Popular Post webfact Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 Acting U.S. Navy secretary resigns after ridiculing commander of coronavirus-hit ship By Idrees Ali and Phil Stewart FILE PHOTO: Acting Secretary of the Navy Thomas Modly, testifies to the Senate Armed Services Committee during a hearing examining military housing on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S., December 3, 2019. REUTERS/Joshua Roberts WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly resigned on Tuesday after he faced mounting backlash for firing and ridiculing the commander of a U.S. aircraft carrier who pleaded for help stemming a coronavirus outbreak onboard. U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper announced Modly's resignation on Twitter, saying the Navy's top civilian had "resigned of his own accord." But the resignation occurred only after mounting pressure from Congress and a backlash from the crew, and followed President Donald Trump's suggestion on Monday that he might get involved in the crisis -- saying the Navy captain whom Modly fired was also a good man. "I briefed President Trump after my conversation with Secretary Modly," Esper said, as he named an Army Undersecretary Jim McPherson to replace Modly as acting Navy secretary. Modly's resignation follows a surprise speech he made on Monday to the crew of the Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier, which leaked publicly, in which he defended his decision to fire their commander, Captain Brett Crozier, and questioned his character, saying at one point he was either "stupid" or "naive." Captain Brett Crozier, commanding officer of the U.S. Navy aircraft carrier USS Theodore Roosevelt, addresses the crew during an all-hands call on the ship’s flight deck in the eastern Pacific Ocean December 19, 2019. Picture taken December 19, 2019. U.S. Navy/Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Nicholas Huynh/Handout via REUTERS Crozier was revered by his crew for writing a four-page letter that leaked publicly calling for stronger action from the Navy to help stem an outbreak of coronavirus infections aboard his ship. Earlier on Tuesday, U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi added her voice to calls for Modly's removal. "Sadly, Acting Secretary Modly's actions and words demonstrate his failure to prioritize the force protection of our troops," Pelosi said in a statement. A fellow Democrat, House Armed Services Committee Chairman Adam Smith, had already called for Modly's removal. Modly apologized on Monday for his remarks about Crozier, but Pelosi and Smith said that was not enough to overcome what they described as his highly inappropriate comments. His apology did little to mollify the crew on the carrier. "He said what he said and nobody is going to forget it," a sailor on the carrier told Reuters. As of Tuesday, 230 of about 5,000 personnel on the Theodore Roosevelt have tested positive for the coronavirus. (Reporting by Idrees Ali, Phil Stewart and Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Cynthia Osterman) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-08 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post candide Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 So after finding out that public opinion supported the ousted Captain, Trump now says he's a good man. Pathetic. "He shouldn't be talking that way': Trump rips ousted Navy captain" https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/04/trump-brett-crozier-letter-165020 12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 A regime of big mouths,a miniscule amount of intelligence and even fewer boundaries. 21 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gk10002000 Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) Well, the man, and I use that term loosely was horrible the way he dressed down the Captain in that speech he made. He himself did more to discredit the service and the DOD more than that ship's Captain could ever have been imagined to. What a small man that probably would have been fragged by day two had he served in the field in Vietnam. Edited April 7, 2020 by gk10002000 17 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gk10002000 Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 Looking things up, the man was a Naval academy grad, helo pilot and did seven years of active duty. Then went into business and offices. Well he just blew his career and I shed no tears. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mfd101 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Lack of judgment. Not qualified for high office. Applies to quite a few people in the so-called American 'administration'. 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Good. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) What a stand up bunch of people you Americans have leading you! The secretary of the navy, in the middle of a pandemic, flies 8000 miles to chastise crewmen and women who are being hit by this virus... you couldn’t make this stuff up. Shows the level of care this administration has for its service people. Looks like trump succeeded in draining the swamp....and replacing it with a open air festering sewerage pond. Edited April 8, 2020 by samran 21 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tug Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 But but trump only has the best people good riddance and let’s hope come November we get rid of the guy who sent him on that fools errand! 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Emdog Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Another "acting" head gone (Navy this time). Anyone else notice how pervasive "acting" secretaries are in this administration? One reason they are "acting" is that true head would require approval by the senate. Though Republican senate seems to kowtow to Trump on nearly everything, they know important to have qualified people in key positions. Trump doesn't consider competence important. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/trump-disloyalty-turnover.html 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post klauskunkel Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 hours ago, webfact said: Acting U.S. Navy secretary resigns after ridiculing commander of coronavirus-hit ship First Law: Only Trump may act like Trump. 4 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nobodysfriend Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, webfact said: and followed President Donald Trump's suggestion on Monday that he might get involved in the crisis -- saying the Navy captain whom Modly fired was also a good man. First they all said that the captain did not act correctly by publishing his letter ( against the rules of the navy ) , and has to be fired . That's what they did . But for the public , the captain became some kind of hero for protecting his sailors . Consequently , Trump made half of a U turn already , and will praise him soon for his courage ...? 3 hours ago, webfact said: Modly apologized on Monday for his remarks about Crozier, but Pelosi and Smith said that was not enough to overcome what they described as his highly inappropriate comments. Modly wanted to please his boss but was not diplomatic enough , now he's out . Edited April 8, 2020 by nobodysfriend 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post samran Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, BobBKK said: The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. No one made this guy fly 8000 miles to act like a clown in front of the crew. Or did some liberals kidnap him and make him do it? 6 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, samran said: No one made this guy fly 8000 miles to act like a clown in front of the crew. Or did some liberals kidnap him and make him do it? It wasn't the wisest decision I was talking about the liberal reaction in their MSM outlets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kamahele Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 22 minutes ago, BobBKK said: The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. There is no evidence that the Captain leaked to the press or even an allegation that he did so. He was relieved of his command because he sent the letter through unsecured means and did not follow the chain of command. Most likely, someone that the email was sent to, leaked it and rightly so. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Just now, kamahele said: There is no evidence that the Captain leaked to the press or even an allegation that he did so. He was relieved of his command because he sent the letter through unsecured means and did not follow the chain of command. Most likely, someone that the email was sent to, leaked it and rightly so. I read he copied it to the press but I can't remember where. Even if you are correct (and I doubt it) you admit he broke the chain of command. Normally his dismissal would raise no eyebrows and it does so for political reasons. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car720 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 40 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: First they all said that the captain did not act correctly by publishing his letter ( against the rules of the navy ) , and has to be fired . That's what they did . But for the public , the captain became some kind of hero for protecting his sailors . Consequently , Trump made half of a U turn already , and will praise him soon for his courage ...? Modly wanted to please his boss but was not diplomatic enough , now he's out . Trump will not take a chance on even one vote now. It might be the only one he gets. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Proboscis Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, BobBKK said: The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. There is no room for trolls like you in this time of the Coronavirus. Please return to your Russian/Chinese/North Korean Troll Farm and stay out of the way while the rest of us are dealing with a global problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, BobBKK said: The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. Allegedly. It's White House claim without any independent confirmation. The basic charge against the Captain was that he released his letter outside his direct chain of command but still within the navy command community - any of whom (read about 20 people) could have leaked the letter to the press. The Captain was not 'fired' for inappropriate comments. That excuse was later added by Trump. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odysseus123 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 1 hour ago, BobBKK said: The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. It must be getting harder and harder... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skytrooper70 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 While the Captain circulated his email/letter, widely, there was no evidence that he, "obviously" leaked it to the press. Still, it could have been anticipated that would happen. On the other hand, the Acting Sec'y should have followed his own description of the Captain, as "naive and stupid," when the Acting Sec'y gave a speech, on deck, "naively and stupidly," not anticipating that it would be on social media, straightaway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dlclark97 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Obviously few of us have the whole story. I would suspect Captain Brozier initially did follow his Chain of Command but received little or even no response as to what was being or could be done. With 5000 Navy personnel on his ship living in close quarters and many testing positive for the COVOD virus I can understand his desperation and why he may have jumped the Chain of Command. It was a desperate move on his part but his concern for his people at the possible expense or his career shows what an honorable man and credit to the Navy that he is. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 An off topic post has been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiekerjozef Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Another turd in a penguin outfit.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 9 hours ago, gk10002000 said: Well, the man, and I use that term loosely was horrible the way he dressed down the Captain in that speech he made. He himself did more to discredit the service and the DOD more than that ship's Captain could ever have been imagined to. What a small man that probably would have been fragged by day two had he served in the field in Vietnam. NO SH*TT!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opl Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 "Battle of the USS Theodore Roosevelt: a Timeline" Starting January 17 https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/04/timeline-battle-uss-theodore-roosevelt/164408/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncc1701d Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I don’t understand why the captain sent out 30 letters to various people. There is a chain of command and procedures to follow if you’re not happy with what’s going on - so 30 letters seems odd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Kudos for Captain Brett Crozier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dap Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 8 hours ago, BobBKK said: The guy leaked his letter to the Press so obviously a political act. All this 'save the Captain' is disingenuous liberal spin as usual. Yeah, past all the bSh*T, never mind he was looking out for his crew more than himself. How do you think you would be seeing this IF YOU were on his ship? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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