experts" have an agenda just like the rest of us.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A baiting post directed to another member has been removed. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, Monomial said:

 

Clearly you need it explained to you because zero times any exponential function is still zero. So it must have been polynomial at some point.

 

How do you know it is increasing exponentially now? Do you have access to the raw data, or are you simply repeating what you have heard?  When did the exponential knee kick in because it couldn't have gotten there from zero? Assuming you do have the data, can you tell us the base of the exponential? Just the doubling time would be fine. We can calculate it from there.

 

I may sound flippant, but I am being serious. I have tried to fit real data to these models, and most of the time I can't. Mostly because I just don't have the real data, but I think it is only prudent to point out that if I can't find the data, you probably can't either. So we need to be careful about the rumors we repeat.

 

Nobody knows anything for sure. We are all relying on the "experts". And I hope I don't have to tell you that "experts" have an agenda just like the rest of us.

854 deaths yesterday, 938 today(Wednesday I think). You need more than that to show the numbers are going the wrong way?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 hours ago, elliss said:

Lets hope and pray that our Prime Minister has a decent haircut , on the NHS.

 Money well spent , imho ..

 

At least he's got hair.....🤫

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 minutes ago, transam said:

At least he's got hair.....🤫

Macron is amazingly more sexy, but sadly he is into old women, not alpha kangaroos.

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Once Boris was hospitalised I considered him as a dead man walking,still do.   If Boris has not got pneumonia,what the hell is it?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 4/8/2020 at 2:17 AM, sirineou said:

if he is the best you guys  have produced since 1955.........................

No, the best PM we had was Margaret Thatcher.

 

She would have had great fun with Labour under Jeremy Corbyn.

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
15 hours ago, gargamon said:

854 deaths yesterday, 938 today(Wednesday I think). You need more than that to show the numbers are going the wrong way?

 

At issue is whether or not the SIR models are correct. Not whether people are dying, which is obvious. People always die. Keep in mind that serious harm is being inflicted on people due to this lockdown. Millions are going to have their lives ruined. The fallout from this lockdown is also going to result in huge numbers of deaths that wouldn't have occurred otherwise.

 

This requires more than just saying "the numbers are going in the wrong way."  It requires a detailed and verified model showing that what we are doing now is really worth it and the only possible solution.  Right now, all I can find is a bunch of suspect data and secrecy, along with a plea to listen to the "experts".

 

But that isn't science. As Richard Feynman famously quoted "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts." That sentence says so much so eloquently.

 

If I can't independently confirm what is being reported, then how do I know it is real? With something this important, full disclosure is the only acceptable path forward. And we are not getting that from anyone in authority right now.

 

Just because people are dying does not mean this is justified.

 

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...