Popular Post webfact Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 U.S. deports 400 migrant children under new coronavirus rules By Ted Hesson and Mica Rosenberg FILE PHOTO: A migrant child disembarks a U.S. Border Patrol bus at the processing center and shelter in Deming, New Mexico, U.S. May 27, 2019. Picture taken May 27, 2019. REUTERS/Adria Malcolm/File Photo WASHINGTON/NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. immigration officials have rapidly deported nearly 400 migrant children intercepted at the U.S.-Mexico border in the past two weeks under new rules billed as seeking to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus in the United States, according to government data seen by Reuters. President Donald Trump's administration implemented new border rules on March 21 that scrapped decades-long practices under laws meant to protect children from human trafficking and offer them a chance to seek asylum in a U.S. immigration court. Under the new rules, U.S. officials can quickly remove people without standard immigration proceedings. Overall, U.S. border officials have expelled nearly 7,000 migrants to Mexico since the new procedures took effect, according to the data and a Mexican government official, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Of those, 377 were minors, the data showed. The overall number of 7,000 was first published by ProPublica, but the figure for children deported has not previously been reported. Around 120 of the minors, who arrived at the U.S.-Mexico border without a parent or legal guardian, were quickly sent on planes back to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador, according to data from March 27 to April 2. It was not clear whether the remainder of the children intercepted at the border were pushed back to Mexico or returned to their home countries during the preceding week. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) declined to comment. The agency in the past has said that all people caught crossing illegally, including minors, could be subjected to the new restrictions, which aim to cut the time migrants arrested at the border are held in U.S. custody. Before the pandemic of COVID-19, the potentially lethal respiratory disease caused by the novel coronavirus, unaccompanied minors caught at the border were placed in shelters run by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Children traveling with adults other than parents or legal guardians would also be classified as "unaccompanied" and put into HHS care, even if the adults they were traveling with were family members. Under the new rules, however, they are now called "single minors" and can be sent back to Mexico, according to a CBP official. Trump has made cracking down on immigration a central goal of his administration and, before the global health crisis, the White House had criticized the process for handling unaccompanied minors as a "loophole" that allows the release of migrant children into the United States. Trump said last month that foreigners attempting to enter the country illegally could spread the coronavirus to border agents, other migrants and the U.S. public, a concern that he said justified quickly turning them around without standard legal processes. The current treatment of minors "happens to coincide with a long-term goal of the Trump administration" of quickly removing all migrants apprehended at the border, said Anthony Enriquez, who directs a program for unaccompanied children at Catholic Charities Community Services in New York. Overall, the number of migrants encountered at the border fell dramatically after the implementation of the new border rules - with just 300 people currently in CBP custody, down from nearly 1,400 on March 27, according to the data seen by Reuters. As more children have been denied entry at the border, the number of unaccompanied minors in federal custody has fallen, too. The HHS office charged with caring for unaccompanied minors in the United States said there were roughly 2,800 children in custody on Monday, down from 3,100 five days earlier. As of April 2, five children in HHS care had tested positive for COVID-19 out of 23 who had been tested overall. (Reporting by Ted Hesson in Washington and Mica Rosenberg in New York; Additional reporting by Kristina Cooke in Los Angeles, editing by Ross Colvin and Jonathan Oatis) -- © Copyright Reuters 2020-04-08 Follow Thaivisa on LINE for breaking COVID-19 updates 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cryingdick Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 No mention of the ages. Reuters does knee jerk stories like this all the time. It's people that are nearly 18 years old. If people in NYC can't even leave their houses then I am sorry nobody is coming in. 17 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JimmyTheMook Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Buh Bye. Try Thailands immigration laws if y'all want something to get upset about. Nothing to see here....... 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DoctorG Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Reuters would like you to envisage 400 5 year old kids being pushed back over the border at bayonet-point, probably over a day or two. The usual tug at the heartstrings stuff. The fact that it was 377 over a 3 week period and that if they were unaccompanied they were probably late teens, is not in the headline. 11 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, DoctorG said: Reuters would like you to envisage 400 5 year old kids being pushed back over the border at bayonet-point, probably over a day or two. The usual tug at the heartstrings stuff. The fact that it was 377 over a 3 week period and that if they were unaccompanied they were probably late teens, is not in the headline. If Immi had provided the age range and numbers of the children I am positive Reuters would have published the info. it's the usual attempts at secrecy / misinformation by the trump admin which contributes to conspiracy theories. In the meantime assume the usual members will applaud trump's cruelty to minors. President Donald Trump's administration implemented new border rules on March 21 that scrapped decades-long practices under laws meant to protect children from human trafficking and offer them a chance to seek asylum in a U.S. immigration court. Under the new rules, U.S. officials can quickly remove people without standard immigration proceedings. 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crazy Alex Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 I think they meant to say 400 illegal aliens were deported. 10 2 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rosst Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, simple1 said: If Immi had provided the age range and numbers of the children I am positive Reuters would have published the info. it's the usual attempts at secrecy / misinformation by the trump admin which contributes to conspiracy theories. In the meantime assume the usual members will applaud trump's cruelty to minors. President Donald Trump's administration implemented new border rules on March 21 that scrapped decades-long practices under laws meant to protect children from human trafficking and offer them a chance to seek asylum in a U.S. immigration court. Under the new rules, U.S. officials can quickly remove people without standard immigration proceedings. If I were an American living in America I would agree wholeheartedly with the prompt actions to minimise the risk to the population and not waste resources on illegals. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tifino Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 these seen as 'kids' in US eyes, would be anyone not old enough to drink... these 'kids' are not being dragged along in the typical migrant manner - they are being pushed; in a sort of pretend gameplay of mum and dad 'sacrifice' themselves, so that the 'kid' survives the landlocked equivalent of the scuttling of the boats, so that they 'had' to be rescued - old trick 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jingjai9 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 Regardless of age, people are people and Trump is using immigrants as a target to show his base of supporters how tough he is on this issue. He needs to find a "whipping boy" to excite his people and of course he will choose the most vulnerable who cannot fight back and have very few rights. Many social critics point out that a goodly number of immigrants come to the US to escape violence in their own country and some of the violence can be linked to US foreign policy. There is good and bad in every crowd and immigrants are no exception, but is this what the American people really want? Is Trump the president of all Americans or is it just corporations, disgruntled workers, and fundamentalist Christians? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thomas J Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 hours ago, simple1 said: In the meantime assume the usual members will applaud trump's cruelty to minors. President Donald Trump's administration implemented new border rules on March 21 that scrapped decades-long practices under laws meant to protect children from human trafficking and offer them a chance to seek asylum in a U.S. immigration court. Under the new rules, U.S. officials can quickly remove people without standard immigration proceedings. Simple 1 1. These children would not be exploited by human traffickers if they did not put themselves in jeopardy by trying to enter the USA ILLEGALLY 2. Many of the children are USED several times RENTED by families knowing that they will more likely be admitted to the USA if they are accompanied by small children. 3. Which part of illegal don't you understand. For all of us who live in Thailand you seem to have no problem if someone from Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, or China attempts to enter Thailand illegally and then is deported. The definition of a country is one that has a defined land border, a unique culture, and a shared language. For whatever reason there seems to be this idea that a country has no right to make rules as to who they wish TO INVITE to their country. For all you and I know those deported were teenagers and perhaps even members of the MS13 gang. Lastly, though many in this world live poor lives. It is not written on the two stone tablets brought down by Moses that the USA is required to let in and support ever individual on the face of the earth. The startling fact is that immigrants are much more likely, even legal immigrants to require public welfare. So you are "helping" non citizens of the USA at the expense of the legal citizens. 5 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simple1 Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Thomas J said: Simple 1 1. These children would not be exploited by human traffickers if they did not put themselves in jeopardy by trying to enter the USA ILLEGALLY 2. Many of the children are USED several times RENTED by families knowing that they will more likely be admitted to the USA if they are accompanied by small children. 3. Which part of illegal don't you understand. For all of us who live in Thailand you seem to have no problem if someone from Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, or China attempts to enter Thailand illegally and then is deported. The definition of a country is one that has a defined land border, a unique culture, and a shared language. For whatever reason there seems to be this idea that a country has no right to make rules as to who they wish TO INVITE to their country. For all you and I know those deported were teenagers and perhaps even members of the MS13 gang. Lastly, though many in this world live poor lives. It is not written on the two stone tablets brought down by Moses that the USA is required to let in and support ever individual on the face of the earth. The startling fact is that immigrants are much more likely, even legal immigrants to require public welfare. So you are "helping" non citizens of the USA at the expense of the legal citizens. The examples you provide equate to Human Trafficking. Create a topic posting instances of illegal migration into Thailand & I'll reply with my POV. Never claimed US should support every individual on earth, though one would presume the US would abide by the relevant Conventions it had ratified and signed, which the trump administration has thrown into the dustbin. Even going so far as to reduce it's intake quota of vetted refugees from 100k p.a. to 18k this year. As I recall reading overall migrants, including illegals, are a net positive for the US economy Edited April 8, 2020 by simple1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samran Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 3 hours ago, JimmyTheMook said: Buh Bye. Try Thailands immigration laws if y'all want something to get upset about. Nothing to see here....... I know right? They just should have stuck $25,000 in the bank and stayed there forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Crazy Alex Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 13 hours ago, jingjai9 said: Regardless of age, people are people and Trump is using immigrants as a target to show his base of supporters how tough he is on this issue. He needs to find a "whipping boy" to excite his people and of course he will choose the most vulnerable who cannot fight back and have very few rights. Many social critics point out that a goodly number of immigrants come to the US to escape violence in their own country and some of the violence can be linked to US foreign policy. There is good and bad in every crowd and immigrants are no exception, but is this what the American people really want? Is Trump the president of all Americans or is it just corporations, disgruntled workers, and fundamentalist Christians? Come here legally. That's all we ask. And if you don't come here legally, you are subject to deportation. End of story. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryingdick Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: Come here legally. That's all we ask. And if you don't come here legally, you are subject to deportation. End of story. It's like somebody complaining about the food and service at a restaurant they never intended to pay the bill at. Oh they also potentially have a highly infectious virus that kills your staff. If we kept them it would be back to the old kids in cages outrage. I personally would rather go back then be locked in a detention center with the virus right now. The loss of jobs we are about to endure basically eliminates the flimsy argument that we need more laborers. That it will be some sort of miraculous net benefit to have people willing to undercut all of the Americans on wages who are now unemployed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monomial Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 16 hours ago, jingjai9 said: Regardless of age, people are people and Trump is using immigrants as a target to show his base of supporters how tough he is on this issue. He needs to find a "whipping boy" to excite his people and of course he will choose the most vulnerable who cannot fight back and have very few rights. But that is what demagogues do. The more Trump does this, the more successful he will be. It is the nature of the political situation we are in right now. The ancient Greeks understood this when they coined the term. And the kicker is, the only way to beat him democratically, is for his opponent to divide America along a more important issue. I think Bernie could have done this by demonizing bankers and financiers. There is a lot more hatred out there for those types than for immigrants. But no. The Democrats decided to nominate Biden, aka Hillary 2.0. So now it is going to be 4 more years of Trump. It isn't right, but it is reality. I wish people would wake up and see this. And it is the poor and the powerless who will pay the price for all the ivory tower liberals who think the world should stay the way they demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Alex Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 17 minutes ago, Monomial said: But that is what demagogues do. The more Trump does this, the more successful he will be. It is the nature of the political situation we are in right now. The ancient Greeks understood this when they coined the term. And the kicker is, the only way to beat him democratically, is for his opponent to divide America along a more important issue. I think Bernie could have done this by demonizing bankers and financiers. There is a lot more hatred out there for those types than for immigrants. But no. The Democrats decided to nominate Biden, aka Hillary 2.0. So now it is going to be 4 more years of Trump. It isn't right, but it is reality. I wish people would wake up and see this. And it is the poor and the powerless who will pay the price for all the ivory tower liberals who think the world should stay the way they demand. I don't know. I'm conflicted. On the surface, it appears Biden skates to the nomination. But then I think there's no way the DNC risks letting him lose this race. On the other hand, if they are to intervene and replace Biden, it could really <deleted> people off and end up with lots of Democrats either voting Trump (a small number there) or staying home (a larger number). The fact remains it is very difficult to unseat an incumbent president. It's only happened once in the past 40 years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post timendres Posted April 8, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 8, 2020 18 hours ago, jingjai9 said: There is good and bad in every crowd and immigrants are no exception, but is this what the American people really want? Is Trump the president of all Americans or is it just corporations, disgruntled workers, and fundamentalist Christians? I am more than happy to let them in, if they can stay at your place. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timendres Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said: I don't know. I'm conflicted. On the surface, it appears Biden skates to the nomination. But then I think there's no way the DNC risks letting him lose this race. On the other hand, if they are to intervene and replace Biden, it could really <deleted> people off and end up with lots of Democrats either voting Trump (a small number there) or staying home (a larger number). The fact remains it is very difficult to unseat an incumbent president. It's only happened once in the past 40 years. If the Democrats could have produced a strong candidate, that candidate would have walked all over Trump. Neither party has produced a strong presidential candidate in decades. The people need to wake up and get more involved in the process, or we will continue to get these poor choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thaibeachlovers Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 7 hours ago, Crazy Alex said: Come here legally. That's all we ask. And if you don't come here legally, you are subject to deportation. End of story. Speaking as one that had to spend large amounts of money and go to lengths to comply with legal residence in LOS I have no sympathy for those that seek to live illegally in another country. If one's own country is such a <deleted><deleted> that one does not wish to live there, either apply for refugee status and join the q, or do something about your own country. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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