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Thailand is not known to tell the truth in any matters that can affect the tourist dollars.

 

Only after the international community reported in, did Thailand start reporting cases.

 

The government cannot be trusted to tell the truth, however, how they are all happy because a 1.2 trillion baht budget will be divided up and put in politician's pockets making them all millionaires on the world stage.

 

There are 8 billion people in the world. CV has 75,000 deaths. 

 

Due the math. There are much worse killers than this virus.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, rumak said:

I wonder what new regulations are coming after this event .   forced inoculations with chips

secretly  implanted ?    

 

Yep, and maybe a cashless society, so we can sleep better at night :whistling:

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1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

after about 3 months, it is becoming clear that certain populations (caucasians) are more at risk than others.

 

It also appears that the climate is playing a role, with much less cases in hot countries than in cooler ones.

My instinct is that you are correct, or there is another factor that is playing a big part that is not yet known about. But I wouldn't say it is clear, and any country that decides to stop social distancing measures is going to be taking a huge risk. There are lots of countries with lesser health services and few ICU beds that might be even worse affected,

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26 minutes ago, bwpage3 said:

There are 8 billion people in the world. CV has 75,000 deaths.

Look at the graphs. It is not the number of deaths, it is the rate of increase. We can all spout conspiracy theories about greedy politicians but the fact remains that something had to be done.

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4 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

temporary of course...

Like the creation of the sticker at the beginning of the 1950s in France, which was to be very temporary and which was only deleted a few years ago;
this period only lasted 60 years ...

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3 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

We will know soon enough what they have in store for us.

 

Already yesterday the French finance minister talked about the economic collapse.

 

With the pandemic slowly receding, the politicians and the media are going to start focusing the discourse on the economy, in order to prepare the populations for the next restrictions, and this is when they will show their cards.

 

Still under the shock, and so more easily manipulated, the populations will be asked to make sacrifices...temporary of course...

 

Well, as much as i dislike the politicians, most of them, i guess, are confused and afraid as the rest of us.

Probably they know by now that saying "let them eat cake" is not working very well.

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33 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

I am fine with social distancing and also wearing masks, but bringing the economy to a stop goes way to far.

This is fine to say in theory but what are the specifics?

 

The economy doesn't stop, currently 80%ish of economic activity is still happening. What do you think should be changed? What economic activity that is currently stopped do you think should be allowed to continue? How much difference would that make? Some of the worst affected industries such as restaurants, bars, travel related stuff... I think they would be in trouble with no government restrictions.

 

it is of course impossible to know but I think it is likely that letting the virus infect (almost) everyone would be much worse for the economy, especially in the medium and long term.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Brunolem said:

Western politicians made the mistake to follow China, forgetting that in China the party micromanages everything. 

 

They should have let the medical authorities handle the problem, while providing assistance when requested. 

 

This reminds me of the cave story last year, which was very well handed, because the cave divers, and not the government, were in charge. 

 

Now we arrive in absurd situations, such as in France where Pr Raoult, the highest authority in the world for this type of disease, is not listened to, because the president is surrounded by people, including doctors, who have spent most of their lives weaseling in politics (like Dr Fauci in the US). 

I knew that soon or later we would disagree on something, it seems to me that the "medical authorities" and the politicians are going in the same direction.

For some reason, i tend to believe the scientists who are going against the mainstream media, but no worries, i'm always been a contrarian 😉

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2 minutes ago, mauGR1 said:

I knew that soon or later we would disagree on something, it seems to me that the "medical authorities" and the politicians are going in the same direction.

 

The doctors who have access to the top politicians are not the top of the crop, and many among the latter disagree with the former (I opened a thread about this last week). 

 

For example, Pr Raoult is against the lock down/stay at home, and recommend the use of chloroquine, which is rejected by the French government and its medical advisors. 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Brunolem said:

Now we arrive in absurd situations, such as in France where Pr Raoult, the highest authority in the world for this type of disease, is not listened to, because the president is surrounded by people, including doctors, who have spent most of their lives weaseling in politics

This seems to be over simplifying things. He had promising results in a very small trial. When the trial was repeated in a more systematic way the results were disappointing. Or are the media lying about this too?

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